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    It’s effectively an outright ban. Florida requires 2 Dr appointments before you can get an abortion.

    Good luck discovering you’re pregnant, having two Dr appointments, and then procuring the actual abortion pill (that’s now no longer available by mail) all in 6 weeks after conception.
    Ditto for the exceptions, good luck presenting legal proof of rape or incest within the limitation.

    Minor point on the abortion pill: Alito just stayed the Kacsmaryk decision, so it won't go into effect tonight.

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    It's really depressing to think 2024 could be Biden and Trump again.

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    It's really depressing to think 2024 could be Biden and Trump again.
    Were you all ready to vote for Puddingfinger?

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    It’s effectively an outright ban. Florida requires 2 Dr appointments before you can get an abortion.

    Good luck discovering you’re pregnant, having two Dr appointments, and then procuring the actual abortion pill (that’s now no longer available by mail) all in 6 weeks after conception.
    Ditto for the exceptions, good luck presenting legal proof of rape or incest within the limitation.

    Minor point on the abortion pill: Alito just stayed the Kacsmaryk decision, so it won't go into effect tonight.
    Drive to North Carolina, it's the nearest pro choice state... but if Mark Robinson wins governor next year then I believe Virginia would be the next choice. The critical thing will be the Virginia state legislature elections this year... if the GOP gets a majority beyond a couple heads in VA while Youngkin is still governor, then the nearest place to get an abortion if you live in Florida would be DC and/or Maryland.... wild.

    If you can't afford to drive or fly there then you can always catch the Megabus or Greyhound.

    Also, PP still operates in states where abortion is banned, and provides the young women / young couples of those states who need an abortion generally the financial resources to go out of state to the nearest out-of-state abortion clinic. They will provide generally flights, not just bus tickets, unless it's a border state... plus a week reimbursement in hotels and meals. If it's just across the border they'll pay for the Uber/Lyft. The possibilities are endless.

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    Drive to North Carolina, it's the nearest pro choice state... but if Mark Robinson wins governor next year then I believe Virginia would be the next choice. The critical thing will be the Virginia state legislature elections this year... if the GOP gets a majority beyond a couple heads in VA while Youngkin is still governor, then the nearest place to get an abortion if you live in Florida would be DC and/or Maryland.... wild.

    If you can't afford to drive or fly there then you can always catch the Megabus or Greyhound.

    Also, PP still operates in states where abortion is banned, and provides the young women / young couples of those states who need an abortion generally the financial resources to go out of state to the nearest out-of-state abortion clinic. They will provide generally flights, not just bus tickets, unless it's a border state... plus a week reimbursement in hotels and meals. If it's just across the border they'll pay for the Uber/Lyft. The possibilities are endless.
    Where did you get all this information about Planned Parenthood?

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    Where did you get all this information about Planned Parenthood?
    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/pl...-abortion-laws

    The first paragraph gives an overview of amenities that are offered. PP is well funded with a lot of big money donations + federal tax dollars left over from the Obama regime.

    I remember going into a PP once in downtown Louisville KY in early March 2020, just before going back to Texas for covid. Just to stop by and ask people that run the place some questions. They gave some interesting answers there. Pretty thought provoking if you ask me. Of course there were the typical handful of religious old ladies outside with signs protesting the existence of the PP building which honestly, they ought to get a life if you ask me. But whatever.

    I've never had to use PP but the one time where it would have been relevant for me I would have done it in a heartbeat. The problem is that while I'm pro-choice, the female I impregnated was pro-life and unfortunately the little rat in there made it to full term & that's kinda been dragging my life down like as if you've ever watched The Details movie on Netflix then you'd understand. Unfortunately I didn't have a guy friend to whom I donated a kidney who would be willing to provide abortion by bow and arrow.

    I have had to go make late night Plan B runs a load of times, which has probably saved me a load in child support type drama though over the years. Nowadays I just stick to dating chicks who take regular birth control. I stopped feeling any pleasure with a condom by age 21 so ergo I don't use condoms.

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    Also, I'm officially terminating my support and revoking my endorsement for Ron DeSantis for next year's president, on this here day, April the fourteenth, two-thousand twenty-three.

    I'm endorsing Democrat RFKennedy Jr., not that he has a shot in to beat out dumb old Biden in the primary.
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    https://www.plannedparenthood.org/pl...-abortion-laws

    The first paragraph gives an overview of amenities that are offered. PP is well funded with a lot of big money donations + federal tax dollars left over from the Obama regime.

    I remember going into a PP once in downtown Louisville KY in early March 2020, just before going back to Texas for covid. Just to stop by and ask people that run the place some questions. They gave some interesting answers there. Pretty thought provoking if you ask me. Of course there were the typical handful of religious old ladies outside with signs protesting the existence of the PP building which honestly, they ought to get a life if you ask me. But whatever.

    I've never had to use PP but the one time where it would have been relevant for me I would have done it in a heartbeat. The problem is that while I'm pro-choice, the female I impregnated was pro-life and unfortunately the little rat in there made it to full term & that's kinda been dragging my life down like as if you've ever watched The Details movie on Netflix then you'd understand. Unfortunately I didn't have a guy friend to whom I donated a kidney who would be willing to provide abortion by bow and arrow.

    I have had to go make late night Plan B runs a load of times, which has probably saved me a load in child support type drama though over the years. Nowadays I just stick to dating chicks who take regular birth control. I stopped feeling any pleasure with a condom by age 21 so ergo I don't use condoms.
    PP did not say they will provide these "amenities."

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    Also, I'm officially terminating my support and revoking my endorsement for Ron DeSantis for next year's president, on this here day, April the fourteenth, two-thousand twenty-three.

    I'm endorsing Democrat RFKennedy Jr., not that he has a shot in to beat out dumb old Biden in the primary.
    who will you vote for in the general election?

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    who will you vote for in the general election?
    most likely just sit out, like 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020, and 2022

    last time I voted at all, the guy at the top of the ticket I voted for not only lost but turned out to be one the filthiest benedict arnold level turncoats in political history.

    Voting and me just vibes about as well as boiling oil and cold water

    PP did not say they will provide these "amenities."
    Yes they do... all you have to do is go to your nearest PP and talk to a representative

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    Yes they do... all you have to do is go to your nearest PP and talk to a representative
    That is not what they the link you provided said.

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    That is not what they the link you provided said.
    realistically, PP and abortion should be legal in all 50 states.

    There's just no logic to what the GOP is trying to argue especially since we are and should be against freeloading / welfare. Rather spend $300 now or $250k+ on freeloading if these parents can't afford and we're not legally allowed to let the babies die once they're born if their parents are broke and in and out of prison? It makes zero financial sense from a conservative perspective to be anti-abortion.

    The religious nutjobs are just so punchable sometimes. They drag our party down like the AOC's and gangsters and illegals drag down the Democrat party.

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    realistically, PP and abortion should be legal in all 50 states.

    There's just no logic to what the GOP is trying to argue especially since we are and should be against freeloading / welfare. Rather spend $300 now or $250k+ on freeloading if these parents can't afford and we're not legally allowed to let the babies die once they're born if their parents are broke and in and out of prison? It makes zero financial sense from a conservative perspective to be anti-abortion.

    The religious nutjobs are just so punchable sometimes. They drag our party down like the AOC's and gangsters and illegals drag down the Democrat party.
    The thing is Republicans aren't against welfare as long as it's Republicans who are receiving it.

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    Man, ever since about 2008, whenever you hear someone proclaim they are a libertarian, you know you’re about to get told some of the stupidest bull you’ve heard in awhile.

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    Man, ever since about 2008, whenever you hear someone proclaim they are a libertarian, you know you’re about to get told some of the stupidest bull you’ve heard in awhile.
    Ya like my post upstairs about Mar-Buried?? https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10883931
    Your join date is April 2003 and that's probably what I remember most from that month... even though we ultimately won that series.

    It was the most difficult Suns team we ever faced in the Duncan era, even counting the 2000 and 2010 teams that beat us (2000 was an * because no Duncan and 2010 the Spurs were just lacking talent around the big 3)

    Next up, ChumpDumper and a thread about the miracle of finally overcoming the Lakers after 3 years of them owning us

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    Drive to North Carolina, it's the nearest pro choice state... but if Mark Robinson wins governor next year then I believe Virginia would be the next choice. The critical thing will be the Virginia state legislature elections this year... if the GOP gets a majority beyond a couple heads in VA while Youngkin is still governor, then the nearest place to get an abortion if you live in Florida would be DC and/or Maryland.... wild.

    If you can't afford to drive or fly there then you can always catch the Megabus or Greyhound.

    Also, PP still operates in states where abortion is banned, and provides the young women / young couples of those states who need an abortion generally the financial resources to go out of state to the nearest out-of-state abortion clinic. They will provide generally flights, not just bus tickets, unless it's a border state... plus a week reimbursement in hotels and meals. If it's just across the border they'll pay for the Uber/Lyft. The possibilities are endless.
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    Why so funny?
    It's not a sure thing that Youngkin will get his state legislative majority in both chambers, which would be needed to enact the vaunted abortion ban in VA. It's still a purple leaning blue state and it's a 4th circuit state which is much more moderate on that particular issue as it carries red, blue, and purple states. Also, given that Dems overperformed in 2022 and already thus far in 2023, it's not a sure thing that VA Dems don't hold this fall and -for perspective- it's also not a sure thing that Andy Beshear (pro-choice Democrat governor) loses despite the fact KY is nearly Trump + 30.

    It's also not a sure thing the GOP wins the NC governorship next year even though the state will inevitably go red at the presidential level and after the courts and state leg redraw the maps (Cooper can't veto), the GOP will win some US house seats in NC, but the governor's mansion is far from certain. Cooper's favorability rating is surprisingly high for a red/pink state. Cooper is term limited, but he'll have a strong endorsement power of the next Democrat candidate, sort of like how PA's Tom Wolf did of Josh Shapiro.


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    Trump hasn't used Twitter since early January 2021. I fact-checked your post and, no, he actually didn't tweet that:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump



    Last edited by Millennial_Messiah; 04-15-2023 at 12:02 PM.

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    Might be a screen cap of a Truth Social post, did you check there?

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    Trump hasn't used Twitter since early January 2021. I fact-checked your post and, no, he actually didn't tweet that:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump



    N, he didn't tweet that.

    Might be a screen cap of a Truth Social post, did you check there?

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    lol


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    lol

    Desantis blew his chance.

    His best opportunity was to announce his bid months ago, ideally before Trump did, and best spot would have been during his victory speech after he won re-election by 19.6% in early November 2022.

    He just waited too long.

    That's it and that's all.

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    Desantis blew his chance.

    His best opportunity was to announce his bid months ago, ideally before Trump did, and best spot would have been during his victory speech after he won re-election by 19.6% in early November 2022.

    He just waited too long.

    That's it and that's all.
    you bought a lemon.

    MAGA is the GOP mainstream and Trump is the supremo.


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    Desantis blew his chance.

    His best opportunity was to announce his bid months ago, ideally before Trump did, and best spot would have been during his victory speech after he won re-election by 19.6% in early November 2022.

    He just waited too long.

    That's it and that's all.
    There was no way Meatball Ron would have avoided being steamrolled by Trump. All the shtick Trump used on Ron existed long before he could have announced a candidacy.

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