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  1. #451
    when was the last time anybody did that?

    Peyton Manning is the best QB right now and he only had 1 TD when he played an elite D. i'm not calling cam a top 5 qb or anything. i'm not a fan of his at all. but he had a great game and people such as yourself are still not giving him props. imo he proved tonight that its not "just defense and run game" considering their ground game outside of Cam was
    Call me when cam does this against a good defense that isn't depleted like New Englands than we'll talk if he can shed the gamemanager tag.

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    Easily? What exactly is easy about plowing through a MLB and DB to even try to get an attempt to get in a catchable position?
    i didn't say it would be a easy catch he could easily have cut to it. They interfered with his attempt to catch it, which is why the flag was thrown

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    Call me when cam does this against a good defense that isn't depleted like New Englands than we'll talk if he can shed the gamemanager tag.

    c'mon maaaaaaaaaaaan

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    Call me when cam does this against a good defense that isn't depleted like New Englands than we'll talk if he can shed the gamemanager tag.
    those goalpoasts though

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    its a tough call, and imo the ref has to be 100% sure its uncatchable to pick the flag up, so i can definitely understand the outrage. though the PI doesn't really start until u see Kuechly's right hand on gronk's back imo, which wouldn't have given him much time to make a play, given his own momentum was carrying him back
    it starts when his hand is on his shoulderpad, you can't face guard with the ball in the air

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    Pffft, call me when cam goes 30/38 with 450 yds & 4 td's against a top 5 defense than we'll talk. Otherwise he'll always be a gamemanager to me.
    Call me when cam does this against a good defense that isn't depleted like New Englands than we'll talk if he can shed the gamemanager tag.

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    I get what you're saying. But then do we call PI even when a QB's arm gets hit mid-release (fumble)? On a sack?

    Anyways in this game I'm torn. I think the ball would've been picked regardless. Though I kinda agree with you that you shouldn't be able to commit clear PI when the ball is in play, robbing the receiver of even having the opportunity to make a play. It's not as if a receiver is guaranteed to catch the ball in typical PI situations (one on one coverage).
    Yep, you shouldn't be tackling rivals when they don't have the ball. Simple as that.

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    Former NFL officiating supervisor Jim Daopoulos:

    Austin is incorrect with his explanation...that ball was catchable and saying it was uncatchable is incorrect

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    it starts when his hand is on his shoulderpad, you can't face guard with the ball in the air
    the left hand on the shoulder pad was in NO way impeding or forcing gronk's motion. and where the is the faceguard?

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    the left hand on the shoulder pad was in NO way impeding or forcing gronk's motion. and where the is the faceguard?
    he's looking at his face and not the ball the entire way

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    he's looking at his face and not the ball the entire way
    that's not what faceguarding is tbh

    http://www.ehow.com/facts_4778957_nf...-guarding.html

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    i didn't say it would be a easy catch he could easily have cut to it. They interfered with his attempt to catch it, which is why the flag was thrown
    You said like 5 words dude, it's not hard to get mixed up on what you're saying. You said the cut would be easy. I contend that plowing through a MLB and a DB is not easy. Even if the MLB does not hold him, his body still has mass. Gronk is not a superhuman. He cannot stop on a dime, then push through Kuechly then try to catch the ball. (all within under a second given that Brady had already released the ball...) If Brady hadn't thrown the ball yet then it makes perfect sense that he'd potentially have time to do all of the above.

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    Cam's recievers did all the work after the catch. he threw sissy ass slants and hitch routes all game. dude only had 209yds passing lmao ok. GAMEMANAGER

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    Cam's recievers did all the work after the catch. he threw sissy ass slants and hitch routes all game. dude only had 209yds passing lmao ok. GAMEMANAGER
    what you look like


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    slant and hitch routes all day? somebody wasn't watching the game

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    Cam's recievers did all the work after the catch. he threw sissy ass slants and hitch routes all game. dude only had 209yds passing lmao ok. GAMEMANAGER
    He's the main reason Carolina won tonight, tbh.

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    cam newton

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    Pffft, call me when cam goes 30/38 with 450 yds & 4 td's against a top 5 defense than we'll talk. Otherwise he'll always be a gamemanager to me.
    This wasn't a sarcastic post?

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    did he your mother, tbh?

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    Cam played really well tonight and bailed out his defense which wasn't great as it normally is. Strong game by Cam. Still has alot of work to do on his passing game, but he played really well overall.

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    He's the main reason Carolina won tonight, tbh.

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    went ahead and ftfy

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    This wasn't a sarcastic post?
    based on his follow up posts, sadly no

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    he once was telling me about how Romo IS a clutch QB

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    he once was telling me about how Romo IS a clutch QB


    yeah there was that one time in the playoffs... oh wait

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