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    Really? Most scientists who have studied the issue say the explosions in WTC 1 threw out the chunks.

    Debris was ejected by the force of expelled gases as the floors pancaked down with increasing speed and kinetic energy. Have you ever squeezed a bellows?

    And, where are all these scientific reports by all these scientists who have studied the issue and say explosions in WTC 1 threw out the chunks?

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    Debris was ejected by the force of expelled gases as the floors pancaked down with increasing speed and kinetic energy.
    You're making this up, right?

    The pancake theory has been abandoned a long time ago.

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    So, you're neither an engineer or a demo expert. Got it.


    Much more can be claimed in a political forum.
    What does that have to do with seeing a controlled demolition video of WTC 7? Anyone can see it.

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    So the NIST scientists can't actually say anything to anyone ever. They are being repressed?
    They wrote a progress report that is edited by managers, just like all government reports.

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    You're making this up, right?

    The pancake theory has been abandoned a long time ago.
    Evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics!

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    They wrote a progress report that is edited by managers, just like all government reports.
    You didn't answer the question.

    Are the NIST scientists being repressed?

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    Evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics!
    The Second Law of Thermodynamics violates evolution!

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    You didn't answer the question.

    Are the NIST scientists being repressed?
    What's your definition of repressed?

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    What's your definition of repressed?
    Not being allowed to speak to anyone, imprisoned, prevented from releasing their final findings.

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    Not being allowed to speak to anyone, imprisoned, prevented from releasing their final findings.
    They aren't done yet. They are trying to concoct something plausible.

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    They aren't done yet. They are trying to concoct something plausible.
    So they are in on the conspiracy. All of them.

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    So they are in on the conspiracy. All of them.
    I already told you there wasn't a conspiracy.

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    So they are in on the conspiracy. All of them.
    You're a conspiracy nut!

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    I already told you there wasn't a conspiracy.
    Conspiracy, cover up, whatever.

    If you told me there was no conspiracy, then tell me what really happened on 9/11?

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    Conspiracy, cover up, whatever.

    If you told me there was no conspiracy, then tell me what really happened on 9/11?
    it was a clean, low-casualty, false-flag military operation.

    They ed up on WTC 7, though.

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    it was a clean, low-casualty, false-flag military operation.

    They ed up on WTC 7, though.
    Galileo...

    You've lost it.

    I think you need a psychiatrist.

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    it was a clean, low-casualty, false-flag military operation.
    Conducted by whom?

    They ed up on WTC 7, though.
    How? Who is "they"?

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    And false-flag operations are conspiracies.


    Main Entry:
    con·spire
    Function:
    verb
    Inflected Form(s):
    con·spired; con·spir·ing
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Anglo-French conspirer, from Latin conspirare to be in harmony, conspire, from com- + spirare to breathe
    Date:
    14th century

    transitive verb: plot, contrive
    intransitive verb
    1 a: to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement <accused of conspiring to overthrow the government> b: scheme

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    Galileo...

    You've lost it.

    I think you need a psychiatrist.
    You're a conspiracy nut. Not even a psychiatrist would help.

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    And false-flag operations are conspiracies.


    Main Entry:
    con·spire
    Function:
    verb
    Inflected Form(s):
    con·spired; con·spir·ing
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Anglo-French conspirer, from Latin conspirare to be in harmony, conspire, from com- + spirare to breathe
    Date:
    14th century

    transitive verb: plot, contrive
    intransitive verb
    1 a: to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement <accused of conspiring to overthrow the government> b: scheme
    And he says it's not a conspiracy he believes in?

    Is there a psychiatrist in the house?

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    Oh, stop. We were briefed on the plan when we joined the plot back in the 1990's, when PNAC recruited us. By the United States military, silly! And it's not a conspiracy, because the whole government was in on it. Fully 100 million Americans, roughly the entire hawkish right wing, are in on it. I'm the first one to come clean. I am wondering how I've gone several hours without being shot yet, since the government has been able to neutralize every single other person who's thought about blabbing.


    Stop playing dumb. WTC 7 was the command center for the military operation. After the second tower was hit, the officers evacuated. WTC 7 was supposed to collapse when debris from the adjacent tower fell on it.
    Remember when it didn't because there was a loose wire from the detonator, and we were all "o crap, those smart libertarians are gonna figure this out lol" ? So the media had to get spinning fast, and they came up with the "there are creaking noises it's gonna fall soon." But then they screwed it up, and reported that it fell already. Finally Tom got the wires fixed, but we were all "there's no way anyone will buy it it'll look just like a planned demolition." And sure enough the libertarians figured it out, and now we've had to spend 6 1/2 years fighting them on the internets.

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    You're a conspiracy nut. Not even a psychiatrist would help.
    What conspiracy do I believe in?

    Wow... I must be in denial too... Oh wait... I am a global warning denier, does that count?

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    And false-flag operations are conspiracies.


    Main Entry:
    con·spire
    Function:
    verb
    Inflected Form(s):
    con·spired; con·spir·ing
    Etymology:
    Middle English, from Anglo-French conspirer, from Latin conspirare to be in harmony, conspire, from com- + spirare to breathe
    Date:
    14th century

    transitive verb: plot, contrive
    intransitive verb
    1 a: to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement <accused of conspiring to overthrow the government> b: scheme
    This one was perfectly legal. Military operations are legal, if ordered by the proper authorities.

    False flag

    False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other en ies. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy's strategy of tension.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

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    This one was perfectly legal. Military operations are legal, if ordered by the proper authorities.
    "or wrongful"

    Thanks for playing.

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    What conspiracy do I believe in?

    Wow... I must be in denial too... Oh wait... I am a global warning denier, does that count?
    Don't you believe in the vast worldwide conspiracy that's out to get us?

    Ya know, Al Qaida.

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