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You re . He tells them, and you, a parable to VEIL THE TRUTH.
This testimony is true about you.... "I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?" - John 3:12
You re . He tells them, and you, a parable to VEIL THE TRUTH.
Says you.
But hey, you making up your own Bible philosophy is nothing new. It's been around since Bible times.
See what I mean?
This idiot is truly delusional.
He is probably a sociopath too who believes his own lies and delusions of grandeur.
Plus he is too busy condemning all of us to really see the true message of Jesus Christ, love and forgiveness.
Well, I forgive you your ignorance skull.
why would he come to earth to veil the truth?
Ask Him. He tells you why in the verses I quoted.
No, I am quoting Christ. References to the veiling of scripture are ALL OVER THE PLACE You just don't want to believe it. The old wine is good enough.
"All this I have spoken to you in veiled language. The time is coming when I shall no longer speak to you in veiled language, but will tell you about the Father in plain words." - John 16:25
Last edited by Skull-1; 09-15-2013 at 07:56 PM.
Epic fail on your part, skull. Admit it, you lost big time.
Read the words. Veiled. Parable. Perceive. These are consistent.
But they did not understand His meaning: it was veiled from them that they might not perceive it, and they were afraid to ask Him about it. - Luke 9:45
Veiled. Parable. It is the same thing. Idiots.
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3So if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are dying (perishing, being destroyed). - 2 Cor 4:3
Spiritual concept here.
You keep trying and failing miserably to turn my own words against me.
Give up skull, you lost a long long time ago.
You should repent all the foul things you've said about me, about Pop, about Manu, about San Antonio and the best Mexican food in the world, and about God, .... Also about all these others you maliciously malign.
LOL!
Thanks for finally once and for all in conceding defeat, that you were totally owned.
No matter what you post from now on, and if you post anything else, it is an admission that you have been wrong all along.
And that your whole entire life up to this point in time has been a complete waste.
This is the final word on this subject.
Goodbye and good riddance.
nah, there's no actual veil. It's just a parable.
Skull-1 is a terrible poster.
LOL at religion.
You are grasping at straws with your mysticism.
1 Timothy 2:3-4
King James Version (KJV)
3*For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4*Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Because Jesus came down to veil the good news!
It doesn't say *when* they are saved you twit. I already referenced that verse to refute eternal , so let's not act like you discovered something I didn't already know.
"But the natural man does not receive/understand/perceive/accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him; and he cannot know....CANNOT KNOW.....cannot know...CANNOT KNOW them because they are spiritually discerned..." - 1 Cor 2:14
Blake, you are overmatched. Give it up. The Good News is consistently referred to as a mystery. As veiled. Parables abound. Jesus Himself tells you it is veiled. Go argue with HIM and tell HIM how wrong He is and how right YOU are. I am sure He will get a good laugh.
When Paul says WE and YOU it doesn't mean everyone--it only refers to those to whom it applies, as defined by scripture...
"--(A)nd the scripture cannot be broken--" -John 10:35
You, sir, are not one of the WE or YOU Paul speaks of. You're a THEY or THEM, a mocker. A fool.
http://biblez.com/searchverse.php?q=Mystery
A few of these don't directly apply but I am growing weary of wasting my time on imbeciles so I am not going to edit them out. I also am not endorsing the version listed. The NIV sucks and is usually the default on that site. I did not check. Disclaimers included, the point is made regardless.
Bible Search Results 1 - 38 of about 38 for Mystery. Search took 0.02 seconds.
Mark 4:11 He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been ...
... And He was saying to them, "To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom
of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables ...
//bible.cc/mark/4-11.htm - 18k
Luke 8:10 He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of ...
... To whom he said: To you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but
to the rest in parables, that seeing they may not see, and hearing may not ...
//bible.cc/luke/8-10.htm - 19k
Luke 18:34 The disciples did not understand any of this. Its ...
... What he said was a mystery to them, and they didn't know what he meant. ... The words
were a mystery to them, nor could they see what He meant. ...
//bible.cc/luke/18-34.htm - 18k
Romans 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery ...
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that
you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the ...
//bible.cc/romans/11-25.htm - 20k
Romans 16:25 Now to him who is able to establish you in accordance ...
... who is able to establish you in accordance with my gospel, the message I proclaim
about Jesus Christ, in keeping with the revelation of the mystery hidden for ...
//bible.cc/romans/16-25.htm - 20k
1 Corinthians 2:1 And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. ...
... Brothers and sisters, when I came to you, I didn't speak about God's mystery
as if it were some kind of brilliant message or wisdom. ...
//bible.cc/1_corinthians/2-1.htm - 19k
1 Corinthians 2:7 No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has ...
No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and
that God destined for our glory before time began. ...
//bible.cc/1_corinthians/2-7.htm - 19k
1 Corinthians 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all ...
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be
changed ... Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep ...
//bible.cc/1_corinthians/15-51.htm - 18k
Ephesians 1:9 he made known to us the mystery of his will ...
he made known to us the mystery of his will according to
his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/1-9.htm - 18k
Ephesians 3:3 that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation ...
that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly. ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/3-3.htm - 18k
Ephesians 3:4 In reading this, then, you will be able to ...
In reading this, then, you will be able to understand
my insight into the mystery of Christ ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/3-4.htm - 18k
Ephesians 3:5 which was not made known to people in other ...
... In the past, this mystery was not known by people as it is now. ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/3-5.htm - 18k
Ephesians 3:6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles ...
This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel,
members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/3-6.htm - 19k
Ephesians 3:9 and to make plain to everyone the administration of ...
and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for
ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things. ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/3-9.htm - 19k
Ephesians 5:32 This is a profound mystery--but I am talking about ...
This is a profound mystery--but I am talking about Christ and the church. ... This mystery
is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/5-32.htm - 17k
Ephesians 6:19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may ...
Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that
I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel ...
//bible.cc/ephesians/6-19.htm - 18k
Colossians 1:26 the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and ...
the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations,
but is now disclosed to the Lord's people. ...
//bible.cc/colossians/1-26.htm - 18k
Colossians 1:27 To them God has chosen to make known among the ...
To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches
of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. ...
//bible.cc/colossians/1-27.htm - 19k
Colossians 2:2 My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and ...
... may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches
of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God ...
//bible.cc/colossians/2-2.htm - 20k
Colossians 4:3 And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for ...
And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for our message, so that we
may proclaim the mystery of Christ, for which I am in chains. ...
//bible.cc/colossians/4-3.htm - 19k
Colossians 4:4 Pray that I may proclaim it clearly, as I should.
... Pray that I may make this mystery as clear as possible. ...
//bible.cc/colossians/4-4.htm - 17k
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already ...
... For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now ... The mystery
of this sin is already at work. But it cannot work ...
//bible.cc/2_thessalonians/2-7.htm - 19k
1 Timothy 3:9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith ...
... They must be committed to the mystery of the faith now revealed
and must live with a clear conscience. ...
//bible.cc/1_timothy/3-9.htm - 17k
1 Timothy 3:16 Beyond all question, the mystery from which true ...
Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He
appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was ...
//bible.cc/1_timothy/3-16.htm
Then you can search veiled.
Then try hidden, concealed, secret, symbolic, etc..
Parable. Veiled. Hidden. It lays it out there for you. What tiny little bit of knowledge YOU, Blake, THINK you have has been snatched away.
Only a very very few find the truth in this life. To the rest it is hidden. Veiled. The good must contend against something. Someone has to oppress the elect if the elect are to be like their Teacher.
This stuff is way over your head. Keep up with the arrogant rejection of the revelation you are being offered. You will then be assured to learn NOTHING.
Last edited by Skull-1; 09-18-2013 at 09:18 PM.
A parable IS a veil moron.
Let's look it up.
Nothing about a veil. Quite the opposite, actually.A parable is a short tale that illustrates universal*truth, one of the simplest of*narratives. It sketches a setting, describes an*action, and shows the*results. It often involves a character facing a*moral*dilemma, or making a questionable*decision*and then suffering the*consequences. Though the meaning of a parable is often not explicitly stated, the meaning is not usually intended to be hidden or secret but on the contrary quite straightforward and obvious.[6]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable
Looks like you are overmatched by wikipedia.
I ALREADY LOOKED IT UP: IN THE BIBLE. JESUS is the authority on what parables are, not Wikipedia.
Hey! You there! o?!?!! Listen carefully......... Jesus defines what a parable is in the many verses I quoted. He spoke in parables to veil the truth so they (YOU!) WOULD NOT....WOULD NOT....WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND / SEE / PERCEIVE.
Are you stupid?
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PARABLE IN THE BIBLE THAT YOU, BLAKE, CAN EXPLAIN. NOT ONE. (Even the ones I have dropped hints about you do not grasp. And full disclosure: many are still veiled to me, so in that regard you're not alone.)
I will take Jesus over Wikipedia. LMAO at anyone who cites Wikipedia as an authority on scripture.
Go back and read the scriptures again. And again. And again. Very slowly.
"I speak to them in parables so they WILL NOT understand."
Will not.
If understanding by the many was His goal then He would not have spoken in a parable designed explicitly to veil the truth to them.
Last edited by Skull-1; 09-19-2013 at 11:16 AM. Reason: Spacing
So he wants all men to be saved, but he veils the truth to all except for a select few.
Your Jesus doesn't seem to want to save all men very badly.
I am not going to parlay with you much longer.
NARROW IS THE WAY....AND FEW....FEW....FEW.....THERE BE THAT FIND IT. FEW.
I can't explain why the rules are as written, I just know what they are.
Saving all is on His timetable. You put temporal limits on salvation that do not exist. If God chooses to save us after we die then that's His prerogative. It will be far more pleasant to be saved in this life, but I see no scriptural requirement for it to be so.
The truth is veiled for God's purposes, one of which is to show mercy on the evil people.....eventually. I wouldn't want to suffer the recompense that will precede it, however.
Blake, his jesus isn't the real Christ. He follows the antichrist.
You can tell by his twisting of the Word to fit his tiny narrow self righteous conception of reality.
Tiny minds like his have no choice but to rebel against the Truth.
There are man...many...MANY...MANYempty talkers and deceivers...WHO MUST BE SILENCED, for they are upsetting whole families by teaching things they should not teach for sordid gain. - Paul the Apostle through Direct revelation.
Many. Like evangelist preachers, catholic priests, and braindead christians who don't understand the gospel they profess to follow.
I don't make a penny off my teaching. I offer it for free to all. And I am one of a very few. I also do not break apart families preaching remarriage heresies...
The way is narrow. The keys to the Kingdom are the veiled mysteries that most everyone sails right past.
Again, if you cannot perceive the VISIBLE THINGS you will never grasp the spiritual things.
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