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    Let me preface this by saying I don't really like the player all that much, but SA needs talent in general. Could anyone see SA trading for Greg Monroe (something like Boris + Mills for Monroe + MIL 1st RD Pick) if it meant getting MIL first round pick?

    It would equate to using about 7M in cap space to acquire him, would give someone younger/big to have in the fold if Tim retires (this year or next) for a few years and give the Spurs access to another first rounder.

    I don't love the fit, but do people think that would be a wise move to gamble on? Especially if Tim/Manu come back, SA won't have max level cap space anyways, this might be a way to gamble on some younger talent and get an extra pick.
    I think we should trade with the Bucks, but not for Monroe. I really think the Spurs could turn MCW into something, and it's such a low risk potentially high reward move that it makes sense.

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    As for the Butler talk, why would the Bulls trade a proven 2-way star just entering his prime for any pick? Wiggins and pick maybe, but only if you're going full-on youth rebuild... and Wiggins is more a second option, which means he may not suit a rebuilding team at this point in his career anyway.

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    Let me preface this by saying I don't really like the player all that much, but SA needs talent in general. Could anyone see SA trading for Greg Monroe (something like Boris + Mills for Monroe + MIL 1st RD Pick) if it meant getting MIL first round pick?

    It would equate to using about 7M in cap space to acquire him, would give someone younger/big to have in the fold if Tim retires (this year or next) for a few years and give the Spurs access to another first rounder.

    I don't love the fit, but do people think that would be a wise move to gamble on? Especially if Tim/Manu come back, SA won't have max level cap space anyways, this might be a way to gamble on some younger talent and get an extra pick.
    Spurs can't do this trade due to being over the cap.

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    Keep an eye on Darius Adams, who's attending the Spurs' free agent mini-camp today. He played very well overseas and may be in the NBA soon.

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    Keep an eye on Darius Adams, who's attending the Spurs' free agent mini-camp today. He played very well overseas and may be in the NBA soon.
    Ugh, please not. I'm really surprised that the Spurs invited him. They should know him quite well as he played on the same team as Bertans and Hanga for the last couple of seasons. He plays PG but in reality he is just a chucker who lives on making tough, contested shots while not being that great a shooter. He gets hot in some games but overall his percentages are pretty bad and at 27 he isn't exactly a young prospect.

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    Ugh, please not. I'm really surprised that the Spurs invited him. They should know him quite well as he played on the same team as Bertans and Hanga for the last couple of seasons. He plays PG but in reality he is just a chucker who lives on making tough, contested shots while not being that great a shooter. He gets hot in some games but overall his percentages are pretty bad and at 27 he isn't exactly a young prospect.
    I like a PG who plays with confidence.. PG's have to shoot I mean Points is in the name of the le.

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    Word is Splitter is supposedly ahead of schedule and on track to be ready for the start of the season.

    The Hawks don't have cap issues, yet I wonder if they'd trade him back to the Spurs for essentially nothing, just to free up even more cap space.

    Sure, he's brittle, but he's got 1 year left and if they think he can hold up and regain much of his previous form, I'd still rather him than many of the other center options that have been bandied about.

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    Word is Splitter is supposedly ahead of schedule and on track to be ready for the start of the season.

    The Hawks don't have cap issues, yet I wonder if they'd trade him back to the Spurs for essentially nothing, just to free up even more cap space.

    Sure, he's brittle, but he's got 1 year left and if they think he can hold up and regain much of his previous form, I'd still rather him than many of the other center options that have been bandied about.
    He's been hurt too consistently over the last few seasons, these are not the droids we are looking for

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    I'd easily take Splitter back

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    Ugh, please not. I'm really surprised that the Spurs invited him. They should know him quite well as he played on the same team as Bertans and Hanga for the last couple of seasons. He plays PG but in reality he is just a chucker who lives on making tough, contested shots while not being that great a shooter. He gets hot in some games but overall his percentages are pretty bad and at 27 he isn't exactly a young prospect.
    Seems like a decent enough Mills replacement if he gets dealt. The Spurs should draft a PG regardless, but having a vet hold down the second unit for a year or two while the rook gets up to speed is good. And if Adams is a score-first guard, that's even better. Right now, Kyle Anderson is likely to be the main scorer off the bench next season. The team should have more options just so they don't have to rely on Kyle from day one.

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    Do you think Spurs will sign a hmm a good player this off season?

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    Seems like a decent enough Mills replacement if he gets dealt. The Spurs should draft a PG regardless, but having a vet hold down the second unit for a year or two while the rook gets up to speed is good. And if Adams is a score-first guard, that's even better. Right now, Kyle Anderson is likely to be the main scorer off the bench next season. The team should have more options just so they don't have to rely on Kyle from day one.
    I know it's early, but what do you think the off season plan is? Well, let's frame it two ways: Plan if Tim retires or if Tim returns.

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    I know it's early, but what do you think the off season plan is? Well, let's frame it two ways: Plan if Tim retires or if Tim returns.
    I think if Tim comes back (and assuming Manu does too), then the plan would be to do little besides bring over young guys. Maybe there'd be a trade involving Mills and/or Diaw's contract, but I expect nothing major to change in the rotation except maybe Boban stepping in for West as the bench center.

    If Tim leaves, I think we may see the team shake things up a lot more. People can keep acting like the Spurs are going into next season close to their 67-win form, but they aren't. They need big changes so that their roster can fit the new system. I can't see Diaw coming back on his deal. Mills might come back, but with no Manu, Patty's viability falls quite a bit. I could see him being dealt. I think the plan will be to find a new bench, since Anderson may be the only returning member from the second unit. They'll probably look for offense, like Adams, though hopefully with more production. They might bring in a vet shooter to compete with Bertans. I don't think Durant is the plan unless he told them he was leaning toward picking them. There's just no coming back from moving Green or even Parker if they are left with no Durant and the other free agents potentially already locked up.

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    I think if Tim comes back (and assuming Manu does too), then the plan would be to do little besides bring over young guys. Maybe there'd be a trade involving Mills and/or Diaw's contract, but I expect nothing major to change in the rotation except maybe Boban stepping in for West as the bench center.

    If Tim leaves, I think we may see the team shake things up a lot more. People can keep acting like the Spurs are going into next season close to their 67-win form, but they aren't. They need big changes so that their roster can fit the new system. I can't see Diaw coming back on his deal. Mills might come back, but with no Manu, Patty's viability falls quite a bit. I could see him being dealt. I think the plan will be to find a new bench, since Anderson may be the only returning member from the second unit. They'll probably look for offense, like Adams, though hopefully with more production. They might bring in a vet shooter to compete with Bertans. I don't think Durant is the plan unless he told them he was leaning toward picking them. There's just no coming back from moving Green or even Parker if they are left with no Durant and the other free agents potentially already locked up.
    Do you see it as likely (even if difficult) that SA tries to trade Boris for an actual player? Or do you think SA would be willing to give up a pick to move Boris and clear the full 7M of his salary?

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    Do you see it as likely (even if difficult) that SA tries to trade Boris for an actual player? Or do you think SA would be willing to give up a pick to move Boris and clear the full 7M of his salary?
    Good questions. I thought they would look to move Boris, initially. He was the first guy I thought of, even though clearly the entire bench underperformed, it wasn't just him, but I thought of Boris bc he has recently fallen off, and depending on matchups at times Pop went with DWest, and others KA over him. It seems like between these two players Boris was at times expendable and had we not had him all season, we probably end up about the same, maybe sans a couple of wins, but not that many that our seeding would change, and he wasn't a difference maker of any kind in the playoffs. That is generally not a good place to be if you are Boris.

    However, I have since reconsidered my stance on Boris, both bc he stated Pop wished to keep him and DWest IMO will likely walk.

    My theory, if Manu and Tim walk into the sunset, Pop will find it too unsettling to hand over the bench to just young players like Anderson and Boban (with maybe Simmons, Mills, and a combination of other young guys like Bertans, Cady, maybe a draftee for depth). Too many youngsters at the same time, too many unproven players, too many second year players and rookies. Even in a roster makeover, I think Pop's head will go:

    He could do one of two things, flip Mills and Diaw for a true proven veteran to lead the bench, surrounding said guy with all the young talent the club has ac ulated, or go with Mills and Diaw and then all the young talent. The problem with flipping Mills and Diaw is the NBA 2k16 syndrome: He may wish for several guys he likes out there, but Mills and Diaw won't turn into that guy bc of their trade stock is not that high. So if he can't flip them for a better player, its better to go with them for continuity and vet support for whoever younger guys he has out there.

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    For sure - I don't think you go into it with an all or nothing at ude. There has to be a player(s) you like and if they are willing to trade move forward. I don't think Pop is at the point he wants Boris gone no matter what, so you may be right that it's more about opportunity than anything else (Tim's decision, West's, etc...)

    But despite Boris' recent comments, Pops actions and Boris being completely buried despite "needing" him, was telling. That and his contract point to him being the most likely to be traded in my mind.

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    Spurs won't move Green unless Durant or Horford says yes.

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    Spurs won't move Green unless Durant or Horford says yes.
    Horford was an option before LMA, now, he makes no sense. I swear some people are just captivated by the name on the back of the jersey and don't really care if the player fits or not.

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    There was rumors around the trade deadline that we wanted Horford. I doubt we were really that interested. But it is interesting that we were linked. I think it only becomes our consideration if Duncan goes. It would give the Spurs the best front line in the league.

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    I think Conley is the only realistic big name the Spurs could bring in. He'll likely get max where ever he decides to go. Although Conley only makes sense for the Spurs if Parker is traded, which is very unlikely. If the Spurs move Green it should only be for a 2 or 3. Green can be a streaky shooter, but he still plays solid d.

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    Seems like a decent enough Mills replacement if he gets dealt. The Spurs should draft a PG regardless, but having a vet hold down the second unit for a year or two while the rook gets up to speed is good. And if Adams is a score-first guard, that's even better. Right now, Kyle Anderson is likely to be the main scorer off the bench next season. The team should have more options just so they don't have to rely on Kyle from day one.
    Get ready for 2ppg from the bench then

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    Get ready for 2ppg from the bench then

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    Ugh, Anderson is such a trash player

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