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    Idk. I think you're giving him too much credit in thinking things through. But I do agree that the home town thing may be a deciding factor. I don't know that coming to the Spurs gets him a ring with the potential sacrifices they'd have to make. Maybe under the right coach, he'd show some desire or toughness. Right now, he looks like someone who really doesn't give a . Or at least someone that gives a but doesn't have the drive to do anything about it.
    That's fake "give a ". 10x more defensive during the press conference than during the game.

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    That's fake "give a ". 10x more defensive during the press conference than during the game.
    Which is why I hope the Spurs don't try to get him. Unless it's on the cheap. And not if it means moving players to an unnatural position.

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    Im willing to lose Parker, ESPECIALLY if Duncan retires.
    Who the is going to trade for Tony?

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    Which is why I hope the Spurs don't try to get him. Unless it's on the cheap. And not if it means moving players to an unnatural position.
    Durant would be a better PG than porker

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    Which is why I hope the Spurs don't try to get him. Unless it's on the cheap. And not if it means moving players to an unnatural position.
    It won't be on the cheap. They said LMA couldn't defend but when he gets into a program that demands it, he's been pretty solid. Guys who aren't forced to defend, guys like James Harden and KD, they never expend the energy to do so. We know James can defend if he wants to, we've seen it and he's a good defender when he wants to be. Kobe was the same, but like the previous 2 I mentioned stopped trying when he no longer felt the urge. Glory comes from offense, it's a rare breed who establishes their defensive game before trying to get their shots.

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    Who the is going to trade for Tony?
    Larry Bird might trade Paul George for Tony. It would be nice to have Paul George back in a Spurs uniform.

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    If he wants to win a le he has 3 options (Warriors, Spurs or Cavs). Going anywhere else would be just a waste of time. Cavs aren't a legit option but if he goes to any team in the East they won't be better than Cleveland.
    If he sign w/ the Wiz then they could pose a legit threat to the Cavs.

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    This team could have beaten last season's Cavs.

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    Larry Bird might trade Paul George for Tony. It would be nice to have Paul George back in a Spurs uniform.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Feel Jackson traded for Tony (absorb him into the cap) after he realizes nobody wants to sign w/ the Knicks.

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    It won't be on the cheap. They said LMA couldn't defend but when he gets into a program that demands it, he's been pretty solid. Guys who aren't forced to defend, guys like James Harden and KD, they never expend the energy to do so. We know James can defend if he wants to, we've seen it and he's a good defender when he wants to be. Kobe was the same, but like the previous 2 I mentioned stopped trying when he no longer felt the urge. Glory comes from offense, it's a rare breed who establishes their defensive game before trying to get their shots.
    It'd be an expensive gamble to find out if KD was that rare breed. Don't want to spend that money and move players and end up with TMac 2.0.

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    Durant would be a better PG than porker
    I'm on board with that. If getting Durant means they get I'd of Parker and his salary, that's more compelling.

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    Let's be clear; KD isn't coming to SA. Now that we have that out of the way, Tony Parker isn't going anywhere either. So now we have LMA and KL. We have KL locked up pretty well and I don't know about LMA's contract. We're good enough to not sell the farm to get that diminishing return, and historically we've rested on "good enough" in hopes that some luck and preparation will put us in a position to compete for a championship come June. We've had plenty seasons where this or that went against our plans, but some where we were in the right place when the stars aligned and we were able to grab another ring from this group. Now we have relatively the best defensive team we've ever fielded and it's possible our offense comes along. We could use some outside shooting that's world class like we've had in the past, but we don't need a franchise player to do that. What KD does for OKC is to hit shots at a high rate and get to the line and knock them down. We'd find a place for him and no doubt the rest of the league would cower in fear, but that's not who the Spurs have ever been. They acquired LMA because TD and Manu are retiring, and someone is going to fill that "face of the franchise" void. KL is one of them but there's room for two at least, these days. You don't see too many solo acts any more but there are a couple who rise above the noise (James and Curry).

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    He would never sign there, but I think Atlanta is probably the best fit for him.

    Defensive minded team with a great coach and great complementary players for Durant.

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    Looks good on paper and they could challenge the Cavs in the East.

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    I'm on board with that. If getting Durant means they get I'd of Parker and his salary, that's more compelling.
    The problem with this is that a team needs to take Parker giving no salary back. So they're not trading nothing for Parker, they're trading $14.4m in cap space for 2 years for him. This is especially a problem now because there's a huge cap jump coming next year and every team will have cap space to spend, but Parker's contract will eat into that.

    Normally we might be able to trade him and even get something back, but this year and next we might even have to include a pick to get rid of his contract.

    The one most likely to be traded if we are to chase KD/Conley/Horford is still Danny Green, because he has his market, and because Diaw's contract is only $7m which is not enough to clear max cap space. Don't expect to get an asset back either because every GM knows we are trading to clear cap space and trading $12m in cap for him is plenty. Same situation with Splitter last year.

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    lol people with regular jobs who see NBA as a recreational activity thinking pros prioritize "rings" above money. Would you leave your business to earn a "best in class" certificate or notoriety elsewhere and sacrifice half your pay? If you had enough already, perhaps, but these guys are corporations in and unto themselves, and they have a lot of people around them pushing them this or that way. You can bet they aren't being pushed to San Antonio, because posses don't give a about your ring. They want money.
    He can get rings and money, tbh. He is in that category. And players know that rings are calling cards post career. They actually have capital value besides prestige.

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