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    Saw this tweet at the corner of my eye and thought it was Woj confirming a trade for Ariza, lol

    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
    Washington forward Trevor Ariza -- a free agent next summer -- has signed with agent Rob Pelinka of Landmark Sports, league source tells Y!


    Well one thing to keep in mind is that when it was announced that Ellis signed with a new agent, a few hours later he signed with the Mavs. So we will see...

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    It's too bad NDC has destroyed his trade value by sucking so hard.

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    Good ole off-season at ST

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    According to his instagram...he posted a picture of him looking depressed, and the caption was something like..." a lot on my mind right now". Maybe he got the news that no one wants him, and that he's gonna have to ride the bench another year with us.....
    I think that was about the Trayvon Martin case and verdict.

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    One "Washington Wizards writer" thinks that Seraphin may be the player that is involved in the possible S/T.

    http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2013/0...evin-seraphin/

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    One "Washington Wizards writer" thinks that Seraphin may be the player that is involved in the possible S/T.

    http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2013/0...evin-seraphin/
    Interesting..

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    15 pages thread... we aren't gonna do a S&T with Washington
    The AK thread that speculated no deal reached like 25 pages before he signed with Brooklyn.

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    i hope its for seraphin. i wouldnt mind singleton or vesely. ariza wouldnt be horrible. but id rather see them aquire somebody who can play small ball big.

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    Please find a way to include decolo in the trade.

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    That's what player development people do, genius. Sean has a roster to fill with scrubs in November.

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    If Spurs get Seraphin thatd be amazing...

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    Hyperbole fail. Ariza isn't their best player. He isn't even their best SF. He's third string, and making almost $8M.
    truth bomb

    Well he's got an agent so I've got my fingers crossed.

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    Having a bad contract now doesn't mean that it was always a bad contract. He is overpaid, because he's not as productive as it looked like he was going to be. If he were as good as everyone thought he'd become, then he'd have a fair deal. But the Rockets paid for potential, and it didn't pan out. Happens with most bad contracts. The fact that you fail to understand how trade value works explains our impasse pretty succinctly.
    Stop with the dramatization already. Nobody expected him to be a world beater. Houston signed him because of youth, potential and his production in LAL. It was a contract year for Ariza and Houston took a gamble and it didn't pay off like they had hoped. However, he was hardly. Bust. He's only had one real consistently good year, that being in LA, for his career. If you had higher expectations, then that's on you but nobody thought much of him when he entered the league and most people in the know were shocked that Houston offered up that kind of money to a glorified role player.. Heck, he was traded 4 times before landing his deal with the Rockets which should hep to clue you in to the type of player he was.

    How many contenders really have $7 Million in expiring deals lying around that need a small-forward?
    Not San Antonio.
    And you should remember your own posts correctly. You said the Spurs getting him was a pipe-dream because they didn't have the assets for him. They have the first-round pick that's going to be the best possible offer Washington gets unless a team has to pay them to absorb some longer-term salary.
    Salaries have to match and a future draft pick counts as $0 dollars. I'm also inclined to think the Spurs are more apt to keep their futures with rebuilding right around the corner unless some organization offers them up a deal they can't refuse. Any deal involving Ariza would almost certainly have to include Bonner, and like I said before, Bonner is untradeable.

    And I read the OP where it said the Wizards want Blair and would like to shed salary or at least not have to pay much more, and I read the later articles that said they're looking for a stretch-four. It seems then that they would be interested in Bonner, whom (much to my chagrin) the Spurs have not officially tried to trade. The closest they've come is speculation that he was part of the Kirilenko attempted trade. But we don't know if they tried to trade another group of players for even Diaw. More importantly, Bonner's an expiring contract, which is worth as much as Ariza is if they let either one go to free agency.
    Then you missed Wojo's tweet about how it's unclear whether the Spurs are interested in anything Washington has to offer. Furthermore, the majority of teams in the league could use a stretch four but that doesn't mean they need/want Bonner. It's not a coincidence that Bonner's minutes have plummeted in each of the last three seasons. If you open your eyes, you'd see what the rest of the league sees and have realized for quite some time, he isn't very good at his job. And if he were, the Spurs wouldn't need to pursue players like Baynes and Pendergragh as rotational replacements. Bonner is playing out his final season as a Spur. If the Spurs do manage to find a suitable trade partner, it will most likely be at the trade deadline when teams only have to pay a portion of his 4M owed.
    You don't like Blair, and I don't either. But the Wizards do. And if they can get him and a player who plays a position of need and who's on an expiring deal for a player on an inflated salary who doesn't project to be in the rotation, it's a good deal, your views of Ariza's "value" notwithstanding.
    I like Blair but thinks he's a ticking time bomb. It's only speculation as too how much interest the Wizards actually have and what they're willing to offer up so we'll have to wait and see. But what I can tell you is that from every article I've read, none of them had Washington interested in Bonner. While I may sell a little high on Ariza as a role player and a backup to Kawhi, the value you're placing on Bonner is flat out laughable.

    .... Now back to my vacation.

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    The whole of your post is just flat-out dumb, but this part takes the cake:

    How many contenders really have $7 Million in expiring deals lying around that need a small-forward?
    The Spurs certainly do have that $7 Million in expirings. They can certainly offer those and a first for Ariza, which is the best that any team will do at the deadline. Unless you're insinuating that the Spurs aren't a contender, it's incredibly clear that you fundamentally don't understand any of this. You just want to argue. No wonder people say you haven't had a good take on this board.

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    So the Wizards need to do a S&T or they can just sign him??

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    they are very close to the tax

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    So the Wizards need to do a S&T or they can just sign him??
    Yep. Booker and Ariza are the names being tossed around right now, but the Spurs don't want Booker.

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    So the Wizards need to do a S&T or they can just sign him??
    To a minimum deal, yeah. They'd have to use a S&T to give him anything more, though.

    Maybe De Colo's good game gave some team the confidence they needed to work out a trade.

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    That would be funny. "Nando, you can't play in SL because you have just been traded".

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    So we are possibly looking at sending Blair and Nando to the wizards?

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    I just don't know - doesn't it seem likely Blair will get only a min offer? Despite his production/advanced numbers warranting more, he has a lot of flaws and injury risks (although, nothing to date suggests any actual injury risks).

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    they are 2 million from tax

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    I just don't know - doesn't it seem likely Blair will get only a min offer? Despite his production/advanced numbers warranting more, he has a lot of flaws and injury risks (although, nothing to date suggests any actual injury risks).
    I think he'll get more than that, but not by much. If a S&T happened, I'd think Blair's deal would be something like $9M/3 with the last two years completely non-guaranteed.

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    If they were going offer him a min. deal, he would probably be a Wiz already.

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