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    It's still about Dragic, right?
    I can't pinpoint one specific reason but he does with them.

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    Gonna watch it anyway. Murray's game tbh

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    Tend to think there are battles for minutes going on at these games too, and then obviously the guys trying to make the roster. I really want to see this game, I hope we can find a good stream. I have had issues streaming in the past with lag, and bad connections.

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    Just take the L on this one
    Or . . .

    He'll be an NBA Finals MVP.
    Murray, he admits that he has become acquainted with the local Whataburger chain...
    You both take that L.

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    I expected Pop to do something like this, tbh... I really think he wants to take a closer look at the end of the bench, there's way more decisions to do there than at the top...

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    I expected Pop to do something like this, tbh... I really think he wants to take a closer look at the end of the bench, there's way more decisions to do there than at the top...
    Sure, but he could have done this later in the pre-season..but I suppose he wants to cut the no good guys as quick as possible so he can use the last couple of games to really prepare the main the guys.

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    Sure, but he could have done this later in the pre-season..but I suppose he wants to cut the no good guys as quick as possible so he can use the last couple of games to really prepare the main the guys.
    yup

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    Sure, but he could have done this later in the pre-season..but I suppose he wants to cut the no good guys as quick as possible so he can use the last couple of games to really prepare the main the guys.
    Good point. With really a recons uted bench, he needs to spend "development time" in preseason refining his rotation and things like that.

    So much of interest in this game.
    I think the reason only Kawhi of the real veterans is going is for leadership. He needs to be vocal, rally guys if they are down, etc. Plus, he probably has to make sure guys know what they are supposed to be doing and mention things as he sees them. It's a test for him. He mentioned knowing when to pass and knowing when to take over as things he was focusing on this season. Once Tony, Pau, Manu, even Mills are on the court, it's easy for him to revert to deferring, and I think Pop wants to get him to start the season in a different mentality. Or maybe I read too much into it. Either way I am intrigued.

    He might just be going for moral support and leadership and Pop really just wants to see everyone else, but how would it look for Pop if he went with an entire "summer leaguish" roster with Anderson and Simmons as his only vets on his team. He brought Kawhi to set the example maybe....

    Then Anderson and Simmons have to do their thing too. Are they starting or in the bench? Anderson needs to be aggressive and can't defer here. Simmons needs to be solid. They have to carry over their SL success against NBA compe ion. Suns are a very young team, but they are an NBA team regardless. There is no excuse not to step it up. Could be a good test defensively for Simmons with Booker for example too, (Pop looks at defense intently).

    Then Lee has his issues. I think he is battling for playing time with both Dedmon and Anderson but has an uphill battle if they both step up (he said minutes off the bench at the 4 and 5 in that interview and Pop said Anderson is playing regardless, so Lee has to show up, maybe even some vet leadership here.

    Bertans and Murray are playing to earn minutes in the RS (who wouldn't if you are an NBA player, you have to have a goal), but for a first game, to just be poised and solid goes a long way. More than likely it's good to see what level they are at in comparison to others.

    LJC will be LJC.

    Then the training camp battles for the last roster spot. There is definitely a lot to see. Last season Pop did something similar for the first game of the season but Kawhi, LMA, West, Danny, Diaw, Mills were there. This is something different. No one outside Kawhi is going of the prior team and J.Simms and Anderson are probably stepping into larger roles--it's not the same for them either.

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    Starting lineup will probably look lile

    Murray-Leonard-Anderson-Lee-Dedmon

    Or

    Simmons-Anderson-Leonard-Lee-Dedmon

    Or even

    Murray-Simmons-Leonard-Anderson-Lee

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    Starting lineup will probably look lile

    Murray-Leonard-Anderson-Lee-Dedmon

    Or

    Simmons-Anderson-Leonard-Lee-Dedmon

    Or even

    Murray-Simmons-Leonard-Anderson-Lee
    I think one of Anderson or Simmons is the 6th man and comes off the bench, maybe? Has to be someone with some experience in the system and maybe someone Pop wants to see in that role. Pop could start Bertans for example to add spacing for Kawhi and have Anderson as the 6th man. Or it could very well be J.Simms too. Last season in that Mavs game to end the season where Pop sat everybody, he started Anderson, and Simmons came off the bench (but Danny played that game and he started).

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    I 'd like to see Dejounte, Jonathon, Kawhi, David Lee and Dedmon receive some playing time against Suns in the preseason. This unit could hide Lee defensive shortcomings and benefit from his Offensive skills set.

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    I 'd like to see Dejounte, Jonathon, Kawhi, David Lee and Dedmon receive some playing time against Suns in the preseason. This unit could hide Lee defensive shortcomings and benefit from his Offensive skills set.

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    Once again, Sarver will apologize to Suns' fans for Spurs starters not participating in the game "but but this is not the game you paid your money to watch "...in a chicken suit.
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    Starting lineup will probably look lile

    Murray-Leonard-Anderson-Lee-Dedmon

    Or

    Simmons-Anderson-Leonard-Lee-Dedmon

    Or even

    Murray-Simmons-Leonard-Anderson-Lee
    I believe he'll go with 2 traditional bigs, so Murray, Simmons, Kawhi, Lee and Dedmon. Kyle off the bench, I can't see Kyle and Kawhi starting together since we will need Kyle to be an aggressor and creator off the bench this season.

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    I didn't see the prior scrimmage so I stear clear from that. I think the test was more for the small ball bench TBH. If they don't survive with Kawhi there as a small ball 4, Pop has to think it won't work with Bertans or Kyle. It was a test for their bigs to guard a small ball team that is athletic too. It's always a good learning experience for Kyle to defend elite talent as Kawhi is. He's definitely a still improving player. He's got to be able to do his thing against good defenders too.
    I'm certainly curious now... If anyone is able to find a link, I'd love to see it.
    http://projectspurs.com/2014-article...-for-fans.html
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...urs-scrimmage/

    So those are articles about the scrimmage. As I said, it was a crazy game where Green and Kawhi went at each other with Danny playing over his head.

    This is the closet I came to finding video of the event.



    It actually boded pretty accurately for the team, as that was Danny's best year since 2011-2012, and Kawhi in the post became a staple of his and eventually the team's offense. And I believe Splitter was hurt during that scrimmage, and as we all know, him being out severely hampered the team all season.

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    http://projectspurs.com/2014-article...-for-fans.html
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...urs-scrimmage/

    So those are articles about the scrimmage. As I said, it was a crazy game where Green and Kawhi went at each other with Danny playing over his head.

    This is the closet I came to finding video of the event.



    It actually boded pretty accurately for the team, as that was Danny's best year since 2011-2012, and Kawhi in the post became a staple of his and eventually the team's offense. And I believe Splitter was hurt during that scrimmage, and as we all know, him being out severely hampered the team all season.
    Danny indeed had a great season that year. It's too bad outside of him and Cojo a lot of guys had down seasons. Heck Marco has only been on a downward spiral since then. I saw Danny launching 3s coming off a screen there. I hope he's getting his groove back. The news about the hammy I hope are not a bad omen.

    Danny has been a true ironman for seasons now. Trying to put the ball on the floor on close outs screwed him up. I know you wanted him to get chemistry and here he is sidelined. Hopefully he bounces back.
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    Danny indeed had a great season that year. It's too bad outside of him and Cojo a lot of guys had down seasons.
    Green was the third best player on the '14-'15 team, but as much as it probably pained you and your buddy, the clear two best were Duncan and Leonard, yet somehow they didn't merit a mention. If only they were young and mixed.

    At this narrative you're trying to push, that a lot of the regular season success in recent seasons was due to the lesser established young guys.

    They could have plugged any random wing into that 10th rotation spot last season and they were still winning 67 games, with a 10+ point differential.

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    Green was the third best player on the '14-'15 team, but as much as it probably pained you and your buddy, the clear two best were Duncan and Leonard, yet somehow they didn't merit a mention. If only they were young and mixed.

    At this narrative you're trying to push, that a lot of the regular season success in recent seasons was due to the lesser established young guys.

    They could have plugged any random wing into that 10th rotation spot last season and they were still winning 67 games, with a 10+ point differential.

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    Green was the third best player on the '14-'15 team, but as much as it probably pained you and your buddy, the clear two best were Duncan and Leonard, yet somehow they didn't merit a mention. If only they were young and mixed.

    At this narrative you're trying to push, that a lot of the regular season success in recent seasons was due to the lesser established young guys.

    They could have plugged any random wing into that 10th rotation spot last season and they were still winning 67 games, with a 10+ point differential.


    That 67 wins atleast 17 wins were from fathead.

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    we even had Dworst starting for the Spurs some games.

    He gets about another 17.

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    Lets just forget about LMA signing. He was consistent and played lots of games.

    Lets also forget that Kawhi, the second best player in the NBA is barely starting his peak. Nah that, FATHEAD gave us atleast 20 extra wins.

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    Green was the third best player on the '14-'15 team, but as much as it probably pained you and your buddy, the clear two best were Duncan and Leonard, yet somehow they didn't merit a mention. If only they were young and mixed.

    At this narrative you're trying to push, that a lot of the regular season success in recent seasons was due to the lesser established young guys.

    They could have plugged any random wing into that 10th rotation spot last season and they were still winning 67 games, with a 10+ point differential.
    lol I don't know what the heck you mean in your first sentence, Kawhi was a beast but that was one of his lowest shooting seasons if I recall correctly (or even his worst shooting season overall). He was injured for a good month + he started shooting very off bc of an eye injury. So if I had to reference Kawhi, that wasn't his best overall season of his career. I didn't think I needed to mention that. Tim wasn't a topic of conversation. He was magnificent too, but that wasn't one of his best seasons of his career either. My statement was that compared to their own careers individually, only Danny and Cojo had career years for themselves (I think Baynes did too, but I forgot him). Compared to them, everyone else had down seasons, that's what I meant. The championship season, Mills and Marco had career seasons. Maybe to win a championship you need career seasons from some roleplayers too.

    lol you don't give up TD. You can ridicule my take on Kyle but I know what I saw and the guy who swallowed minutes when TD, then Kawhi, then Manu went down was Kyle. He also showed up when guys were rested. It wasn't only him, it was a group effort and I stated that elsewhere. Boban showed up for some games and was impactful in games he played outside of garbage time (sadly there weren't many bc D.West) and J.Simms was impactful in some games too. But if you think any old 10th wing would have given what Kyle gave you are underrating him as many are and that is fine, but don't be ridiculing the impact that he had, which has earned him a rotation spot this season. Bc for sure Pop is not going to say it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, based on summer league play. I think he was very impactful defensively and last season's team was a defensive team first. But you keep on keeping on with that. Not hating on others who think differently bc everyone is en led to their opinion.

    Jesus PPl are touchy here! I can't reference someone having an individually great season without acknowledging the Tony vs. Manu debate, mentioning TD, acknowledging the greatness of Kawhi etc.
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    KAwhi was ing beast mode when he came back and got us back in the playoff race to within 1 game of second place. Like a huge winning streak. GOD MODE Kawhi.

    I rememeber telling SAGirl she was ing stupid for saying kawhi was a bad shooter when I clearly had told her he had no training camp. Bad Eyes. New role for the "others" to adjust. She has always been a ign since day one. Never had one good take since shes been here TBH.

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