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    Zach was good his first year or two after getting over all the injuries that had ac ulated (in Portland). He just couldn't handle an increased role or higher expectations which is really, really disappointing for him and the team.

    He also had the issue of not being good as a full-time center or as a 'stretch 4.' It sucks cause had his shooting and defense not fallen off then his passing (in the high-post) could still be extremely useful.

    Not to mention his 'fake tough' antics that always came back to bite him in the ass cause he's (literally) not built like that. I hope can figure it out elsewhere and stick around in the NBA cause he seemed like a good guy/teammate.

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    By no means am I a Zollins fan , and to be fair he did have some skills - just not 17 million dollars worth of skills. I wonder who the dumbass in the spurs front office that offered him that contract. In many cases like this, its always about the money.

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    I remember his first two weeks as a Spur... came out guns blazing. Rebounds, hustle plays, post-play and the occasionally stretch 4/5 three pointer. Walmart Jokic stat-stuffer.

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    Zollins with near triple double against LAC

    21 pts 17 rebs 7 asts 2 stls

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    He's finally found a home, good for Zach. He was a good soldier (when he wasn't flipping off refs)

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    Darn! I knew he was capable. Good for him. It's good to see guys perform that the Spurs traded (don't want the trades to look too lopsided) as it'll make other teams more willing to trade with the Spurs.

    Having said that, I wonder how Zach would have looked the rest of the season (if he was still with the Spurs) now that Victor is out for the season.

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    Darn! I knew he was capable. Good for him. It's good to see guys perform that the Spurs traded (don't want the trades to look too lopsided) as it'll make other teams more willing to trade with the Spurs.

    Having said that, I wonder how Zach would have looked the rest of the season (if he was still with the Spurs) now that Victor is out for the season.
    I can tell you that with this coaching he would look him usual self waving towel on the bench.

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    Darn! I knew he was capable. Good for him. It's good to see guys perform that the Spurs traded (don't want the trades to look too lopsided) as it'll make other teams more willing to trade with the Spurs.

    Having said that, I wonder how Zach would have looked the rest of the season (if he was still with the Spurs) now that Victor is out for the season.


    It means no Sochan at backup C

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    Like most of the Spurs this season he was handicapped by a lack of offensive structure.

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    He still sucks I’m glad he’s gone

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    Not sure how but Zollins has pretty good advanced stats this season.

    WS/48:136
    BPM: 0.2
    ORTG: 122 DRTG: 114

    Go figure.

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    Not sure how but Zollins has pretty good advanced stats this season.

    WS/48:136
    BPM: 0.2
    ORTG: 122 DRTG: 114

    Go figure.
    It’s almost like he’s not as bad as people here think he is…

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    It’s almost like he’s not as bad as people here think he is…
    I was leaning towards small sample size anomaly. Zollins looked bad this season with weak counting stats.

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    It’s almost like he’s not as bad as people here think he is…
    He sucks.

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    Good for him, seems like he's turning the corner these past two games.

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    Not sure how but Zollins has pretty good advanced stats this season.

    WS/48:136
    BPM: 0.2
    ORTG: 122 DRTG: 114

    Go figure.
    objectively good tbh

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    I doubt he will be in the league next year. He's playing for NBL next year.

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    I was leaning towards small sample size anomaly. Zollins looked bad this season with weak counting stats.
    A nod to the flaw of counting stats. Two players both score 20ppg. One takes 18 shots, and rarely gets to the line. The other takes 14 shots, and lives at the line. Are they equally valuable?

    It’s like the Bowen/Kobe dynamic. Bruce never really shut down Kobe. What he did was make him work like a dog to get his usual points by focusing on scoring instead of scoring AND playmaking. Those extra shots he needed to get his points were shots that didn’t go to his usual support players like Fish and Horry. Bowen made their whole team less efficient by making Kobe less efficient, but if you looked at the box score, he got his usual points.

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    He might have a chance to return to end-of-career Gorgui Deing levels of impact. Objectively good.


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    Small sample but this is what happens when limited (role) players have a clear role. They don’t have to think too much, do what limited few things they had to do and just focus on those.

    The spurs need a system. Get the most out of these limited guys and at least get the sum of the parts.

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    In the end, Zach Collins was not a culture fit

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    Im more convinced than ever that we need a new coaching staff.
    We also need to continue to add veteran role players.
    Collins still sucks but he has some usable traits that we never used here.

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    Small sample but this is what happens when limited (role) players have a clear role. They don’t have to think too much, do what limited few things they had to do and just focus on those.

    The spurs need a system. Get the most out of these limited guys and at least get the sum of the parts.
    Yeah, more and more, it's clear to me our biggest issue is coaching, followed by roster construction.

    We need a roster that allows for (good) coaching to maximize our role player contributions. We've built a roster that feels very Nellie-ball oriented without any of the stuff (like dribble drives from multiple position, great passing from a point forward/center type though Wemby could fill this role if the roster was better, and a score of ace shooters) that makes a Nellie-ball style work.

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    Collins is ok but his main flaws of inadequate rim protection and poor 3 PT shooting remain.

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    Collins is ok but his main flaws of inadequate rim protection and poor 3 PT shooting remain.
    Agree’d. The concerning early takeaway is that Collins looks like an actual NBA player with the Bulls but didn’t with the Spurs. The question is why.

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