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it isn't over yet, btw
The whole story was dumb. You just needed to think
it isn't over yet, btw
walk us through it, profe
I just visit this place occasionally to see what fake news is circulating. Later
What is fake?
There was no order to kill everyone?
Or there was no order for a second strike?
Or it was given just not by Hegseth?
Pick a lane.
oh, you have nothing topical to share
what a surprise
have you read your Trump's late night social media meltdown?
All of you sure shut the up about that.
*just dropping in to call other posters dummies*
(irl DarrinS apparently doesn't have better things to do)
(nor anything to comment on, though that would be just as easy as ing about posts/posters)
42,000 posts
"I just visit"
I mean their Trump posted so long and hard all night he couldn't stay awake at his own fluffing session today.
No comment from his ing loser brigade here.
None of them want to talk about the politics
Conservative idpol is very unpopular and they know it
and Trump wasting away physically and mentally before our eyes can only be ignored for so long
Trump's on the wrong side of a 75-25 popular split on war in Venezuela
lolol
TSA - gotta be a professional russkie troll....no in way he didn't just twist himself into a pretzel again to defend kegs-breath and then the cherry on top was throwing out the "you are stupid- can't believe you fell for it again" gem....
and what about that "kegs-breath warrior ethos!"
hahahahahahahahaha!
Going great.
https://x.com/AaronBlake/status/1996274078445941141
Hegseth used an unapproved device
Hegseth failed to keep a record of the conversation
Hegseth refused to cooperate with the Pentagon IG
...and refused to hand over his phone
(the growing discomfort of Republican Senators should be concerning for Hegseth)
Do you deliberately come here to spread disinformation or are you just so stupid that you fall for it every, single, time?
Andat referring to designated terrorists in a stateless flagless boat running narcotics as "castaways and injured swimmers"
If this board wasn't so dead and there were more than five people here to embarrass you in front of I'd take the time to insert every bluesky screen shot and link you posted into the below to show how you fell for this every single step of the way. Strange how your constant updates stopped once the NYT piece broke.
Long explainer:
Let’s examine the emerging “scapegoat” narrative, because it demonstrates the true objective of the Democrat/Regime Media/Fredocon axis - to hurt Trump politically and to stop the changing of the Pentagon from a leftist-supporting social pathology Petri dish back into a patriotic war-fighting force that can effectively prevent the eventual color revolution they are working toward.
At the threshold, let’s understand that there was nothing illegal here. Even under the facts as alleged, which change as they keep shifting the goalposts, there was no violation of the law of war. There was no violation of any Geneva Convention, not least because no Geneva Convention applies here. So, everything I say here is simply taking their story du jour and testing it to see if it makes internal sense. It does not, because it’s all baloney. They don’t care. It’s the lie that’s important.
So, just last week, we had a bunch of Democrats claiming they were just helpfully explaining to our troops that our troops cannot follow illegal orders. The whole basis is that you were going to be issued an illegal order by some Trump higher-up, and that you should disobey it because it’s illegal. This was part of a narrative to tee-up the current fake scandal.
Then, after a Democrat-imported jihadi s bag murdered a soldier and wounded another, they had to accelerate their narrative and get that embarrassing fact off the front page. So, last Friday, the Washington Post dropped a story by a reporter who has lied about Russiagate, the Hunter Biden laptop, and other anti-Trump hoaxes. This story allegedly has two anonymous sources offering double hearsay that Pete Hegseth gave an order to kill all the narco terrorists in a strike. The operation commander, a SEAL admiral, then gave the order for a first and a second attack on the ship. That was the meat of the story – Pete was personally responsible for ordering the deaths of allegedly helpless narco terrorists.
The Pentagon immediately denied that the story, as a whole, was true. Remember, the gist of the story is that Pete personally ordered the deaths of these drug mules. The regime media and Democrats either claimed that the Pentagon was not denying the story or simply rejected the denials.
The Twitter experts – the ones who suddenly became epidemiologists when Covid hit and economists when Trump imposed tariffs – suddenly became experts in the law of armed conflict. They pointed out that you’re not allowed to kill a shipwrecked enemy. But they didn’t point out that you are allowed to re-attack a vessel that hasn’t sunk yet. There’s no one-shot rule. Between a combination of ignorance and deliberate deception, they’ve tried to erase that.
Well, then the New York Times published an article saying that Pete Hegseth did not personally order the second attack. That attack order came from the operation commander. The original article alleged that Hegseth ordered them all to be killed regardless of their status. Karoline Leavitt at the White House told the press substantially the same thing as the NYT
Well, that revelation was inconvenient to the narrative. Remember, the narrative isn’t about killing drug dealers. It’s about Pete Hegseth personally ordering the killing of them in a way that’s illegal. Now, the facts indicate that Pete Hegseth didn’t do this. He didn’t give the order to kill them. The admiral gave the order to attack the vessel a second time because it was not completely destroyed.
But that doesn’t help their narrative. It needs to be Pete Hegseth. They don’t want some admiral – that doesn’t meet their objective, and normal people are going to look at it and side with the admiral. So, what to do? Well, accuse Pete Hegseth of throwing the Admiral under the bus. Of course, what that would mean is that he is shifting his responsibility onto the admiral. But wait – the NYT says that Pete didn’t have any responsibility to begin with. Further, the Democrats just got through telling us that we shouldn’t obey illegal orders. If anyone should, an admiral should certainly know what an illegal order is.
But let me emphasize, the admiral did nothing wrong. Again, I’m simply charting the internal inconsistencies of this bogus hit on Pete Hegseth.
Now, they are also going with another argument. That is that the entire mission is illegal. They have decided, without support, that it is unlawful for us to destroy enemies who are not part of a nation-state's army from bringing poison into the United States. Now, if they were bringing mus gas, instead of fentanyl and cocaine, presumably it would be OK to kill them – or maybe not under their logic.
But there’s no free pass. That’s because it’s not the law. They are unlawful combatants, and we can kill them on the high seas. This is why there are no pirates or slavers in the Atlantic. We killed them pursuant to the law. The law has not changed; apparently, we’re only allowed to avail ourselves of the parts of the law that they misinterpret to limit our capacity to defend ourselves, rather than the parts that enable us to defend ourselves from people who kill nearly 100,000 Americans a year
So, that’s where we are. Under the facts as alleged, Pete Hegseth didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t give this kill order. As a result, the haters have had to shift their arguments. The problem is that their previous arguments about illegal orders have trapped them. If they argue that the entire operation is unlawful, or even that the second strike is unlawful, it would mean that the admiral and the dozens, maybe hundreds, of military people involved are all committing more crimes by giving or following a legal order.
That’s not what they want. They don’t want the admiral or any of the soldiers. They want Pete Hegseth, and now they can’t have him. So, they’re going to throw the whole illegal orders thing out the window and try to change the subject to accusing Hegseth of shifting the blame that he doesn’t bear to the admiral, who, under their theory, does bear it.
Yes, it’s totally inconsistent. No, it doesn’t make any sense. But that’s not its purpose. It has nothing to do with what the facts or evidence, or law say or require. It’s a political hit job designed to get rid of Pete Hegseth and replacing with somebody pliable – many of us know who they prefer - and hurt Trump. Don’t buy into it.
https://x.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1995848544033317255
It's amazing how dedicated the 4 remaining active posters here are. I can't wait to come back here one day and see winehole23 all by himself still posting and quoting himself. It's not too far off
Is this war?
Are we at war with Venezuela?
On Sept 2 no "war" had been declared yet, there was no way for the boat to know it was in a war zone
Nor was it waging war on the US under any but the most tortured definition
He deserves to get fired. Instead, he'll get promoted somehow.
Smh "potentially"
Yeah it's amazing how most of the Trump lovers have distanced themselves from this place. I wonder why.It's amazing how dedicated the 4 remaining active posters here are. I can't wait to come back here one day and see winehole23 all by himself still posting and quoting himself. It's not too far off
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