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    I'm interested simply for some Native American talent in the league! Going to North Dakota I'd assume he's Sioux?
    Yes, he is Sioux! Maybe he can clean some things up and be 1st rounder next season

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    Spurs Draft board


    I posted my own draft board, but wanted to make a suggestion for what the spurs draft board might look like. Obviously just my opinion but it makes sense for them to approach it this way. I don’t have any real intel obviously just going off what Brian Wright has said in the that past. He likes versatile players, position-less basketball. At the lottery he mentioned best player available although I believe that will be altered if they do in fact take Harper.


    So this board was made assuming the Spurs take Dylan Harper at 2.


    Brian Wright said best player available and likes versatility but the “best player available” philosophy might be altered a bit once they take Harper. On ball dominate players that are best utilized in that way may be pushed down the spurs board. With Fox, Harper, Castle, Vassell and Wemby no more on ball options make sense. So I eliminated players like Queen, Wolf, CMB, Demin.


    I also eliminated the remaining guards. I eliminated any wing that can’t play at the very least the 3 position. So any player under 6’5 without shoes.


    Eliminated any player that won’t fall to 14 (Bailey, Tre Johnson, Edgecombe, Kon Knueppel, Maluach)


    I pushed up younger players since that has been Brian Wright’s calling card. I pushed up players that could play multiple or most positions especially off ball. I think he will prioritize versatility over age though so I might keep some older players high.


    I pushed down any centers that have no shot of playing the 4 at the NBA level. I stopped once I got to these guys.


    I would also eliminate any player with character concerns but at this time I don’t know of any in this class.


    I’m going to put their ages and what positions they could possibly play next to their names.


    I’m going to stop at 26 players since the spurs last pick is at 38. With the eliminated players and these 26 prospects I feel good about the spurs getting 2 of these guys barring trade


    My version of a potential Spurs draft board:



    • Carter Bryant, 19, 2-4, small ball 5
    • Noa Essengue, 18, 3-4, small ball 5
    • Thomas Sorber, 19, 4-5
    • Asa Newell, 19, 4-5
    • Cedric Coward, 21, 2-4
    • Nique Clifford, 23, 2-4
    • Rasheer Fleming, 21, 4-5
    • Maxime Raynaud, 22, 4-5
    • Yaxel Lendeborg, 22, 4-5
    • Noah Penda, 20, 3-4, small ball 5
    • Liam Mcneely, 19, 3-4, small ball 5
    • Will Riley, 19, 2-3
    • Joan Beringer, 18, 4-5
    • Neoklis Avdalas, 19, 2-3
    • Adou Thiero, 21, 3-4
    • Koby Brea, 22, 2-3
    • Alex Condon, 20, 4-5
    • Hugo Gonzalez, 19, 2-3
    • Drake Powell, 19, 2-3
    • Bogoljub Markovic, 20, 4-5
    • Alex Toohey, 21, 3-4, small ball 5
    • Hansen Yang, 20, 5
    • Ryan Kalkbrenner, 23, 5
    • Vladislav Goldin, 24, 5
    • Yonic Konan Niederhauser, 22, 5
    • Rocco Zikarsky, 19, 5



    So basically long story short I feel like the Spurs will end up with 2 of these guys if they don’t trade their picks.

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    Yes, he is Sioux! Maybe he can clean some things up and be 1st rounder next season
    Nice. I'll be rooting for him based on this alone.

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    A week ago about this time we found out we were getting Dylan Harper.

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    I'm definitely intrigued by Cedric Coward at 14. Liam as well. Both look to be good shooters. Fleming is still the archetype we need but he might not be the player we need. Of those three, Coward seems like a Wright pick. Carter Bryant as well but I expect him to be gone.

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    At 38, I continue to plead for French prospects.

    Zacharie Perrin is very low. He is the former leader in points and rebounds of the French team in the European and World Youth Championships. In a team that included Sarr, Penda, Ajinça and Risacher*. He chose a team this year that didn't give him a chance and he's not very effective with little playing time. But the talent remains there.

    Athletic, mobile, can play PF, good passer, in short, very complete. You draft him at 38, you leave him in Europe for two or three years, and there is a much greater chance of seeing him explode than any nobody who only played in college and who drafted so low will quit basketball or go play in Taiwan. Just like Ajinça last year, drafted by Dallas and who played a bigger role this year in ASVEL.

    *this team won against Team USA two years ago in semis (14 pts for Harper, 18pts for Perrin) and lost against Spain for the le (won last year the Europe champ without Sarr and Risacher).

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    I think we are keeping our first two round picks so a foreign draft and stash makes sense

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    Listening to Locked On Jazz. Sounds like Pelton's newest model has Harper 7th. Had Castle in the 20s last year, and Wemby 4th? If Locke was reading the lists right.

    Flagg #1 and Kon #2 if anyone cares

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    Listening to Locked On Jazz. Sounds like Pelton's newest model has Harper 7th. Had Castle in the 20s last year, and Wemby 4th? If Locke was reading the lists right.

    Flagg #1 and Kon #2 if anyone cares
    Take it from someone that likes looking at analytics they are not exact. Doesn’t necessarily translate especially since the NBA and college basketball are completely different styles of the game.

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    Take it from someone that likes looking at analytics they are not exact. Doesn’t necessarily translate especially since the NBA and college basketball are completely different styles of the game.
    I look at analytics as a tiebreaker, or a tool to achieve separation.

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    He checks off a lot of boxes. He’s on my top list of Spurs pick at #14

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    https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article...184441527.html

    The likely lottery pick discusses his hoops journey ahead of the draft.

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    I didn’t appreciate that Nique Clifford was 23. Pass.

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    Combine results have been available for a few days:
    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro

    McNeeley results are damn strange. With a good size and a decent wingspan, he has a surprisingly low standing reach (8'3.5"). Either they made a measurement mistake or he did the trick of not stretching during the measurement to get better jumping stats.

    espn latest mock:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...llas-mavericks
    Fleming at #27, Penda at #28, Drake Powell at #31: There are just so much interesting prospect for Spurs in that range. Lendelborg at #26 and Cedric Coward at #30 might also be good pick but I don't know them enough to judge.
    If Spurs trade away their 14th pick, getting a late first round would be a good idea for them.

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    He checks off a lot of boxes. He’s on my top list of Spurs pick at #14
    He doesn't seem to be able to dribble at all every time he puts the ball on the ground he carries it.

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    He doesn't seem to be able to dribble at all every time he puts the ball on the ground he carries it.
    It’s not what it says on his scouting report, i.e here’s one: https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article...163430295.html

    it’s not often a player his size can move as fluidly as he does as a shot creator, whether he’s ball-faking then attacking a closeout, slingshotting toward the basket off a screen, or dribbling in transition. He has a tight crossover, mixes in euro-steps, and can get into soft floaters, touch layups, or ferocious tomahawk dunks”

    On top of being a monster on the board, can hit outside, and Wemby’s friend. The more I watch this guy, the more I’m convinced he will be the #14 pick.

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    If we had gotten the #3 pick instead of the #2 pick, who would we draft?

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    If we had gotten the #3 pick instead of the #2 pick, who would we draft?
    VJ, possibly picking up assets to trade back.

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    Someone might have already posted this since it happened two days ago but Darrion Williams has withdrawn from the NBA draft so you can take him off the board

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    Combine results have been available for a few days:
    https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro

    McNeeley results are damn strange. With a good size and a decent wingspan, he has a surprisingly low standing reach (8'3.5"). Either they made a measurement mistake or he did the trick of not stretching during the measurement to get better jumping stats.

    espn latest mock:
    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...llas-mavericks
    Fleming at #27, Penda at #28, Drake Powell at #31: There are just so much interesting prospect for Spurs in that range. Lendelborg at #26 and Cedric Coward at #30 might also be good pick but I don't know them enough to judge.
    If Spurs trade away their 14th pick, getting a late first round would be a good idea for them.
    Watching Yaxel, Penda, Coward and Powell all go back-to-back like that would be crushing for me. I'd consider Yaxel and Coward at 14 (understanding they might be viewed as reaches) and Penda and Powell are guys I'm hoping somehow slip to 38. Based on this, I'm probably squarely in the camp of trying to trade 14 and 38 for 19 and 26.

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    Watching Yaxel, Penda, Coward and Powell all go back-to-back like that would be crushing for me. I'd consider Yaxel and Coward at 14 (understanding they might be viewed as reaches) and Penda and Powell are guys I'm hoping somehow slip to 38. Based on this, I'm probably squarely in the camp of trying to trade 14 and 38 for 19 and 26.
    I think that trades there if we want it..

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