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Dude, no one ing wants Bonner. They'd have to trade him coupled with a first round pick. Oh, wait...
Dude, no one ing wants Bonner. They'd have to trade him coupled with a first round pick. Oh, wait...
The way I see it, we have duplicity in what Barry does in Finley.
And I am a big Barry fan, but we have enough guys that can shoot the 3 and now have Stoudamire and Vaughn to bring the rock up when Parker is not.
Thomas upgrades Elson, big time and will supplant Oberto in the rotation. Watch.
Also, with Mahinmi and Splitter being up and coming, I won't lose sleep over a lost first rounder.
This trade unquestionably helps the Spurs win now.
And I take comfort in the fact that helping the Spurs win now is the undisputable intent of the deal by the front office.
I think Thomas helps the Spurs offensively more than defensively. He's a good shooter from 15-18 feet which makes it harder for teams to trap Ginobili and Parker on pick and rolls. Also, teams can't just leave him open because he'll make the shot.
He'll help with rebounding, but who can he really guard? There really aren't a lot of true post players in the west besides Duncan and Yao, and he's way too small to guard Yao. Boozer plays mostly pick and roll and likes to face up. Okur plays on the perimeter. Gasol, as I said is more of a face up player, as is Amare. David West is a mid-range jumpshooter. Dirk posts up sometimes, but if you put Thomas on him, the Mavs will just run the iso from the top of the key that they love to do, and Thomas can't guard him from there.
I think the best way to use him is to bring him off the bench with Ginobili to run pick and pop. That way, there will be someone besides Manu on the floor who is a threat to score.
Nice to get another big...hope KT can make a solid contribution in Pop's system.
Awesome.
Spurs should have trade Splitter, Mahinmi their 2008, 2009, 2010.. first and second round picks because they won't help them this year.
Great long and mid term thinking.
You're right T-Park. It is a crap shoot. Not like the Spurs didn't get an immediate impact player in 2001 with the 28th pick or anything. Not like in 2003 during there weren't any great picks left well into the 2nd round. Oh and Splitter was part of the "etc etc etc"
it.
Season is over.
Sell the season tickets.
Why bother watching.
Well, you're going into the playoffs think the Spurs will play Lakers and Pheonix. What if Kobe's finger doesn't hold up and they get bounced in the 1st round? What if Pheonix Shaq gets reinjured and is not even 90% for the Suns when he plays in the postseason?
Those are basically the only two teams Thomas's post defense would be extremely valuable against.
Matchups are everything; What if the Spurs road to the finals is to play the Nuggets, Mavericks, and Jazz??? Barry would have come in a lot handier against those teams than Thomas.
i would think that it depends on a couple of things. first and foremost would be whether or not KT wants to stay a spurs. lets just assume a yes. next will be whether he still has gas in the tank. if he shows to be a solid player, capable of handling 20 or so minutes a night for the rest of the season, and producing at a respectable clip (better than, say 7&7), than its probably a go on that front.
next would be his cost. if he can be had at the vet min, its a no brainer. and depending on the level of his production, a salary somewhere between 2-4 mil wouldnt be unheard of. but thanks to this move, the spurs now own thomas' bird rights, meaning we can go over the cap to resign him, without having to touch any of our exception money. so we could conceivably overpay a bit, and stilll have the same money to spend (MLE, LLE), and not push us too close to the tax line. again, would depend on exactly how productive he is as a spur.
The trade unquestionably helps the spurs win now.
Are you serious? Do you even read what people write, or do you just react dramatically to everything???
Spot on.
Great post Ghost.
I like that were on the same page on this trade
The first rounder was lame indeed. But I'm sure they carefully thought about this before doing it. Thomas covered Duncan very well during the last playoffs and few players can do that. As far as getting Thomas I think that's ok. He's hungry for a le he couldn't get with the Suns and after moving to Seattle I'm sure he wanted out as soon as possible to a contending team.
I don't think I did use them in the same sentence. That being said, what was Elson averaging? Why all the bitterness? I suppose you are right, Elson is better off the bench than Thomas and an injured Barry was really helping.
You really think Bonner will start getting his minutes back up?
I mean really, not trying to start an argument.
Do you really think Bonner can get his minutes back?
Over the last 14 games he's averaging a little over 8 minutes per game.
I've read what you guys have written and your cherry picking drafts to make it think there are fantastic all stars at the end of the first round.
Im not arguing with you guys so fine. Horrible trade worst trade in the history of the NBA.
happy?
I like the pickup, but man the Spurs really don't respect draft picks do they?
Give up Oberto for second-round picks when they easily could have gotten a first.
And give up a first for Thomas when it should have been a second.
Will you please find some other take on this matter? You have no clue.
Not this year.
Next year when Horry is gone, he will get the minutes back.
I don't think I, nor pop have lost faith in him.
If you have, thats your opinion, but I haven't.
So they have their 1st rounder this year. They have their 1st round pick from last year coming in next season. Mahinmi is progressing. They have 4 2nd round picks to use on international talent over the next two drafts. The Spurs' frontcourt needed to be upgraded for this season. You have to balance long term internet GM draft wishes with current needs.
Oh God, Bill Walton and Stephen A Smith are praising this deal.
I'm not kidding.
His name is Giorgi Shermadini. He is a 7'1" center born in 1989. He scored 47 points in a recent game. he could end up being drafted one day.
Yeah, when do the people who are bemoaning next year's first rounder think that he will actually crack the rotation?
Circa 2012?
So that means automatically Sanikidze is horrible?
Pardon me if I'm not gonna give up on him so quickly.
I'm choosing to purposely ignore your rude sarcasm and dumbass assumptions.
I never said this was a "horrible trade worst trade in the history of the NBA." I did point out that it was a lot to give up to get Kurt Thomas when you factor in a valuable first round pick and I think Barry was a lot more important to the Spurs than many people realize.
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