2023 NBA DRAFT

[objective]

think the idea here is they use that cap space from dumping bertans to go get Draymond or somethin

Even if they dumped Bertans with Javale on the Spurs they wouldn't really have any cap room with the holds for Kyrie and Dwight Powell.

Just the mle

[spurraider21]

The “least favorable” can still be as high as #2 the way the protections are. There is considerable upside versus picking #29 (especially when you already have two FRPs you’ll have already made)

yes, if all the protections play out a certain way and then OKC and LAC wind up with exactly the #1 and #2 overall picks. this is not a reasonable way to be looking at the pick.

This is an incredibly stupid thing people keep saying. Next year’s draft doesn’t have Wemby - but trying to say today that it will be weaker than this year’s is just plain dumb. After Wemby, Scoot and the Thompsons, none of the top players in this draft were high on the radar - they emerged during the season, just like they do every year.

im not talking about the top of the draft. the depth of this year's class is unusual.

Another pick they didn’t want that you’re projecting your imaginary crystal ball on. And they still got #40 back - which they may value higher than #32 because they might be able to get #40 into a two-way whereas they couldn’t with #32

There are lessons to be learned from having a glut of picks, but this is far from an L from IND, unless you base it on the ignorant premise that every range in next year’s draft will be worse than this year’s (which requires a crystal ball that you don’t have)

you can play the crystal ball card on anything. i can say that you are a fool to think that wemby will be a very good NBA player because you dont have the crystal ball needed to make that claim.

people make evaluations ahead of time. its called scouting. not everything is just plain hindsight, theres a degree of projection in this. nobody nails everything but there is a general consensus that this year's draft is deep and that there is pessimism as it relates to next year's crop.

[AusSpur]

Bill Simmons mused about this on his podcast, but only as an example of what Dallas could do if Green signaled he’d sign there. Unless it was presented elsewhere, it was a pure example of how they could make the space.

Sometimes Simmons muses on the stuff he is hearing (mostly just talking ).

But add it to Vecenie's comment today in his mock for Dallas' pick 10 position ("If there is a surprise team that tries to e up the board into the top 10 that no one sees coming, the Spurs are a candidate."), and it's a little smoke coming from here.

[Mr. Body]

Sometimes Simmons muses on the stuff he is hearing (mostly just talking ).

But add it to Vecenie's comment today in his mock for Dallas' pick 10 position ("If there is a surprise team that tries to e up the board into the top 10 that no one sees coming, the Spurs are a candidate."), and it's a little smoke coming from here.

The Spurs clearly have the cap space to absorb Bertans or even more. They have future draft capital. They just need something to give Dallas for this year, which they're missing. They did well drafting in the second round last year with Jalen Hardy but the 33 won't do it for item number three.

[spurraider21]

well this almost certainly means portland will be moving that #3 pick, right? guess the hold up is that right now their potential trade partners dont know if that pick will be miller or scoot. should be miller, but hornets look very committed to making the wrong pick

[Mr. Body]

well this almost certainly means portland will be moving that #3 pick, right? guess the hold up is that right now their potential trade partners dont know if that pick will be miller or scoot. should be miller, but hornets look very committed to making the wrong pick

There's word that they're trying to 'thread the needle' by giving Lillard young upcoming players around him like Sharpe, Simons and presumably Scoot. Because that sort of thing worked so well for Golden State and those three players are even close to being able to win games. Lillard is saying he wants veterans around him.

[CGD]

Even if they dumped Bertans with Javale on the Spurs they wouldn't really have any cap room with the holds for Kyrie and Dwight Powell.

Just the mle

The bottom line is that DAL needs bodies too, not just future picks. Not sure we’re a match

[CGD]

There's word that they're trying to 'thread the needle' by giving Lillard young upcoming players around him like Sharpe, Simons and presumably Scoot. Because that sort of thing worked so well for Golden State and those three players are even close to being able to win games. Lillard is saying he wants veterans around him.

Feels like POR would like it to comes from Dame that HE wants out, as opposed to being seen as the ones that wronged the player. And, Dame doesn’t want to be the villain either for whatever reason. This “threading the needle” thing feels more like POR putting the pressure back on Dame.

[Mr. Body]

Feels like POR would like it to comes from Dame that HE wants out, as opposed to being seen as the ones that wronged the player. And, Dame doesn’t want to be the villain either for whatever reason. This “threading the needle” thing feels more like POR putting the pressure back on Dame.

You got to or get off the pot and they're both just ting everywhere.

[exstatic]

The 10 is worth more than just cap space tho.

It’s worth whatever Dallas decides it’s worth.

[Mr. Body]

It’s worth whatever Dallas decides it’s worth.

Which is more than just cap space, lmao.

[exstatic]

Which is more than just cap space, lmao.

In your opinion.

[Mr. Body]

In your opinion.

Yes, Dallas will trade the 10 to get out of Davis Bertans' salary.

[timtonymanu]

Portland is just so dumb, for years it was apparent that Dame and CJ wouldn’t work together so what do they do? Replace him with Simons, another McCollum. Portland doesn’t deserve another shot at keeping lillard anymore.

[exstatic]

Yes, Dallas will trade the 10 to get out of Davis Bertans' salary.

To sign a vet they want? Quite possibly. What’s the real difference if they do a three way deal with us a Golden State for Green or if it’s a trade, then a FA signing? Would you find the three way trade preposterous?

[Degoat]

I absolutely love the draft and will watch the entire thing until the end but it’s gonna be weird that the spurs pick right from the get go at #1 lol not something I’m use to, usually have to wait for ages for our pick

[Mr. Body]

To sign a vet they want? Quite possibly. What’s the real difference if they do a three way deal with us a Golden State for Green or if it’s a trade, then a FA signing? Would you find the three way trade preposterous?

Lol, yes. Ain't nobody giving up a 10 to clear cap space. Did you run your head against a wall?

[wildbill2u]

More trade news today about Porzingis to Celtics. Somebody at ST is going to have to create a new thread just to analyze the trades already announced and figure out how they are going to affect the draft. Of course, no one is going to be perfect, but the thread would be interesting anyway.

[EricB]

And the Porzingis trade is muerte

[SpursFan86]

And the Porzingis trade is muerte

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1...RJS8_UemWCmgcA

Maybe…still being worked out. What a show - glad we’re not involved in this

[exstatic]

Lol, yes. Ain't nobody giving up a 10 to clear cap space. Did you run your head against a wall?

I’m not saying it’s going to happen, I’m saying it’s going to happen if Dallas decides it is. Did you ever think you would see three FRPs traded for one FRP outside of the top 10? Because that happened a year ago.

[Seventyniner]

Even if they dumped Bertans with Javale on the Spurs they wouldn't really have any cap room with the holds for Kyrie and Dwight Powell.

Just the mle

I think the idea is that it would be a sign-and-trade of Draymond to Dallas, with them sending Bertans and McGee to the Spurs for salary matching purposes. The Warriors would get a huge trade exception out of the deal rather than having Draymond walk for nothing.

On second thought, this doesn't work very well. The trade couldn't actually happen until the moratorium is over, while the pick has to be used on draft night. I guess the Spurs could tell Dallas who to pick but I don't think handshake deals are allowed: Dallas could renege and just keep the #10 pick player if they change their mind in the 2 weeks in between.

[Degoat]

As some of you may know, I enjoy speculation lol started falling a bunch of the draft prospects on Instagram and Branham follows Brandin Podziemski now, he hasn’t been following him until now… Probably nothing… But who knows

Not my favorite prospect tbh lol but he offers some intriguing skills

[Dex]

I absolutely love the draft and will watch the entire thing until the end but it’s gonna be weird that the spurs pick right from the get go at #1 lol not something I’m use to, usually have to wait for ages for our pick

Same. Will be interesting to see if we do any other wheeling or dealing, but assuming that's not the case then there is really not much intrigue for us

Not that I'm complaining. It's pretty rare that you have a chance to take the clear-cut, no questions asked #1 pick

[BatManu20]

As some of you may know, I enjoy speculation lol started falling a bunch of the draft prospects on Instagram and Branham follows Brandin Podziemski now, he hasn’t been following him until now… Probably nothing… But who knows

Not my favorite prospect tbh lol but he offers some intriguing skills

Sochan follows him now too. Sochan’s in NYC for the draft too though so I’m sure he’s been kickin’ it with a lot of these young prospects and becoming cool with em this week. Podz did work out for the Spurs I believe. Malaki could’ve been around the facility while they were working him out. Not uncommon for team’s players to watch prospects a scrimmage. Wouldn’t look too much into it tbh.