*** Official Israel vs Hamas war #13783478343 thread ***

[daboom1]

That kinda talk Stout is fine for a message board, but don't try it out in the open. You'll lose your job, on-the-spot.

[daboom1]

hater going ham

hater

[MultiTroll]

-for-Tat...you all threatened to slaughter Trump, his wife and their only child first day on the new job.

Daddy, with me, that changed everything, forever.

Let us proceed...

Madonna made a remark that had and still has you frightened, thus her remark = ok (in your mind) for Hamas to cowardly slaughter complete innocents.

[Extra Stout]

The Wannsee Conference formalised the Nazis’ policy of the extermination of Jews in occupied Europe.

On 20 January 1942, leading Nazi officials met at the Wannsee Conference Villa in Wannsee, a south-western suburb of Berlin. The conference had been called to discuss and coordinate a cheaper, more efficient, and permanent solution to the Nazis’ ‘Jewish problem’. The conference was attended by senior government and SS officials, and coordinated by Reinhard Heydrich .

At the meeting, Heydrich gave a review of Nazis’ Jewish policy, highlighting the recent (September-October 1941) removal of the Jews from the German Reich, and framing it as a temporary solution to the larger Jewish problem.

The final plan for the eleven million Jews in remaining in Europe, as laid out by Heydrich, was to utilise them for work in the east on road works. Those who could not work, or became unable to work after a period of time, would be subject to special treatment. The Nazis used the term ‘special treatment’ as a euphemism for murder.

At the conference, there was also some discussion on the methods of mass murder, although concrete plans were not established. Experiments in using gas as a method of mass murder had already taken place at Chełmno in December 1941, but this was not mentioned and no one method was agreed upon within the meeting.

The meeting lasted approximately two hours.

Whilst the exact methods of mass murder were not laid out in this meeting, it played a significant role in coordinating the Nazis’ genocidal actions. The policy of annihilation to be taken against Jews was made extremely clear by the Nazi leadership. By the end of 1942, six extermination camps were in operation.

[pgardn]

Madonna made a remark that had and still has you frightened, thus her remark = ok (in your mind) for Hamas to cowardly slaughter complete innocents.

Holy I got it even with having Thread on ignore.
Only in the wrong thread.
Maybe this is not a good thing… nah it is… I got ‘em pegged.
Same old stupid stuff. Nothing to read or see.

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Holy I got it even with having Thread on ignore.
Only in the wrong thread.
Maybe this is not a good thing… nah it is… I got ‘em pegged.
Same old stupid stuff. Nothing to read or see.

Though you do sneak in a few hours of an early morning with old Dale when the fellows are sleepin. tee, hee.

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Madonna made a remark that had and still has you frightened, thus her remark = ok (in your mind) for Hamas to cowardly slaughter complete innocents.

Not frightened, no, Mult. Absolutely outraged---and not that she threatened it, but that she walked, Scot free.

Now? Yeah, if it's Jake for Madonna, it's certainly Jake for Ham. You GD rights, Mult.

[Winehole23]

unconfirmed reports of paraglider/drone attacks in northern Israel.

false alarm

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-a-false-alarm

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This all started back in the 1800’s when Britain was envious of the Russian and French spheres of influence in the Ottoman Empire and sought to carve out its own.

The polity of the Ottomans was organized not just geographically, but by ethnicity and religion. Orthodox Christians had their own sub-government, as did Catholics. They also allowed expats in their territory their own sub-governments aligned to their native country. This created an opportunity for the Russians to carve out economic and diplomatic influence by appointing themselves the protectors of the Orthodox Christians. The French followed suit with the Catholics.

The British wanted to play, too, but there really weren’t any Anglicans or other Protestants to speak of. So with their draft pick they selected the Jews. And since more Jews in the Ottoman Empire meant more influence, they became enthusiastic sponsors of Zionism.

Dispensationalism was invented about this same time. Since it aligned with British foreign policy, it was tolerated and even promoted in the Church of England, and through the Scofield Study Bible, eventually spread to the United States where it became the dominant view in American Protestantism.

Fast forward to the end of World War I. The Ottoman Empire collapsed, and the victorious British and French carved up the Levant under “mandates.” The British took control of the Holy Land with promises to set up independent states that quite frankly they never intended to honor. I guess they imagined in their hubris that the Jewish settlers and Arabs would be so enamored of enlightened British rule that they never would agitate for independence. Instead, they constantly agitated.

The Balfour Declaration says nothing about a Jewish state, but rather only a “national home” for the Jews. All along, this was intended to be under British control.

Fast forward to the end of World War II. The British, exhausted from fighting the Nazis, no longer can afford their empire. They need to cut and run from their most restive territories — India and Palestine. So they concoct half-baked par ion schemes that result in massive ethnic cleansing. In Palestine, they use their friends in the nearly created UN to cover for them with a story that the Jews deserve their own state because of the Holocaust. There is a whole dog-and-pony show to pretend that other territories were considered. The point all along was to get Britain out of there.

In the United States, where Dispensationalism had taken hold, American Protestants supported the creation of Israel, believing from the get-go that it represented fulfillment of prophecy and advancement toward the return of Jesus Christ. Evangelical influence, along with American support for Britain, explains America’s enthusiastic support for creating Israel.

It was not that the Brits could not afford their empire so much as much of their empire had been occupied by other powers and wanted out of the colonial subordinate game.

Essentially, the Brits were given complete control over the ME after WW1. There had been a deal with Russia to give them Constantinople in return for their support. They would have been the other player in the region but Lenin happened and he was busy killing Ukrainians right about then. That left the Brits in Ankara and Alexandria and despite Italian and German best efforts they were never removed.

They kept the Ottoman state maps and shoehorned Israel into the land of the Philistines.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Thought this was well done the whole way through.

[ChumpDumper]

The Nazis never originally planned to exterminate the Jews. They intended to exile them to Siberia once Russia was conquered. But then the Soviet invasion bogged down, and they’d already made promises to the German people to render German territory Judenfrei, so…

Timing is a little off but basically true. Hitler, Himmler, Goering, Heydrich, et.al., talked themselves into total extermination over the summer and fall of 1941. After the US entered the war, Hitler made his wishes for extermination clear and the Wansee conference in January 1942 formalized the plan.

If anyone hasn't caught the movie Conspiracy about Wansee, it's a must-see.

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Timing is a little off but basically true. Hitler, Himmler, Goering, Heydrich, et.al., talked themselves into total extermination over the summer and fall of 1941. After the US entered the war, Hitler made his wishes for extermination clear and the Wansee conference in January 1942 formalized the plan.

If anyone hasn't caught the movie Conspiracy about Wansee, it's a must-see.

Well, if it's a movie, it's got ta be true.

[hater]

The Wannsee Conference formalised the Nazis’ policy of the extermination of Jews in occupied Europe.

On 20 January 1942, leading Nazi officials met at the Wannsee Conference Villa in Wannsee, a south-western suburb of Berlin. The conference had been called to discuss and coordinate a cheaper, more efficient, and permanent solution to the Nazis’ ‘Jewish problem’. The conference was attended by senior government and SS officials, and coordinated by Reinhard Heydrich .

At the meeting, Heydrich gave a review of Nazis’ Jewish policy, highlighting the recent (September-October 1941) removal of the Jews from the German Reich, and framing it as a temporary solution to the larger Jewish problem.

The final plan for the eleven million Jews in remaining in Europe, as laid out by Heydrich, was to utilise them for work in the east on road works. Those who could not work, or became unable to work after a period of time, would be subject to special treatment. The Nazis used the term ‘special treatment’ as a euphemism for murder.

At the conference, there was also some discussion on the methods of mass murder, although concrete plans were not established. Experiments in using gas as a method of mass murder had already taken place at Chełmno in December 1941, but this was not mentioned and no one method was agreed upon within the meeting.

The meeting lasted approximately two hours.

Whilst the exact methods of mass murder were not laid out in this meeting, it played a significant role in coordinating the Nazis’ genocidal actions. The policy of annihilation to be taken against Jews was made extremely clear by the Nazi leadership. By the end of 1942, six extermination camps were in operation.

Still waiting on evidence that battle of britain changed their minds.

Also exterminating all jews could have been the plan all along. Just not made public till later.

Thats more believable IMO based on Hitlers speeches. Books.

[hater]

Elon

[hater]

Yet another embassy might be evacuated by Joe soon

Joe

[hater]

A protracted war in Gaza will be a colossal drain on Israel’s resources and can only weaken the country. Its outcome remains anybody’s guess. But on the other hand, Israel believes that it has no diplomatic options, either. On top of it, if Hezbollah enters the fray, all that happened last Saturday in Israel will seem a picnic. With its massive stockpile of advanced missiles — close to 200,000 rockets trained on virtually every nook and corner of Israel — Hezbollah has the capability to destroy Israel comprehensively.

https://www.indianpunchline.com/iran...ocalyptic-war/

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Elon

At least it ain't July. Though do those people even know that A/C exists?

[Thread]

A protracted war in Gaza will be a colossal drain on Israel’s resources and can only weaken the country. Its outcome remains anybody’s guess. But on the other hand, Israel believes that it has no diplomatic options, either. On top of it, if Hezbollah enters the fray, all that happened last Saturday in Israel will seem a picnic. With its massive stockpile of advanced missiles — close to 200,000 rockets trained on virtually every nook and corner of Israel — Hezbollah has the capability to destroy Israel comprehensively.

https://www.indianpunchline.com/iran...ocalyptic-war/

Please, America is going to underwrite it just like we're underwriting the Nazi's in Z'land.

We'll just leave a marker with both Z & yahoo that is deemed recoverable upon demand. Blinken thru Biden:::"And we ain't in' around, nor asking twice when we present payment due. Is that fully understood?"

It's understood.

But for Americans..."Go yourself till Election Day. Now git!......And don't forget Election Day!"

American Democracy, indeed."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Wannsee Conference formalised the Nazis’ policy of the extermination of Jews in occupied Europe.

On 20 January 1942, leading Nazi officials met at the Wannsee Conference Villa in Wannsee, a south-western suburb of Berlin. The conference had been called to discuss and coordinate a cheaper, more efficient, and permanent solution to the Nazis’ ‘Jewish problem’. The conference was attended by senior government and SS officials, and coordinated by Reinhard Heydrich .

At the meeting, Heydrich gave a review of Nazis’ Jewish policy, highlighting the recent (September-October 1941) removal of the Jews from the German Reich, and framing it as a temporary solution to the larger Jewish problem.

The final plan for the eleven million Jews in remaining in Europe, as laid out by Heydrich, was to utilise them for work in the east on road works. Those who could not work, or became unable to work after a period of time, would be subject to special treatment. The Nazis used the term ‘special treatment’ as a euphemism for murder.

At the conference, there was also some discussion on the methods of mass murder, although concrete plans were not established. Experiments in using gas as a method of mass murder had already taken place at Chełmno in December 1941, but this was not mentioned and no one method was agreed upon within the meeting.

The meeting lasted approximately two hours.

Whilst the exact methods of mass murder were not laid out in this meeting, it played a significant role in coordinating the Nazis’ genocidal actions. The policy of annihilation to be taken against Jews was made extremely clear by the Nazi leadership. By the end of 1942, six extermination camps were in operation.

Hitler was pretty clear where his views were at in Mein Kompf. He promoted and facilitated Himmler right as he came into power.

There initial plan was to deport them and then when they decided they were going to take over the world and invaded Poland and Russia they implemented the Final Solution.

Saying they initially planned to only deport them at first misses the point.

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Yet another embassy might be evacuated by Joe soon

Joe

Amen.

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Hitler was pretty clear where his views were at in Mein Kompf. He promoted and facilitated Himmler right as he came into power.

There initial plan was to deport them and then when they decided they were going to take over the world and invaded Poland and Russia they implemented the Final Solution.

Saying they initially planned to only deport them at first misses the point.

Damn, Russia for sure showed 'em where the bear in the buckwheat, eh, Lumps?

[Blake]

Elon

Gosh what a humanitarian

[Thread]

false alarm

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...-a-false-alarm

Everybody is running as fast as they can to cover their asses. Nobody wants to give up those paychecks and pensions, be on a bread line. Uh, uh.

[scott]

You're one of the few posters left who can appreciate that 2012 Wild Cobra takes are mainstream GOP patter now.

Wild Cobra/MadeFromDust 2024. Fire up the ticket!

[hater]