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Nah it was two different guys...the one in the dark jersey got popped by Artest...the guy that got slugged by O'Neal was the one that the guy in the brown suit was wailing on.
It was two different fans. Artest hit one and JO hit the other.and that was after he got popped by Artest. That shot by JO had ta hurt!
Nah it was two different guys...the one in the dark jersey got popped by Artest...the guy that got slugged by O'Neal was the one that the guy in the brown suit was wailing on.
That guy looked older than Anthony Johnson, but I didn't see his face clearly.I think the guy in the brown suit that punched the fans might be Anthony Johnson after all
You people are nuts!How are people in San Antonio reacting over this? We got people out here talking about the NBA should have more of this excitement.
I can only see the reaction on the board but I think most of us are stunned.
If I hear this idiot on ESPN say one more time that was Artest did was ok because he would have done the same...just because a cop once told him he could file assault charges for having something thrown at him doesn't mean that he has the right to go beat the crap out of someone that isn't threatening him.
I actually agree with SAS on something. I agree totally with his stance. Anthony and Legler are disagreeing with him and siding with the players. Understandable since they are former players.
This will probably come out wrong but this little fight probably brings the Pacers closer together. In some sick, twisted way, it was a bonding experience for the Pacers. Come playoff time, they won't face a harder opponent than the Pistons' fans.
I still think Jim is wrong...I think this fight will be about as bad for the NBA as it was for generating interest in a SpursTalk thread.
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I see this as an end to the Artest career as a Pacer. I don't think the pacers will do jack.
Somehow, I don't see the Kings doing a straight Peja/Artest deal now.
All ya'll mother ers saying Artest shouldn't have defended himself are some suburban, pampered fools. Serious, you never had to defend yourselves in your life. If someone slapped you in the face, you'd head out the door, you wouldn't know what to do with yourself. You have to realize these players more often than not come from backgrounds where they have to stand up for themselves against any slight, they have to be men. Artest and Jackson were men. Maybe a lack of perfect judgment, but they were protecting themselves against some cowardly, punk-ass behavior. Like those two fat-ass chubby kids who came out in Pistons jerseys trying to start with Artest on the floor. Got what they deserved - leveled. I hate those frat boy types in the stands thinking they can lob beers at players and not get their noses taken off. Where's the respect? And the dumb-ass cops trying to pepper spray the players before they pepper spray the fans.
This reminds me of those idiots who get themselves killed every year in Yellowstone encouraging their kids to walk up and pet a moose or something, a bear, and get themselves wiped out. People have no respect for anything and don't see consequences for their behavior. This was all caused by idiotic fans.
There will be a point when the Pacers organization will have had enough of Artest and will do anything to move him. Is this that point? I don't know. But they are a decent organization and his continual psycho behavior and disrespect of everyone around him is an outrage.
Back up with the "mother ers" talk, Mr. BadAss.All ya'll mother ers saying Artest shouldn't have defended himself are some suburban, pampered fools. Serious, you never had to defend yourselves in your life. If someone slapped you in the face, you'd head out the door, you wouldn't know what to do with yourself. You have to realize these players more often than not come from backgrounds where they have to stand up for themselves against any slight, they have to be men. Artest and Jackson were men. Maybe a lack of perfect judgment, but they were protecting themselves against some cowardly, punk-ass behavior. Like those two fat-ass chubby kids who came out in Pistons jerseys trying to start with Artest on the floor. Got what they deserved - leveled. I hate those frat boy types in the stands thinking they can lob beers at players and not get their noses taken off. Where's the respect? And the dumb-ass cops trying to pepper spray the players before they pepper spray the fans.
This reminds me of those idiots who get themselves killed every year in Yellowstone encouraging their kids to walk up and pet a moose or something, a bear, and get themselves wiped out. People have no respect for anything and don't see consequences for their behavior. This was all caused by idiotic fans.
Artest wasn't protecting himself. He wasn't in danger. He had beer on his jersey. He wasn't being threatened.
the players are totally blameless?This was all caused by idiotic fans
I just saw this on SportsCenter and I have to say, it's one of the most disgusting things I've seen in all the sports I watch. I heard it was bad, but bloody , that was pure lunacy from all 3 parties involved (Pistons, Pacers and fans).
What really saddens me is Jackson. This cat found his niche in San Antonio under the guidance of Pop - now he'll have the reputation of a nut job and thug because he isn't controlled in Indy. This guy can be a star player, but come on man....
When Rasheed is doing his best to stay out of the action, you know that things have gone too far. Good on Rasheed though, Detroit has done him wonders.
Tinsley sickens me. Coming out of the rooms with a dustpan? en cheap act. If you are going to fight, fight like a en man. Tinsley is a piece of trash.
All in all, this is a sad day for basketball. Unfortunate that Artest and Jackson were nearest the 'cup' incident as both have a temper and both would go nuts if they saw the other doing so. If it was a player with a different demeanour, well...this never would have happened.
Blame falls on all parties. Disgraceful incident that will take the shine of things like Wade's star game.
That is the irony....Sheed was trying to be a peacemaker!When Rasheed is doing his best to stay out of the action, you know that things have gone too far. Good on Rasheed though, Detroit has done him wonders.
One thing I want to know is what the is a dust pan going to do? What, he couldn't find a wet paper bag back inside the hallway?
He was going to be "Mr. Sandman".
I'm tempted to vote for Pacers and Pistons for the East All-Stars just to see THAT trainwreck.
ing riduclious.
while the fans were instigators for the major melee....it comes down to artest being a nutcase.
like some have pointed out....you dont go into the stands...no matter what.
were the fans innocent? no.
shoudl the players of gone into the stands...no ing way in .
and stephen jackson is ing stupid......maybe more stupid than artest.
It was.I think the guy in the brown suit that punched the fans might be Anthony Johnson after all
http://www.detnews.com/2004/pistons/...tons-11169.htmEvery Pacers player was allowed to leave the building. They host Orlando Saturday. There was talk that Pacers forward Jermaine O'Neal might be arrested. He and teammate Anthony Johnson both punched a fan -- whose name was believed to be Charles Hadad -- who had run onto the court after O'Neal. Johnson hit him first, O'Neal knocked him cold.
Look, it was a fight. It was a brawl. It was stupid. It is not the end of the world.Back up with the "mother ers" talk, Mr. BadAss.
Artest wasn't protecting himself. He wasn't in danger. He had beer on his jersey. He wasn't being threatened.
A threatened person needs to protect himself. If you don't protect yourself when threatened you're a punk.
A bunch of suburbanites won't understand. They feel threatened whenever they see a huge black man defending himself. That's the way it is in this country and may always be.
Okay, Mr. Ghetto. You still don't get it. He wasn't threatened. He had beer on his jersey.
*Sits back with soda*
This is about to get good.
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