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yes, radiation from those "tests" made it's way to the food supply and tap water 100 miles away
It made it further, actually. Don't be such a ing moron.
Of course. Do you only close the barn door when the horse is already loose?
yes, radiation from those "tests" made it's way to the food supply and tap water 100 miles away
It made it further, actually. Don't be such a ing moron.
manny was probably referring to the above ground tests, and yes that would throw radiation for a pretty long distance.yes, radiation from those "tests" made it's way to the food supply and tap water 100 miles away
(edit after noticing the post before this)
I guess he was.
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Cool chart!
re-read the articles posted and come back.
LOL comparing Bikini island food production to Japans
It made it further, actually. Don't be such a ing moron.
LOL wikipedia hand drawn chart
Jesus Christ the stupid is strong with people lately. Must be all the radiation.
Grrr.....Radiation Dose Chart
"This is a chart of the ionizing radiation dose a person can absorb from various sources. The unit for absorbed dose is "sievert"(Sv), and measures the effect a dose of radiation will have on the cells of the body....."
It raises the hair on my neck when colleagues don't get these concepts straight. Then we wonder why the public is so confused about these topics....
For the record, the units for radiation absorbed dose are rads or gray (Gy).
Sieverts or rem (roentgen equivalent in man) refers to radiation exposure or equivalent dose.
Mathematically, the relationships in this chart are accurate assuming one is considering only the dose from gammas, x-rays or betas (ie 1Gy = 1Sv and 1 rad = 1 rem). Conceptually they are quite different however. Exposure refers to the amount of incident radiation on an object and gives an approximation of biologic effect. Dose refers to the amount of that radiation which is absorbed and producing ionizations (measured in joules per kilogram). They depend on various factors such as the type of incoming radiation (gammas, alphas, beta, neutrons, protons, etc. ), density, and effective atomic number of the substance (Z) among others. So one could think of sieverts as the dose of a given type of radiation (as measured in Gy) that has the same biologic effect on a human as 1Gy of x-rays or gammas.
Lazy scientists don't help the situation at all.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ll-people.html
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people
The boss of the company behind the devastated Japanese nuclear reactor today broke down in tears - as his country finally acknowledged the radiation spewing from the over-heating reactors and fuel rods was enough to kill some citizens.
Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency admitted that the disaster was a level 5, which is classified as a crisis causing 'several radiation deaths' by the UN International Atomic Energy.
Officials said the rating was raised after they realised the full extent of the radiation leaking from the plant. They also said that 3 per cent of the fuel in three of the reactors at the Fukushima plant had been severely damaged, suggesting those reactor cores have partially melted down.
After Tokyo Electric Power Company Managing Director Akio Komiri cried as he left a conference to brief journalists on the situation at Fukushima, a senior Japanese minister also admitted that the country was overwhelmed by the scale of the tsunami and nuclear crisis.
He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: 'The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.
'In hindsight, we could have moved a little quicker in assessing the situation and coordinating all that information and provided it faster.'
Nuclear experts have been saying for days that Japan was underplaying the crisis' severity.
It is now officially on a par with the Three Mile Island accident in Pennsylvania in 1979. Only the explosion at Chernobyl in 1986 has topped the scale.
Deputy director general of the NISA, Hideohiko Nishiyama, also admitted that they do not know if the reactors are coming under control.
He said: 'With the water-spraying operations, we are fighting a fire we cannot see. That fire is not spreading, but we cannot say yet that it is under control.'
But prime minister Naoto Kan insisted that his country would overcome the catastrophe
'We will rebuild Japan from scratch,' he said in a televised speech: 'In our history, this small island nation has made miraculous economic growth thanks to the efforts of all Japanese citizens. That is how Japan was built.'
It comes after pictures emerged showing overheating fuel rods exposed to the elements through a huge hole in the wall of a reactor building at the destroyed Fukushima nuclear plant.
Haha... American news is such .
9000+ dead and 13000 still missing from earthquake + tsunami.
Number of dead from nuclear crisis: ?
Cost of nuclear crisis in the USSR following Chernobyl:
$200,000,000,000 and up to 200,000 dead because they didn't take proper safety precautions to make sure that the core didn't meltdown.
So, yeah, a nuclear crisis is not something you want to around with. A body already drowned by a tsunami or crushed by an earthquake doesn't mind waiting when there are living people depending on you to mitigate a third potential disaster.
What about this is not clear to you, DarrinS?
Where did you get that 200,000 figure from? Greenpeace?
Oh, by the way, this is nothing even remotely close to Chernobyl. What part of that don't YOU understand?
Why is Darrin complaining that not enough people have died from these ongoing nuclear situations?
Ah, so because it's not a level 7 incident, it should be ignored. Faultless logic.
Agreed. I think at some point earlier I said the type of radiation matters.
C'mon people, get a freakin' grip on the magnitude of this incident...
Why Fukushima made me stop worrying and love nuclear power
There's an old lefty with whom I agree. Not only is Fukushima not a disaster, I think the incident there has proven nuclear power's safety measures, quite nicely.You will not be surprised to hear that the events in Japan have changed my view of nuclear power. You will be surprised to hear how they have changed it. As a result of the disaster at Fukushima, I am no longer nuclear-neutral. I now support the technology.
A crappy old plant with inadequate safety features was hit by a monster earthquake and a vast tsunami. The electricity supply failed, knocking out the cooling system. The reactors began to explode and melt down. The disaster exposed a familiar legacy of poor design and corner-cutting. Yet, as far as we know, no one has yet received a lethal dose of radiation.
Here's an interesting visual that maybe, just maybe, some of you can use to stop the quivers:
Great article.
Some greens have wildly exaggerated the dangers of radioactive pollution. For a clearer view, look at the graphic published by xkcd.com. It shows that the average total dose from the Three Mile Island disaster for someone living within 10 miles of the plant was one 625th of the maximum yearly amount permitted for US radiation workers. This, in turn, is half of the lowest one-year dose clearly linked to an increased cancer risk, which, in its turn, is one 80th of an invariably fatal exposure. I'm not proposing complacency here. I am proposing perspective.
Totally agree.
The only problem with that chart is the one that they explicitly mention above it; it doesn't take into account the time taken to absorb the dose.
South Africa?
Cool crash test video.
Japan Radiation Plume heading for North America. Daily Projections and Trajectories indicate March 23rd as Fallout Day!
A group of atmospheric scientists from the University of Maryland are currently using a very sophisticated tool to help them examine atmospheric patterns originating from Japan. They have been using the tool for quite some time, enabling them to make simplified projected models of atmospheric transportation and trajectory system on daily basis. What have they discovered from their projections and trajectories? Read on to find out.
Japan Radiation Plume heading for North America. Daily Projections and Trajectories indicate March 23rd as Nuclear Fallout Day
The tool they were using was originally developed by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). It is called HYSPLIT or better known as the Hybrid Single Particle Lagrangian Integrated Trajectory Model. I won’t go into the technical details but you can follow the link that I have provided earlier to get a better picture on the methods used to create those atmospheric transportation projection and trajectory models.
I’m more interested in their latest projection data. According to their latest data, Japan radiation plume suspended somewhere in the 3-km al ude will reach North America on March 23rd! Radiation plumes suspended in the 3.5 to 5-km al udes will hit North America the next day! Oh boy! You can get more information from the following screenshot. Take a look.
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