Shaq is a Cavalier

[Thunder Dan]

Did 82game.com suggest trading Wally for Jefferson this summer?

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[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Did 82games say Anthony Randolph has reached his potential at age 19?

[Allanon]

Did 82game.com suggest trading Wally for Jefferson this summer?

Not at all. 82 Games suggests that LeBron played ALOT more games at the 4 position than just 2 games you said.

Do you admit you were wrong about LeBron playing only 2 games at Power Forward?

[Muser]

So does this move put the Cavs over the top? That was the weakness in the playoffs vs the Magic. No big man capable of countering Superman.

Now you have the original Superman vs the New Superman

It depends what the rest of the east can pull, if the Magic can get a real 4 and move Lewis to the 3 then they're going to be beasty.

Also you have to take into account that Howard will only be getting better, whereas Shaq is on the decline.

[JamStone]

LeBron does play some power forward, in small ball line-ups and against teams that feature those types of line-ups (a combo forward or converted small forward at the PF position) like Orlando or the old Phoenix teams. That doesn't make him a power forward. And it's important to note that while LeBron did play some minutes at PF, not one game in the playoffs did he start at PF, not one regular season game did LeBron start at PF. Darnell Jackson and Lorenzen Wright even started games for the Cavs so LeBron wouldn't start at PF.

Most teams in the NBA now employ small ball line-ups. So, it's good to do the same to match up. But, against the best teams in the league, you don't want LeBron playing PF and having to defend the post against guys like KG or Gasol or Duncan. LeBron is big and strong and athletic, but he doesn't match-up well defensively against the best power forwards in the league and most of the great teams in the league employ a traditional line-up with a true PF and a true C, even if they also use small ball line-ups.

LeBron and Richard Jefferson would be useful against a team like the Orlando Magic last year. But, once they match up against Boston or the Lakers, what do they do?

[Thunder Dan]

Not at all. 82 Games suggests that LeBron played ALOT more games at the 4 position than just 2 games you said.

Do you admit you were wrong about LeBron playing only 2 games at Power Forward?

this applies

[Allanon]

LeBron does play some power forward, in small ball line-ups and against teams that feature those types of line-ups (a combo forward or converted small forward at the PF position) like Orlando or the old Phoenix teams. That doesn't make him a power forward.

I asked a simple question "Doesn't LeBron play Power Forward for the Cavs?" The answer was yes, in "only 2 games verus the Magic"
http://www.82games.com/0809/0809CLE2.HTM

Alot of Small Ball in the East. LeBron with RJ would work.

But the point is the Cavs could have gotten alot more with $20 million than just Shaq. Spurs got Richard Jefferson for trash and only spent $13 million in salary.

[Thunder Dan]

I asked a simple question "Doesn't LeBron play Power Forward for the Cavs?" The answer was yes, in only 2 games.

Alot of Small Ball in the East. LeBron with RJ would work.

But the point is the Cavs could have gotten alot more with $20 million than just Shaq.

it's not a longer term solution to have Lebron playing PF

[Allanon]

this applies

You know, you're disappointing like your boy Dirk4MVP. You'd rather be stupid than admit you're wrong. People thought you were just a troll but I didn't...now I see why they said it.

Enjoy talking with yourself.

[Muser]

So if the Cavs trade for Jefferson and Gordon they have.

Mo
Gordon
Jefferson
James
Z?

That team would get skull ed by any team with decent bigs.

[Thunder Dan]

You know, you're disappointing like your boy Dirk4MVP. You'd rather be stupid than admit you're wrong. People thought you were just a troll but I didn't...now I see why they said it.

Enjoy talking with yourself.

Admit I'm wrong? I watched every minute of every Cavs game and Wally was the PF for a bunch of games, and Lebron was not. Even the other Cavs fan on here agrees with me. Your website is wrong man, I'm sorry to break it to you but sometimes the internet is not always right

[bostonguy]

Great move for the Cavs. I dont see how you can say how this is a bad move for them. They got shaq for nothing. Worse case if Shaq cant stay healthy, his contract ends this summer. Shaq isnt done yet. Now if they can get another guard and move West to backup role, they will be set to join the elite class.

[JamStone]

I asked a simple question "Doesn't LeBron play Power Forward for the Cavs?" The answer was yes, in "only 2 games verus the Magic"
http://www.82games.com/0809/0809CLE2.HTM

Alot of Small Ball in the East. LeBron with RJ would work.

But the point is the Cavs could have gotten alot more with $20 million than just Shaq.

Your question was based on your suggestion that the Cavs could have gotten Richard Jefferson. The way you barked back insults to make your point is the reason why people started flaming you. It's true LeBron has played minutes at PF. That is not enough to support a suggestion that Richard Jefferson would have been a better trade for the Cavaliers, especially since LeBron's best and most natural position is small forward, as it is for RJ.

LeBron and RJ doesn't make them more of a le contender than LeBron and Shaq. RJ might be the better player than Shaq at this point in their respective careers, but he wouldn't solve the Cavs problems either. They would still need help in the front court to match-up against KG and Dwight Howard. The best teams in the league have true centers and elite PFs.

Your point is still predicated on conjecture and an argument you cannot prove.

[Allanon]

So if the Cavs trade for Jefferson and Gordon they have.

Mo
Gordon
Jefferson
James
Z?

That team would get skull ed by any team with decent bigs.

That team with the Decent Bigs would be the Lakers and the Magic and the Celtics. And the Cavs are still skull ed against the Lakers and Magic and Celtics with this Shaq trade.

[TampaDude]

I don't know about y'all, but IMHO this takes the Cavs up a BIG notch in the East.

[bostonguy]

I don't know about y'all, but IMHO this takes the Cavs up a BIG notch in the East.

You are a master jinxer Tampa. Any team you hype up is cursed.

[Allanon]

Your question was based on your suggestion that the Cavs could have gotten Richard Jefferson. The way you barked back insults to make your point is the reason why people started flaming you.

Where did I start barking back insults to make my point? I was flamed prior to my making ANY insults, you should know that by now. If you want to act like an asshole, I'll always go along with it, but I don't start it. Never have.

LeBron and RJ doesn't make them more of a le contender than LeBron and Shaq. RJ might be the better player than Shaq at this point in their respective careers, but he wouldn't solve the Cavs problems either. They would still need help in the front court to match-up against KG and Dwight Howard. The best teams in the league have true centers and elite PFs.

That's right RJ wouldn't have made them more of a contender. But the Cavs would have had $7 million left to make another trade for a quality player.

[Chief]

yeah shaq´s slow, im´not sure if ben wallace was equivilent to the speed of sound either, lol

[TampaDude]

You are a master jinxer Tampa. Any team you hype up is cursed.

It's a gift...I know...

[LakeShow]

Shaq will have to take back the "Kobe is better than Lebron" statement.

Good move by Cleveland.

[ElNono]

they have one of the highest payrolls in the league, well over the cap. Ben Wallace was taking on a bad contract like you said the Knicks would do. Try again, this is fun

Not by 2010...
New York Knicks have $18 million in the books for 2010.
Cleveland is in the books for $36 million in 2010.

[Spur-Addict]

LMAO, Wally isn't even under contract anymore

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[JamStone]

Where did I start barking back insults to make my point? I was flamed prior to my making ANY insults, you should know that by now. If you want to act like an asshole, I'll always go along with it, but I don't start it. Never have.

I'm not one of the people who flamed you so slow your role. I answered your question without flaming. I'm just saying the way you come across often invites the responses you get.

That's right RJ wouldn't have made them more of a contender. But the Cavs would have had $7 million left to make another trade for a quality player.

Again, you make a suggestion that cannot be supported. Who were the Cavs going to get by trading Sasha Pavlovic's $4.9 million salary? Would it really have been a quality player? Are there teams desperately waiting in line to try to help out the Cavaliers keep LeBron James? Please let me know.

[Allanon]

Admit I'm wrong? I watched every minute of every Cavs game and Wally was the PF for a bunch of games, and Lebron was not. Even the other Cavs fan on here agrees with me. Your website is wrong man, I'm sorry to break it to you but sometimes the internet is not always right

So you are saying 82 Games and ESPN are wrong and you are right. That's all I wanted to know.

for 2 games vs the Magic

not counting the Olympics the only time he has play more than a couple minutes here and there as a PF was 2 games vs the Magic, yes.

ESPN: "seven of the Cavs' most-used lineups feature LBJ at the 4"

http://www.82games.com/0809/0809CLE2.HTM