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    As Viktor said in his ...facebook page he decided to sign with Tartu. Explaining the reasons in an interview to a Greek sports newspaper today, he mentioned that main reason for his decision was that when approached by AEK coach (AEK also send him a contract to be signed and returned back) he had already -orally- agreed with Tartu and he didn't want to break his promise to the Esthonian club. So, that's it guys no updates from Greece for Sani ...this year! Hope for him the best and of course to join and succesfully play one day for the Spurs!

    win first, brag later.
    you obviously didn't learn your lessen from last year. PANA DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAY OFFS, despite the "best Euroleague roster ever", as you tried to make us believe. a bunch of overpayed big names doesn't automatically make a champion.
    I should look at the Pana roster?
    oh, some weeks ago you explained to us that it was all Jasikevicious fault and how he destroyed the team last season.
    guess what, he's still there. so, if he had the power to destroy Pana last year, what's the difference this year??????
    and oh yes, they added Drew Nicholas. great, a trigger happy combo guard was exactly what Pana was lacking. good luck with trying to teach him that he no longer is the #1 option on his team, but #4 or #5. and you think you now have a great front court with Pekovic and Fotsis? well maybe, but they won't see the ball anyhow.
    and about Siskauskas. we know that in your book it's a law of nature that only a Greek player can be the best player in Europe and that if there is a Greek player on any team in the world, he is automatically the teams best player. O WEAK UP! Papaloukas has left CSKA!
    oh I forgot.
    they also have Zsisis. now I see what you mean. this season of course Zsisis is the best player of CSKA.
    Mate, I don't want to be the ...laywer of Kill-Bill user (after all I hate panathinaikos :P) but why you have so much tense when you discuss this matter? Chill mate, it's just sports, if you're right CSKA (or an another russian team) will again win the Euroleague champions or if you're wrong, it will be panathinaikos or olympiakos or someone else and etc. The Spanish League and it's teams are number 1 in Europe the last years. There are years on which Greek teams win the Euroleague, some others it is a Russian club or even Macabi from Israel. You cannot surely judge a league, just from looking who is taking the Euroleague or Eurocup trophies. It is a good info and a strong argument but surely not the only one. In order to fully judge which Europe League is the best or 2nd, you must watch games every week, see the rosters and follow the progress of their local teams inbound (nationally) and outbound (european level). I don't watch the Spanish, the Russian or the Italian league, but I can say for sure that these 3 are in the top of Europe zone. The Greek one is also in the top 3, probably 2nd or 3rd. Your disagreement is what? That it is 3rd or 4th and you don't like someone to tell you that it is 2nd? I honestly can't understand your sayings...
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    win first, brag later.
    you obviously didn't learn your lessen from last year. PANA DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAY OFFS, despite the "best Euroleague roster ever", as you tried to make us believe. a bunch of overpayed big names doesn't automatically make a champion.
    I should look at the Pana roster?
    oh, some weeks ago you explained to us that it was all Jasikevicious fault and how he destroyed the team last season.
    guess what, he's still there. so, if he had the power to destroy Pana last year, what's the difference this year??????
    and oh yes, they added Drew Nicholas. great, a trigger happy combo guard was exactly what Pana was lacking. good luck with trying to teach him that he no longer is the #1 option on his team, but #4 or #5. and you think you now have a great front court with Pekovic and Fotsis? well maybe, but they won't see the ball anyhow.
    and about Siskauskas. we know that in your book it's a law of nature that only a Greek player can be the best player in Europe and that if there is a Greek player on any team in the world, he is automatically the teams best player. O WEAK UP! Papaloukas has left CSKA!
    oh I forgot.
    they also have Zsisis. now I see what you mean. this season of course Zsisis is the best player of CSKA.
    1. You are idiot

    2. Last year PAO play Euroleague without their centers and have 6-8 center and 6-5 power forward. I guess for you this never happen.

    3. Planinic and Lorbek is better players I think than Siska and maybe Morris also. Zizic? No. He is more talent maybe then any player in CSKA but he is big failure even eyes of Greeks. He is one of major disappointment in all Europe.

    4. CSKA is still maybe #3 or #4 team in Euroleague still but Olympiacos should be better then them this year and so should PAO. And I never say Olympiacos was better team then them last year.

    5. Yes I am talk about talents of teams and "on papers" abilities.

    Olympiacos have some great players like Bourousis, Childress, Vasilopoulos, and Pelekanos. Printezis also is player with good potential but still role player. Then they have the champion level role players like Greer, Papaloukas, Halperin, Vujcic and even some other ones can help like Sofo, Erceg and such. Childress, Vasilo and Bourousis is in premiere group of players in all Europe - I assume for Childress but we still have to see.

    PG Papaloukas/Greer/Milosevic
    SG Pelekanos/Halperin/Teodosic
    SF Childress/Printezis
    PF Vasilopoulos/Erceg/Vouyoukas
    C Bourousis/Vujcic/Sofo

    These is rotation that should be able handle CSKA I believe. Even if Papaloukas is still decline Greer is ok to bring ball up court with such scorers around him. Olympiacos team is much more athletic team with also they have much better depth with big players then CSKA.

    CSKA is very good team still. Lorbek is better then Andersen who leave and Planinic is now better then Papaloukas and they replace these players. Also Morris is better then Goree and he replace him. CSKA also have some young players that is keep get better and is NBA players in future probably and they add player like Keyru and he is solid. Khyrapa keep get better also. Siska, Holden, Langdon, Smodis these key players is in prime of career. Zisis is maybe most talent player on team but he is huge disappointment. In Greece he is joke. Such talent and so great at such young age and every year he get worse ever since Varejao break his face bones. Maybe he will come back but I doubt this. He is still very good backup player though and would be starter in even most of best teams in Europe. Savraksenko also good backup.

    PG Holden/Zisis/Shved
    SG Langdon/Planinic
    SF Siskauskas/Khryapa/Keyru
    PF Smodis/Morris/Vorontsevich
    C Lorbek/Savrasenko/Kaun

    This is even better team then from before the team that make 3 straigh Euroleague finals and win 2 of them. But even though is better team new Olympiacos team look better to me. Much more athletic team and more players can create own shot and also they have more players with size for ever role needed. Both teams has excellent coaches. Just seem similar teams and very good and among best ever but Oly is much better in athlete aspects. Also Oly have some much better one verse one defenders with players like Vasilo and Childress and Pelekanos. CSKA has no defenders as good as they is.


    For compare PAO to CSKA I do not think will be close this time. Last year PAO lose both centers in Euroleague because of injury and this why team was eliminate. If team stay healthy plus with current roster is by far best team in Euroleague. Much better then CSKA. Even CSKA is better then last year which they is in talent it not matter. Real is also very very strong this year we will see how they do.

    Best team should be PAO. This time I not think Obradovic will make mistake of have Saras be key player. he learn about this mistake already. Now he will be in role he should be. Players like him and Diamantidis is role players not players who should be key stars. I think Obradovic understand this by now. Also last season our two centers were injure and not play in Euroleague and this is why we lost. So if we not have injuries it will be fine. We add Nicholas and Pekovic and Fotsis and Verginis. We just need stay healthy and everything will be fine for us. Greek Cup and Euroleague will be hard to win but Greek championship is no issue. Olympiacos I do not think can win us in 5 game series, one game yes but in 5 I do not believe they can beat us. And even in Cup and Euroleague we should be favored team.

    PG Diamantidis/Jasikevicius/Tatarounis
    SG Spanoulis/Nicholas/Verginis
    SF Perperoglou/Hatzivrettas/Kecman
    PF Fotsis/Tsartsaris/Sakota/Alvertis
    C Batiste/Pekovic

    So PAO have superstar player for Euroleague level with Spanoulis and then ones that is top stars for this level like Pekovic, Batiste. Fotsis and then ones that is not in that level but is still players would be franchise player in most Euroleague teams like Nicholas, Diamantidis, Jasikevicius and even champion type role players like Hatzivrettas and Tsartsaris. And then PAO have Perperoglou which is young player and inexperience and will start at SF. Can be see as only weakness of PAO. But Perperoglou is one of very most talent players in all Europe and one of most talent Greek players ever. So "weakness" of team may become very best part along with Spanoulis.




    Other teams will be very strong like Real, TAU, Barcelona, Siena, Maccabi and I think Real and Siena should be much in same class as CSKA, Oly, PAO this year as favorites for final four.

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    this guy is a vanilla version of tayshaun prince without the freckles...

    is he our answer at the 3?
    Wont happen

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    Mate, I don't want to be the ...laywer of Kill-Bill user (after all I hate panathinaikos :P) but why you have so much tense when you discuss this matter?
    visit this site for some weeks (or some other Spurs site) and you will know it.
    since Spanoulis was on the Spurs roster for some weeks KBP floods all Spurs forums with hymns about the greatness of V-Span, the unbeatable Panathinaikos team or all the Greek players, who would dominate in the NBA, if they were in the league.
    that's sometimes funny and mostly annoying.
    it's not that this site didn't appreciate some (objective) informations about Greek players and the Greek league or the Euroleague.

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    only a fool writes a whole novel to explain something to an idiot what the idiot won't get anyhow.

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    Sofo still playing? Hey maybe if he keeps eating hamburgers and gyros he can grow himself so big that nobody will be able to get around him to get to the basket. Sofo the fatso!

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    As Viktor said in his ...facebook page he decided to sign with Tartu. Explaining the reasons in an interview to a Greek sports newspaper today, he mentioned that main reason for his decision was that when approached by AEK coach (AEK also send him a contract to be signed and returned back) he had already -orally- agreed with Tartu and he didn't want to break his promise to the Esthonian club. So, that's it guys no updates from Greece for Sani ...this year! Hope for him the best and of course to join and succesfully play one day for the Spurs!
    Thanks for the news.

    I think Taru is a good place for him. Sanikidze hasn't played a season at a quite high level for three years. He should get some consistent playing time in Estonia and I quite like that he will face teams with different levels.

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    Sofo still playing? Hey maybe if he keeps eating hamburgers and gyros he can grow himself so big that nobody will be able to get around him to get to the basket. Sofo the fatso!
    Yes it was report he is now in 375 pounds. was report at 420 pounds during Olympics. target weight is 340 pounds. It was say actual weight over last summer was 445 pounds even though Olympiacos never admit he get over 405 pounds. Greece team at Olympics claim he was 375 but it was report real number was 420.

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    I just want say every 4 years Euroleague look over each domestic league and how they perform and what level they have in teams an where league is at in current days.

    They just do this again and announce new league setting for teams which is base on "how strong is each domestic league".

    This is how many teams will be for Euroleague start next year base on "current strength of each league".

    1. Spain 4 teams
    1. Greece 4 teams
    3. Italy 3 teams
    4. Russia 2 teams (even after they add so many NBA players)
    4. Turkey 2 teams
    4. France 2 teams

    rest of domestic leagues that is consider good enough for Euroleague level will gets 1 team each and then also ULEB Eurocup which is second tier level of Euroleague will also get 1 team.


    So all liars of Europe fans which is haters and Americans fans which keep make up craps they not know anything about is prove wrong. Euroleague announce Greek League is equal to Spanish one and better then all others.
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    ...get over it
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    Looks just like Bogut on this pic...

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    I just read on IBN that the Sweden/Georgia game is available online :
    http://www.svenskbaskettelevision.se...tml?id=1256864

    Sanikidze is number 13, red jersey.

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    Just started watching...is it halftime?

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    The quality of the streaming video is much better than most games here in the U.S.

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    Just started watching...is it halftime?
    This game happened one week ago. It isn't a live streaming.

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    Sanikidze will join Tartu Rock today in Lithuania, where the team will begin its Baltic League season with a clash with the third strongest Lithuanian team Šiauliai. The team participated in a pre-season friendly tournament and lost to Riga Barons (Latvian champion) 86:73 and Kaunas Žalgiris (Lithuanian champion, euroleague team) 72:73. However, signs are better than two losses would suggest, since Žalgiris is just about the best club they're likely to play against... (thinking of it, there are only a handful of clubs in Europe that could consider themselves clearly stronger than Žalgiris), and the games were played without Sanikidze, Tanel Tein (first choice SG) and Vallo Allingu (second choice C). However, one clearly cannot read too much into the results of friendly matches, so... we'll see how Rock and Sanikidze will get on.

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    Thanks for the news and welcome.

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    Tartu Rock beat Lietuvos Rytas (Lithuania top 2 club) 79-66
    Sanikidze with 14 points 6 rebonds 1 assist in 24 min of playtime.

    Stats: http://www.bbl.net/index.php/b19sYW5...4mZ19pZD0xMjk1

    and some game moments (Rock is in white): http://sport.err.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=6704

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    Thanks for the update and the video, Mikk! Sanikidze looks like he has bulked up slightly.

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    Tartu Rock beat Lietuvos Rytas (Lithuania top 2 club) 79-66
    Sanikidze with 14 points 6 rebonds 1 assist in 24 min of playtime.

    Stats: http://www.bbl.net/index.php/b19sYW5...4mZ19pZD0xMjk1

    and some game moments (Rock is in white): http://sport.err.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=6704
    Very cool. Keep us updated

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    It has been a slightly odd season for Rock so far... they have beaten Lietuvas Rytas, Riga Barons and just today beat Riga ASK and are currently ranked second in the baltic league behind ASK... which is surely better than could have been expected... and then again, they managed to lose to an Austrian club and therefore have to play in the lower European league... Anyway... a quiet game from Sanikidze today... 8 minutes, 2 free throws made, 3 rebounds, 1 foul and 2 turnovers. Rock's leader was rather unexpectedly Asko Paade with 19 points, Tanoka Beard had 18p and 12rb.

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    Hmmm, it's not the only goal that has come crashing to the ground for Sanikidze.

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    Hmmm, it's not the only goal that has come crashing to the ground for Sanikidze.
    Ouch.

    Seriously though, Sanikidze now looks like he's 22 going on 37. He looks in even worse shape and even more "elevated" than usual.

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