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So does Etan Thomas.
Might even get the Wiz under the cap this summer.
The Wiz's coach hates Haywood.
So does Etan Thomas.
Might even get the Wiz under the cap this summer.
hey, the Hawks would finally get a SF!
Yeah, I don't think there is any way that Barry and Beno's play in the last couple weeks has hurt the Spurs' chances of landing Maggette. At the time this trade was first talked about, Barry was the hottest shooter in the NBA and Beno was the guy with unknown potential.
Now Barry is back to being the Barry the Spurs know all too well and Beno has just gotten worse and worse. If I'm the Clippers, I laugh at an offer of Barry, Beno and a first round draft pick. I'd rather keep an unhappy Maggette.
But to say that the Clippers' scouts are robots who only look at the big picture is a little naive. Of course they tuned in to see how well those two players were playing. And when they were the two worst players on the court in recent games, it had to make LA rethink the trade. Especially considering one of the key components of the trade is a 35-year-old swingman ... and that type of player at that age can be useful one day and the next day they can wake up and their career can be over.
I'd say 10% is close for right now. The Clippers are the type of team that would shoot down rumors in the media ... so that this rumor has swirled for a while and the Clippers have remained quiet, that's a little bit of a good sign. Plus Ludden isn't one to make things up and with Bonner's name coming up, that sounds like there are ongoing talks.
But yeah, there's 90% chance that another team steps up with a better offer or the Clippers decide to keep him and deal him at a later point.
The two deals of my dreams :
a) Barry + Bonner + second choices = Maggette (Beno is not of a big interest now that Cassell came back and playing good:; and he has another season of contract)
b) Udrih + E. Williams + Butler + second choices = Chandler (Chandler is overpaid 'cause he demostrated he's not a star - no offensive game at all - and is closing the chance of H. Armstrong emerging...but is a beast in defense and rebounding - and that's what we need).
The "heat" builds with every malcontent comment in the press, every sub-par performance, and every DNP for nagging injuries. I'm sure the Clips would like to wait until the deadline b/c that's when GMs go in panic mode, but if he continues not to help this team and they keep losing, the Clippers FO might be forced to do something early. I guess only time will tell...
yes, we are somehow desperate, but not the most desperate team in the league.
compared to stone hand Haywood even Nazr would look like a superb ball handler.
yes Nazr, who has a compareable contract and is better than Haywood, but not good enough for the Spurs (for this kind of money) and who is - other than Haywood- not a completly moron.
btw. remember the fight of girly Brenda Haywood with Antonio Davis?
It might not be worth mentioning since the Maggette-Spurs saga is probably over, but Maggs is playing tonight vs. the T-Wolves and happens to be leading them with 13 points.
It's never over until the trade deadline.
This team is LIFELESS. It desparately needs a spark. And with 9 players of 30 years of age (as the ESPN graphic indicated), this team also needs an infusion of a younger, quicker, more athletic player - DESPARATELY.
I believe he made the game winning basket and finished with 21pts on 11/11 FT's tonight.
Not worth Brent and Beno though
Beno Udrih < Steve Smith
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...ck=1&cset=true
MINNEAPOLIS — Is it too late for Corey Maggette and the Clippers to resolve their differences and stay together?
Reconciliation might be best for both sides, especially considering how Maggette performed Wednesday night in a 92-91 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves in front of 14,223 at the Target Center.
In his most efficient performance of the season, Maggette scored 21 points off the bench and made a 17-foot jumper in the right corner to put the Clippers ahead with only 4.8 seconds remaining in the game.
Timberwolves All-Star power forward Kevin Garnett (19 points, 17 rebounds, four blocked shots) missed a 16-foot shot to the left of the foul line and Shaun Livingston grabbed the rebound as time expired, completing the Clippers' best outing on the road to this point.
The Clippers also got 21 points from Elton Brand and 18 points and five assists from Sam Cassell, which helped them to overcome the loss of center Chris Kaman, who scored 12 points but didn't play late in the game because of an ankle injury.
The Clippers (17-19) finished 3-3 on the 10-day trip but closed strong with victories against the New Orleans Hornets and Timberwolves (17-16), who had won four in a row.
After sitting out the previous two games because of a foot injury, Maggette provided the boost the Clippers needed to finally get a road victory over a team with a winning record that was at full strength.
Maggette's agent has requested that the Clippers trade the seven-year veteran, and the team has pursued potential deals. But sometimes breaking up isn't the right thing to do.
"All the speculation and all the trade talk aside, when Corey Maggette plays like that, that's our unit right there," Brand said. "Down the stretch, he played great minutes …. He's been so professional with all these rumors and all this talk.
"I don't make the decisions. I don't know how pressing the situation is, what's going on behind the scenes and if [a trade is] going to happen. But when he plays like that … work it out."
In 29 minutes, Maggette made five of 10 shots from the field, was 11 for 11 from the free-throw line and had eight rebounds and four assists. He scored the Clippers' final four points, making two free throws with 39.2 seconds left in the game and then the eventual game-winning jumper.
"I'm a Corey Maggette fan, so nothing he does surprises me," Cassell said. "Corey is a guy who rebounds the ball extremely well, attacks the basket well and makes shots. He's our all-purpose ballplayer.
"He's not even worried about starting. He knows he's going to get 14 to 15 attempts for us every night and play major minutes. You see the way he played tonight? Corey Maggette is a big part of our basketball team."
Coach Mike Dunleavy called a timeout after Trenton Hassell made a 17-foot jumper to put Minnesota ahead, 91-90, with 25.3 seconds to play. Dunleavy called a play that included several options, and Cuttino Mobley missed a shot in the lane and grabbed the rebound.
Mobley then lost the ball, Brand grabbed it on the baseline to the right of the basket and considered shooting until he heard Maggette's voice from behind him.
"I didn't know about the shot clock, so I was about to pull up myself and knock it down," Brand said. "Then I heard him. He said, 'E.B.! E.B.!' We've been playing together for a long time, so I'm accustomed to his voice. He knocked it down."
That's what he's supposed to do, Maggette said.
"My job is just to go out there and play and score," he said. "I wasn't expecting to hit the game-winner, but I was expecting to be productive for this team."
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After reading the article im starting to think he stays with them
Maybe he's not happy with the under-performing Clips, and wants a team that will at least make the playoffs.
Didn't Detroit trade for sheed in the mid season and win it that same year?
Not mixing in and taking time to adjust is over rated.
And the Spurs with Nazr in '05....a mid-season acquisition.
Sheed put Detroit over the top.
Nazr didn't have anywhere near the same impact
(how could he? sitting on bench in the 4th qtr?).
the Wallace trade and the Nazr trade helped the teams to win the le.
the Wallace trade was crucial for Detroit's championship, the importance of the Nazr trade will never be possible to be evaluated.
but as far as I know, there is noone who ever claimed the trade had made the Spurs a worse team.
and considering the fact that the finals went 7 games, it have been some little things that decided between win or lose. having Nazr instead of Malik might have been that little, but still crucial effect.
You can't eveluate the trade just by the finals...but looking at all the regular season and play offs. In the regular season Zazr was so good to became the starting center oevr Rasho. In the play offs, Nazr was crucial against some teams (see Phoenix).
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Why The Did You Bump This???
this scared the crap outta me!!!
Why The Did You Bump This???
My guess is for a response just like yours, well done.
Nice one...
d*** it! I shouldn't reply to make this thread float but i just can't help!!!!!!!
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