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if there was a re-election and the same result...htf are they going to spin it again?
In Latest Tweetstorm, Trump Questions Whether DNC Was Even Hacked
Donald J. Trump
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The Democratic National Committee would not allow the FBI to study or see its computer info after it was supposedly hacked by Russia....
Donald J. Trump
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So how and why are they so sure about hacking if they never even requested an examination of the computer servers? What is going on?
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How did NBC get "an exclusive look into the top secret report he (Obama) was presented?" Who gave them this report and why? Politics!
This week, Trump has mocked the intelligence community on Twitter while seemingly siding with Wikileaks’ Julian Assange over America’s own intelligence agencies.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/in-latest-tweetstorm-trump-questions-whether-dnc-was-even-hacked/Donald J. Trump
Trash denies the illegitimacy of his Presidency like Repugs deny AGW
All Lies, All The Time.
America is ed and un able.
if there was a re-election and the same result...htf are they going to spin it again?
Still the Same. Russians hacked.
Top 4 Ways Bush Even More Outrageously Dissed the Intelligence Community
http://www.commondreams.org/views/20...ence-community
Former CIA director James Woolsey quits Trump transition team day before president-elect speaks on Russia hack
Less than 24-hours before Donald Trump is set to announce his so-called knowledge of Russia hacking, one of his top intelligence advisers has quit his team.
Former CIA director James Woolsey will no longer serve as an adviser to the President-elect or be part of the transition team as he was reportedly "excluded" from talks.
Mr Woolsey’s spokesman, Jonathan Franks, said that his departure will be "effective immediately".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7512296.html
who do you like in the war between the deep state, itself, and the politicians?
Intelligence chief: Russia’s election interference went far beyond hacks
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dni-russi...173246915.htmlDirector of National Intelligence James Clapper says the Russian government’s interference with the United States election went far beyond the now highly publicized hacks of Democratic email accounts, which were merely one part of a multilayered campaign of propaganda and deception.
The intelligence leader outlined various methods wielded by Moscow to interfere with U.S. ins utions during Thursday morning testimony on cyberattacks before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
The testimony comes at a point of tension between the U.S. intelligence community and Donald Trump. The president-elect, set to meet with intelligence brass on Friday, has repeatedly cast doubt on the U.S. government’s conclusion that Russian state-sponsored cyberattacks sought to influence the election.
At the hearing, Sen. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., asked Clapper if he could address not only classified information but also the relevance of publicly available information in seeing the full picture of Russia’s activities.
“While there has been a lot of focus on the hacking, this is actually part of a multifaceted campaign that the Russians mounted,” Clapper told the committee.
Clapper pointed to the Kremlin-funded TV channel RT, previously called Russia Today. “Of course RT, which is heavily supported, funded by the Russian government, was very, very active in promoting a particular point of view, disparaging our system,” he continued.
Why bother with leaks, when you are going to testify in front of Congress about what you have?
What I find odd and more than a bit sad is that our democracy is under direct attack from a government that views the idea itself as a hostile attack on them, and there are no few people here that seem to be playing this down, for the sole reason that their favored political party benefitted from that attack.
Seems to fit the definition of treason, IMO.
well, I'll guess we'll see.
as it stands, no evidence supports hacking. only the say so of anonymous sources and Mr. Clapper, who pushed aluminum tubes as WMDs and lied to the US Congress about domestic surveillance and CIA spying on the US Senate.
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The evidence so far has been weak; the treason hypothesis rests on an assumed premise, and is therefore overblown.
Im pretty sure weve been hacking russias network for years. Where is their outrage??
WaPo "citing" anonymous US officials
That you went there is revealing: urging a hypothesis of mass treason by Republicans on the thin reed of unproven Russian hacking tends to discredit the president-elect and his supporters. The umbrage taken by the targets may have as much to do with being slandered without evidence, as with being Trump voters.
Accusing people of treason without good evidence is reprehensible, but it's also what partisan hacks do.
Which tweet is a lie? Be specific.
This is really a fight between Trump and supporters, and Democrats on the swaying of an election which is done.
Over.
The broader point is attempting interference. Trump will be president. The accusation we must stick to is that the highest Russian officials might have ordered interference of any kind.
Trump gets butt hurt over Arnold taking over his show, so forget his sickness. He can't help himself. There are bigger issues, good intelligence and attempted interference. Trump is pathologically insecure, this will not go away.
I believe this will be a major theme of our new government. We will have a leader who will go off the rail on some issues. This should not prevent us from seeking the best information we can get on these issues. This is fundamental. The opinions and editorials that follow are secondary. We will just have to be smart enough to determine which are making a mockery of the fundamentals.
Suggest you read the article first.
Funny how Clinton supporters who clutched their pearls over DJT threatening to contest the transition of power are doing it now.
Which assumed premise?
Russia views democracy itself as an enemy, and works to undermine it at every opportunity. They have defined themselves as an enemy, and it is reasonable to accept that, given their statements and actions. I can provide quite a bit of commentary by both Putin and his underlings to support that.
The evidence is fairly ulative, and is far stronger than you appear to be aware of, no offense. I can, and should, do a bit of combing through open-source items to support that.
The only people directly criticizing this are the people whose political party benefitted from that enemy action. They are covering for an enemy, and that again seems to fit the definition of "aid and comfort", does it not?
I am happy to be honest and admit that full out "treason" is a bit of an exaggeration, but the fact that I can make this case in a plausible fashion is damning enough without it.
How Russia wields cyberpower
"Russia has been the dominant actor in state-sponsored espionage in cyberspace for the past two decades," says Tom Kellermann of the cybersecurity firm Strategic Cyber Ventures.
"Cyberespionage and cybercrime are being seen as a strategic imperative for the regime," he said.
"It will be employed not only to facilitate propaganda, but it could also be used to manipulate data. Russia has the luxury of using their cybercrime proxies to create a fog of war."
But hacking tools appear to be just one means for Russia to exert its global agenda. Moscow is also relying on its economic powers, traditional propaganda, and espionage campaigns to compete with the US for influence in Europe,
"In certain countries, Russian influence has become so pervasive and endemic that it has challenged national stability as well as a country's Western orientation and Euro-Atlantic stability,"
"Kompromat is an old KGB strategy,"
Russia had also recently used "cybertactics and techniques to seek to influence public opinion across Europe and Eurasia."
with the internet, Russia is more able to disrupt its adversaries and promote its global viewpoint at greater speed and scale.
"You have to view the hacking as one part of a broader series of steps that the Russian leadership has undertaken over the last few years,"
"The broader US–Russia relationship is at a very dangerous point right now. Hacking is a part of it."
Russia-linked hackers appear to be using Ukraine as a test bed for digital attacks that target utilities and military operations.
a Kremlin-linked hacking group was also able to successfully compromise an Android app developed by Ukrainian soldiers used to speed up firing time for artillery weapons.
"This is a tactic that will be looked at by many militaries around the world,"
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Passc...lds-cyberpower
America has elected a Pootin-compromised, simpleton President aided and abetted by a Repug party that adores Pootin as real manspreading Macho Man leader.
Repugs/VRWC leading USA into insane times. America is ed and un able.
Bull . I've posted numerous non-partisan articles from those in the security sector that directly criticize the JAR report.
Do people not realize how amateurish the hack was?
How to protect yourself from Russian hackers:
1. Check URL for any hyperlink emailed to you, even if sender appears legit.
2. Don't run executables emailed to you
Has any US intelligence agency actually had access to the DNC server to do their own forensics analysis or has the DNC denied them access like they denied the FBI? Why is the DNC denying access to any US intelligence agency?
Is the entire US intelligence agency conclusion based off the DNC hired CrowdStrike analysis?
Instead, Wordfence found the attack software was P.AS. 3.1.0, an out-of-date, web-s hacking tool. The newest version, 4.1.1b, is more sophisticated. Its website claims it was written in the Ukraine.
Mark Maunder, Wordfence's CEO, concluded that since the attacks were made "several versions behind the most current version of P.A.S [sic] which is 4.1.1b. One might reasonably expect Russian intelligence operatives to develop their own tools or at least use current malicious tools from outside sources."
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