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    You know what I think. Ban the legal acquisition of handguns, assault rifles and whatever else you can pry from the hands of hillbillies. "But people would just get them illegally" I hear you say. Well, that already happens, so at least rid of one viable option for budding psychopaths to purchase a weapon.
    The less legally owned guns out in circulation, the more expensive the illegally purchased ones are. Supply and demand. Step up America.

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    How did ducks get Planned Parenthood salaries into this?

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    The less legally owned guns out in circulation, the more expensive the illegally purchased ones are. Supply and demand. Step up America.
    EXACTLY!


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    Oz's very positive experience with fewer guns after the Tasmanian massacre

    http://mic.com/articles/123049/19-ye...d-in-australia

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    Except gun rights aren't only for the wealthy who can afford insurance and all this other bs, it's for anyone. You can't use the power to tax to start pushing political agendas. Why don't we tax you to post? $1.00 per ty post, posting without a license? 1,000 dollar fine, 2nd offense? 5 year sentence for excessive shilling and posting.
    If they really want a gun, they can find the money, like they do for cars, gas, s, drugs, cable TV, hardener, cellphones, eat-out meals. So that bull excuse. and your pervertedly WRONG interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
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    If they really want a gun, they can find the money, like they do for cars, gas, s, drugs, cable TV, hardener, cellphones, eat-out meals. So that bull excuse. and your pervertedly WRONG interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
    ^^^^
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    1.00 dollar fine.

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    1.00 dollar fine.
    What's wrong with using tax policy to deter gun ownership? Is it uncons utional? Honest question.

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    Oz's very positive experience with fewer guns after the Tasmanian massacre

    http://mic.com/articles/123049/19-ye...d-in-australia
    Homicidea Assaultb Sexual assault Robberyc Kidnapping/abduction
    1996 354 114,156 14,542 16,372 478
    1997 364 124,500 14,353 21,305 564
    1998 334 130,903 14,689 23,801 707
    1999 385 134,271 14,699 22,606 766
    2000 362 138,708 16,406 23,336 695
    2001 347 152,283 17,577 26,591 767
    2002 366 160,118 18,718 20,989 706
    2003 341 157,280 18,025 19,709 696
    2004 302 156,849 19,171 16,513 768
    2005 301 166,507 18,695 17,176 729
    2006 321 172,441 19,555 17,375 726
    2007 283 176,077 19,954 17,996 733
    2008 293 170,720 19,992 16,513 788
    2009 293 175,277 18,807 15,238 564
    2010 261 171,083 18,027 14,631 608
    2011 276 117,992 17,592 13,653 675
    2012 297 116,105 18,153 13,155 636

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    What's wrong with using tax policy to deter gun ownership? Is it uncons utional? Honest question.
    It's funny even m>s sees the racism in it.

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    It's funny even m>s sees the racism in it.
    How is taxing gun ownership racist? Are sin taxes racist?

    If anything, I'd think it uncons utional if Americans have a fundamental right to own a gun. If that's the case, I'd equate it to a poll tax. Still, the er decision acknowledged there can be restrictions to gun ownership. Is a tax on gun ownership a legitimate restriction?

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    Don't they have a stamp tax on automatic weapons? If that's not uncons utional, could you apply the same to all gun ownership?

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    1996 354 114,156 14,542 16,372 478
    1997 364 124,500 14,353 21,305 564
    1998 334 130,903 14,689 23,801 707
    1999 385 134,271 14,699 22,606 766
    2000 362 138,708 16,406 23,336 695
    2001 347 152,283 17,577 26,591 767
    2002 366 160,118 18,718 20,989 706
    2003 341 157,280 18,025 19,709 696
    2004 302 156,849 19,171 16,513 768
    2005 301 166,507 18,695 17,176 729
    2006 321 172,441 19,555 17,375 726
    2007 283 176,077 19,954 17,996 733
    2008 293 170,720 19,992 16,513 788
    2009 293 175,277 18,807 15,238 564
    2010 261 171,083 18,027 14,631 608
    2011 276 117,992 17,592 13,653 675
    2012 297 116,105 18,153 13,155 636
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/201...provide_a.html

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    Homicidea Assaultb Sexual assault Robberyc Kidnapping/abduction
    1996 354 114,156 14,542 16,372 478
    1997 364 124,500 14,353 21,305 564
    1998 334 130,903 14,689 23,801 707
    1999 385 134,271 14,699 22,606 766
    2000 362 138,708 16,406 23,336 695
    2001 347 152,283 17,577 26,591 767
    2002 366 160,118 18,718 20,989 706
    2003 341 157,280 18,025 19,709 696
    2004 302 156,849 19,171 16,513 768
    2005 301 166,507 18,695 17,176 729
    2006 321 172,441 19,555 17,375 726
    2007 283 176,077 19,954 17,996 733
    2008 293 170,720 19,992 16,513 788
    2009 293 175,277 18,807 15,238 564
    2010 261 171,083 18,027 14,631 608
    2011 276 117,992 17,592 13,653 675
    2012 297 116,105 18,153 13,155 636
    Do you have the stats for mass gun homicides, all gun homicides and gun suicides in that period?

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    If they really want a gun, they can find the money, like they do for cars, gas, s, drugs, cable TV, hardener, cellphones, eat-out meals. So that bull excuse. and your pervertedly WRONG interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
    no morher er, if we're taxing my gun rights then we are taxing your hate speech

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    where the does the Cons ution block any of that?

    and add 25% Federal sales tax at retail on guns and ammo
    The expense of the potential programs would violate the cons utional right of people with limited financial means to protect their cons utionally guaranteed (individual) 2nd A right. That, in my opinion, would be the ultimate outcome of the inevitable lawsuits / court appeals. Of course, the legislative and executive branches would have to pass laws of this nature (taxation, registration, potential confiscation). This would be dangerous to the political futures of the anti 2nd A folks as well.

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    no morher er, if we're taxing my gun rights then we are taxing your hate speech
    m>s - Why does BD get so angry in his posts? Mayby he should be put on the NICS prohibited list. C'mon BD, just stick to "You Lie" instead of going totally blue in your posts- that's less inflammatory. After all, this is a big happy Spurs family here. Go Spurs Go.

    By the way, by your logic BD, a poll tax really might work as well, right.

    A car is not a right BTW. There is no right to transportation in the cons ution.
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    Top kek maybe this is why britcucks aren't allowed town weapons not even knives

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...harper-6558370

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    The death toll in a knife attack orchestrated by alleged “separatists” at a coal mine in northwestern China’s troubled Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region has climbed to at least 50 people—including five police officers—with as many as 50 injured, according to local security officials who say nine suspects are on the run.

    The attack occurred on Sept. 18, when a group of knife-wielding suspects set upon security guards at the gate of the Sogan Colliery in Aksu (in Chinese, Akesu) prefecture’s Bay (Baicheng) county, before targeting the mine owner’s residence and a dormitory for workers.

    When police officers arrived at the mine in Terek township to control the situation, the attackers rammed their vehicles using trucks loaded down with coal, sources said.

    Three sources, including a ruling Communist Party cadre from a local township government, told RFA’s Uyghur Service in recent days that at least 50 people were killed and as many as 50 injured in the attack—with most casualties suffered by the mine’s largely majority Han Chinese workers.

    http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uygh...015174319.html

    Ban all knives!

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    The expense of the potential programs would violate the cons utional right of people with limited financial means to protect their cons utionally guaranteed (individual) 2nd A right.
    "undue burden" how many of these poor people who can't afford the fees, IDs, etc already have afforded guns, maybe multiple guns?

    So the Cons ution will be raped again by you gun fellators on behalf of gun industry profits so the poorest of the poor can buy guns but there's no Cons utional guarantee that these same poorest of the poor have right to food, shelter, clothing.

    iow, guns are the SUPREME right in the NRA/GOA/gun fellatin sicko fantasy universe, trumping all other rights?

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    I just wish you'd drop your mask completely and come try to take my guns. America is on a collision course and I for one am ready to deal with any and all threats to my security and livelihood. Keep on pestering, your wishes are going to come true. Keep whitewashing those pictures of black shooters. Keep talking your ing .

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    I just wish you'd drop your mask completely and come try to take my guns. America is on a collision course and I for one am ready to deal with any and all threats to my security and livelihood. Keep on pestering, your wishes are going to come true. Keep whitewashing those pictures of black shooters. Keep talking your ing .
    But I thought you were on the ground in Europe?

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    2nd Amendment? G M A F B you duped, lied-to jerkoffs have no clue

    The NRA’s profit soars as deaths from gun massacres mount

    The Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre in Connecticut almost three years ago did nothing to restrict access to guns, as the students of Umpqua Community College in Oregon learned to their cost yesterday.

    But it did a huge amount for the National Rifle Association.


    As the rest of America mourns yet another murderous gun spree on campus, a review of financial filings shows just how far the mammoth gun organization has been able to cash in, big time, on the fallout that followed Sandy Hook in December 2012.


    Membership dues jumped as supporters rallied to the cause. So did profits. And executive pay ran into the millions. Not bad for a charity that is exempt from taxes.
    Yesterday’s college slaughter in Oregon, which left at least 10 dead, was the 142nd shooting incident in a school or college since Sandy Hook. As there have been only over 1,000 days during that period, this means there’s been a shooting in an American school or college about once a week.

    The debate about gun control produced no concrete action. But it did shake up gun supporters, who rushed out to buy more weapons and sent more money to the NRA. They were already in a panic after President Obama got re-elected.

    Gun makers such as Sturm, Ruger RGR, -1.76% and Smith & Wesson SWHC, -0.18% saw a surge in sales.

    The most fanatical gun supporters saw the incident as a call to arms — literally.

    NRA membership dues skyrocketed by a staggering 62% in the year after Sandy Hook, from $108 million to $176 million. Total revenue in 2013 hit a third of a billion dollars.
    As a result, the massive organization saw profits — excuse me, “surpluses” — rocket 2,750% to $57 million.

    Of course, that’s before taxes. But, then, it didn’t pay any taxes, for it is a nonprofit charity.


    The NRA estimates it was also helped by 150,000 volunteers. How many corporations could boast as much?


    The NRA top executives shared that year in a treasure chest of more than $8 million in salary, bonuses, nontaxable benefits, deferred pay and other compensation — a nice payout for an organization that enjoys charitable exemption from U.S. taxes. LaPierre alone made a million bucks a year, which is, ironically, equal to about $100 for every man, woman and child murdered with a gun in America.

    http://www.marke ch.com/story/the...unt-2015-10-02





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    In America, more preschoolers are shot dead each year (82 in 2013) than police officers are in the line of duty (27 in 2013), according to figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the FBI.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/opinion/sunday/nicholas-kristof-a-new-way-to-tackle-gun-deaths.html

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    Muh chilluns.

    But you don't care about the thousands of white children killed by violent apes. You and cuck boy don't care about the 10,000 white British kids abused in Rotherham by "Asian" immigrants. Literally off.

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    Homicidea Assaultb Sexual assault Robberyc Kidnapping/abduction
    1996 354 114,156 14,542 16,372 478
    1997 364 124,500 14,353 21,305 564
    1998 334 130,903 14,689 23,801 707
    1999 385 134,271 14,699 22,606 766
    2000 362 138,708 16,406 23,336 695
    2001 347 152,283 17,577 26,591 767
    2002 366 160,118 18,718 20,989 706
    2003 341 157,280 18,025 19,709 696
    2004 302 156,849 19,171 16,513 768
    2005 301 166,507 18,695 17,176 729
    2006 321 172,441 19,555 17,375 726
    2007 283 176,077 19,954 17,996 733
    2008 293 170,720 19,992 16,513 788
    2009 293 175,277 18,807 15,238 564
    2010 261 171,083 18,027 14,631 608
    2011 276 117,992 17,592 13,653 675
    2012 297 116,105 18,153 13,155 636
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

    Have to be a bit better as establishing causality. One graph out of context doesn't do that.

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