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Pop and Spurs need to make decision quick. Bud, Jenkins and Malone wont be available too long
Meh. If Pop is not back, Mitch will be the coach. They’ll just bolster the bench with better assistants (former head coaching experience).
My preference would be to bring Will Hardy back. Unfortunately not available. Need a young coach to grow with team. Not old retreads that keep getting fired and hired.
Bringing Ime back would have been nice too. But too late there as well.
Pop and Spurs need to make decision quick. Bud, Jenkins and Malone wont be available too long
I just hope Pop and this franchise does the right thing and doesn't keep this team held in limbo with uncertainties especially with a few good available coaches to chose from.
Having this hanging over a young building team thats looking to find their course and iden y on the road to become a compe ive team is probably the worst time to have it .
We all know the diddering old fool isn't going to give up the reigns on this franchise. He's going to try to come back, so we'll miss out on both coaches. Then in September they will announce he's still not ready to return to the bench and we'll get more Mitch the . There's no leadership for this franchise, Holt and Dell are going to defer to our geriatric stroke patient.
I have got to say this year did it for me with regards to PATFO, used to be a hard believer, but looking back, ever since the nephew LMA incidents, Pop has just lost all fire in driving for an excellent organization. Nothing wrong with enjoying life and focusing that life is more about basketball, but ultimately this is your job, and there is a certain level of professionalism that is expected from people doing their jobs. I love my life more than my job too, but when I am at work I do my best to make sure the work product that comes out meets or exceeds expectations, not because I wanted a promotion or higher pay, but that is what I should do, it's called being professional.
The players have not improved at all year after year. I am sick of being excited about a new rookie every year, then see him flat line, or more often, progressively worse year after year. We saw it with Keldon, saw it with Vassell, saw it with Sochan, Wemby flatlined, and now we are all excited about Castle. Champaigne and Sochan were off to really good starts this year, and then these weird rotations and roles visibly just messed them up, and then they gave back whatever they gained right before our eyes. Wemby was playing like a man possessed for a short time before Christmas, then just crashed hard after that. Was it the DVT? I am not sure, but he wasn't lighting things on fire to start the season either. In fact, his sop re year and rookie seasons were almost identical statistically in terms of per 36 and per 100 possession. He cut down on turnovers, shot way more 3s, had way less FTs, and that's it. He became a worse rebounder because he is out in the perimeter all day, he is more efficient because he nailed way more 3s at a higher rate than the year before, his offensive rebound rate crashed. I just refuse to admit that someone as talented as Wemby saw this minuscule level of improvement in a year. What gives?
I am very excited about Castle's rookie year, but I am not holding my breath to see him make a giant leap in year 2 or beyond. There is no direction from the organization, no development. Basically whatever player you are in your rookie is your peak, which is just disgusting.
I am sick of this. PATFO has got to go, there is no other way to put it. The development of young players is absolutely atrocious, and the offensive and defensive schemes are purely incomprehensible.
I love Pop and am very thankful for everything he did for this franchise, but if I'm Holt Pop either steps down this week or I fire him and go out and get Jenkins.
Welcome to the Former Sniffers Club. It's nice in here, come on it... I've saved you a seat.
Tbh, I think it's just a "Pop needs to retire" club right now instead of an anti-PATFO club.
Wright has proven his worth with good deals both as a seller and a buyer, he obviously doesn't have the power to get rid of Pop.
Coaching staff also goes back to Pop, can't fire or hire anyone without his approval.
I just hate it when all-time greats can't accept when it's enough and overstay their welcome. Pop doesn't deserve to go out as a loser, but if we miss out on Jenkins it's going to be fully on him.
Holt can fire him, but it would be a bad look.
Pop either needs to step down or we need the doctors to tell him he can't coach anymore.
Can’t believe he hasn’t stepped down yet
He can't even wipe his own ass yet
It would be poetic justice if Pop fired himself, just as he hired himself.
Welcome back, Coach Bud
Honestly the astronauts meme of "always has been" fits really well here.
Besides some very specific moves/non-moves that were blown out of proportion by Spurstalk (Scola......), most fans' gripe with the Spurs has always mostly been related to Pop specifically, and the "FO" more insofar as they allow Pop such freedom/authority. From pulling Timmy out for that rebound, to his "leftist" comments in the media, to his "life is more important than basketball" mantra and trying to influence players.... It's always been more "P" than "FO" in the "PATFO" moniker.
As you say, Wright is well-regarded by most if not all Spurs fans, and RC has also always had a good rep as a GM. And the Spurs' success historically speaks for itself of course.
I'd go as far as saying that I've come to wonder who people think is behind "FO" whenever they criticize PATFO. Like Buford is one name/face that everyone knows, but who's besides that? A front office is not one or two guys. You seldom hear anything about that despite the constant (not so much now) bashing of "PATFO" here.
I said years ago that Pop is basically what post-achilles Kobe was for the Lakers
And by the way, I'll join in on the "insane that this hasn't been taken care of yet" crowd.
Who the is actually hoping for Pop to return to the sidelines again in the Spurs FO? The legitimate risk of him having another stroke, or neurological incident, during a live ing NBA game possibly on National TV, in the year 2025 with cameras absolutely everywhere........
Like it's a disservice to even Pop himself; I would never want a video or event to surface of him "breaking down" so to speak. And it's completely, utterly unpredictable. I said it two months ago - no sane doctor should ever clear a man of Pop's age and history for the gruesome job of being an NBA coach.
It's really looking like the classic "nobody has the heart to put down the family pet" situation here. Hopefully this influx of coaches on the market is the "hint" that everyone's been expecting or hoping for.
Well, the acronym is PATFO and not TFOAP for a reason. And indeed, the FO part of the equation has had moving parts over the one years... the P has always been the constant and it comes first.
It's like if you heard someone talking about how they think Huey Lewis and the News sucks... it's probably not because of Bill Gibson's drumming (and yes, I had to look that up).
Do we get Bud back for corporate knowledge now and ready to take the reigns from Pop whenever?
Coach Bud would be my choice but they didnt ask me. If they decide to keep Mitch that would be ok I guess. I think Pop is the GOAT but he has to understand Father Time waits for nobody. Somebody put the call in to Nancy Pelosi.
Meh. I'm still out on Wright cause he hasn't done anything great except for the easy things and things that fell in his lap.
Tore the team down for 1st round picks. Easiest thing to do when you don't care about winning.
Drafted Victor. Again a no brainer decision. And all Wright did is what 10 other GM's did to try and get Victor, tank, and he was just the one lucky enough to win it.
Fox trade. Fox and Rich Paul told teams that the Spurs were his preferred team and that even if they traded for him and got his bird rights he would still walk to SA after next season. This allowed Wright to essential give the Kings nothing, knowing other teams were not going to put in strong offers for Fox. Can't give him credit for this one either since the player and the players agent made it as easy as possible to trade for him.
This is the first off season where Wright isn't playing with the cards in his favor. He has Fox and Wemby now, and possibly the ROY on a path to s om, so no excuse for not making the playoffs next year. He is going to have to get some real veteran talent on this team now since it has been proven time and time again that the Keldon's, Devin's, and Sochan's of the world are not winning players. Let's see what he does now when all the stars don't perfectly align for him.
He traded Kawhi under duress, and got Poeltl and DeRozan in return, as well as the Keldon pick. Fast forward, and het gets POSITIVE ASSETS in a sign and trade of DeRozan to Chicago, a FRP, and Thad Young, who he later flips for another FRP that became Wesley. Fast forward again, and he flips Poeltl BACK to Toronto for a FRP that coveys last year at #8, and is traded to Minny for an unprotected 20131 FRP.
He then trades some spare parts, the Chicago pick and the unprotected Minny pick for De’Aaron Fox. Over a period from 2018 to 2025, he slow traded a broken Kawhi Leonard for De’Aaron Fox. That’s someone with game.
This is also not the first summer he isn’t playing with the cards in his favor. That pretty much describes EVERY summer, post Kawhi, except the last two, drafting Wemby and Castle.
Wow, Popovich sacrifices the good of the team for his ego? This is my shocked face:
But who will replace Bill Schoening though?
Worth noting that RC was GM at the time of the Kawhi trade, and the drafting of Keldon (and Luka!). Wright became GM in July of 2019. He may or may not have been the architect behind those moves, I have no clue... just clarifying when the Wright era officially began.
Supposedly, the Kawhi trade was his final exam as asst. GM. He did the whole deal. Of course, this was speculation and rumors. Spurs never actually announce stuff like that.
Sorry guys, got carried away. Didn’t mean to bash pop as the love and appreciation for what he did will always be there. Seeing the spurs being a franchise that was just good enough in the regular season to never even coming close to ringing in the 80s and 90s to this franchise of excellence for 20 years is something I will always be grateful as a fan. I still love pop for what he did but the time has passed.
Pop has to see that he is ruining the careers of some young promising players for his own ego, which is opposite to what he has always preached. Stay home, play with your grandkids, fhe young players still have a bright future ahead of them.
Keldon always play hard, skills may not be there but the heart is and he has a role in the league. Sochan may never be able to score but he does play hard on defence and plays whatever role you throw him at. Vassell can be a scorer on a bad team, champaigne expanded his game this year, defends well, shoots decent, can put the ball on the ball somewhat, can pass decently now. Mamu can shoot and has an insane motor. Wesley can defend and his passing is showing promise, I believe he can be a good 3rd or even 2nd string PG. Malaki …. Ummm, he has nice shoes ….. these kids still have a future, pop has to realize he is standing in the way and can jeopardize these kids futures. Let it go.
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