You're a complete ing idiot if you can't see why 20 million people in a metro area will drive the prices up more for a 20 thousand seat arena than a metro area with 2 million people.
I"ll leave it at that.
Considering the predictions by many on this board that this series isn't going to be close, the at ude of not s ing out bucks for games that aren't going to be competetive is a possibility. The Jazz failing to show up for the first half of game 1 doesn't actually help matters. When the Spurs are in a dogfight in game 2 or if they come back to town tied I'd guess the ticket sales will be a bit more brisk.
Remember when Cuban gave away all those tickets last year to hype up the playoffs?
We're not the only one's having trouble selling tickets for big games.
It seems to be a trend for all Texas sports teams, not just us.
Lack of advertising, promotion, and prices all contribute to poor ticket sales.
From what I've seen, Holt has no interest in putting any real money into a decent advertising scheme.
Last edited by Chris; 05-22-2007 at 01:30 AM.
this . I used to live in Orlando and it was a pipe dream to even pretend you could get tickets come playoff time. I don't understand how these tickets are going unsold. I'm in Austin and have been to SA lots of times and I know how passionate the fanbase is there. WTF is going on?
And how much more expensive are these tickets than the regular season or the previous rounds?
I think there are more casual fans in SA than hardcore ones
As stated before, had it been the Mavs or Suns, this game would've sold out in seconds....but b/c it's the Jazz, everyone is staying put at home it seems
population wise yes. according to the 2005 census.
a difference of 42,684 people.
compared to DFW. forget about it.
Yes prices will be driven up but SA is more than big enough for people to jamming into the building come playoff time jackass. Look at the Kings in Sacremento. Tiny market, small city and people are on waiting lists for those games for like 10 years, the prices of those tickets must be through the roof. Proves a small city can easily have high demand for tickets and drive the prices up.
Will they give some of these extra tickets to charities like childrens' homes?
Once we end up getting blown out in Game 3 and 4 in front of an insane Mormon crowd the fans will wake up and realize these are not ing pre-season games. Sad.
Sorry, I was being ironical.population wise yes. according to the 2005 census.
a difference of 42,684 people.
compared to DFW. forget about it.
Back in the old days didn't the ticket agents buy up all the tickets? I guess they don't even bother anymore?
and i played right into it with dry wit.
i've thought about that a lot the past few years...i am not so sure the Spurs can survive here long term. two reasons:
1. we have won too much
2. its san antonio
im scared.
Given all the bad press this is getting they will probably just give a bunch of seats away rather than face another playoff game with a ton of empty seats.
So I ask a similar question to the one I asked earlier: Have the Spurs been raising ticket prices for each round of the playoffs? Have they been raising ticket prices for the last few years since they opened the new arena? If so, isn't it just possible that they've overestimated what the market will bear because they were anticipating that Dallas would be the opponent rather than Utah? How is that on the fans, again?
Ticket agents bought a ton of them. That's why there's so many on ebay.
And there's also about another 1,000 available on Ticket Exchange.
Yes, ticket prices raise each round of the playoffs. It's always like that.
Tickets started at $25 each (face value) for this series.
I don't know if they raised prices over last year - If I remember correctly, they raised the prices of the lower level seats and lowered some of the prices in the upper level. (I'm not positive but I remember something like that.)
The product on the court hasn't diminished over the last decade, but can the same be said about the product/experience around the team? Going to a game isn't isolated to on-court action, but parking, line-of-sight, facilities, cost of eating, the quality of the 'entertainment', all are part of the package of going to a game.
I'm not saying that the product on the court isn't the overriding concern to go to a game, but the overall experience has to be taken into account as well.
It's been three years since I went to a game (for other reasons), so I might not be as up-to-date on the facilities as others here.
The AT&T Center, when it opened was nice to visit and watch games, but it was lacking personality. The line-of-sight was nice, but crowd noise seemed muted. And lets be honest, the ancillary aspects of the show sucked (and from what I understand still suck). Not only that, the location of the AT&T center wasn't exactly that great; impossible to get to and lousy parking. Has it improved since then?
What I'm driving at is, shame on the fans for not supporting the Spurs. But as others have said, shouldn't the Spurs organization take a hard look at what they're doing to see what improvements they can make to the overall product?
What were sales like for the Nuggets and Suns series, did they sell out right away or was it gameday and still lots of tickets unsold?
I'd assume they sold out fast since melo and iverson were coming to town
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
It's very easy to get to - it's right off the freeway. Parking is very easy and much cheaper and closer to the arena than most other NBA facilities.
Does this mean halftime shows? Yes, they still suckAnd lets be honest, the ancillary aspects of the show sucked (and from what I understand still suck).
IIRC, exits to and from the game used to back-up a lot, there was also that odd bottle neck problem going into the arena, that might have been a by-product of getting that access road fixed though. Access to the arena though, was limited to that one intersection, which would back up a lot (again IIRC).
Parking was poorly laid-out and difficult to navigate, with a lot of bottle necks forming. But yah, parking prices were relatively in-expensive at the time.
But you know, I could just be being insanely nit-picky.
I was so freakin hung over from saturday night i barely had time to brush my teath b4 this past sundays game and ppl were already showing up @ my house
Damn. There is a thin line between endearingly kitschy and "Watching weird Uncle Al get drunk and dance" pathetic, the Spurs have teetering there for a while. Ah well, at least in five years when everything from the late 90s becomes classic, they'll be retro cool.
Does this mean halftime shows? Yes, they still suck
I'm guessing the traffic problems you are talking about were relative to access roads being fixed. There's several ways to get in and out of arena - not just one road/intersection.IIRC, exits to and from the game used to back-up a lot, there was also that odd bottle neck problem going into the arena, that might have been a by-product of getting that access road fixed though. Access to the arena though, was limited to that one intersection, which would back up a lot (again IIRC).
Parking was poorly laid-out and difficult to navigate, with a lot of bottle necks forming. But yah, parking prices were relatively in-expensive at the time.
But you know, I could just be being insanely nit-picky.
The parking situation is pretty basic and always has been since the arena opened. Of course it's crowded as soon as the game ends, but it's not excessive. You can park in any of the arena lots, several offsite lots across AT&T Parkway and across Houston Street. Or just in street parking on the side streets.
But I guess my real point was .. what has changed from last year to this year? Or the year before to this year?
There's nothing "worse" about going to a Spurs game now. So it's weird that WCF tickets aren't selling.
i think we have the worse home crowd of any winning team, watching all the games on tv are boring cause the fans that go just sit there.....last year sean elliot had to make an excuse for one game, saying that the a/c wasn't working so the fans were to hot to cheer....... so no point in going if you ain't gonna scream your ass off, so i'm not surprised these games haven't sold out
Ah ok, it sounds like it's pretty good now, my mistake!
I'm just curious, but is there any info on tracking sales? Like from the move to the Alamodome to the AT&T? And each subsequent year? I'd like to see which demographic has declined the most as a percent of overall sales. It just seems weird that success would equal less sales, it's almost counter-intuitive.
See, the Spurs brand of ball is so boring, that you can't fill your own building during the playoffs!
I bet if the Suns played an exhibition in S.A., you would have a sellout.
Sucks when trolls are speaking the truth.
The only way the Suns get into the game in San Antonio is if they buy a ticket.
When one of these little bitter dip s comes back here who can't blame his own team for ing up, it just makes the satisfaction of beating their asses all the more sweet.
I'm not a troll. More of a sociologist or scientist attempting to ascertain just what kind of mentality Spurs fans possess to believe that Phoenix wasn't cheated and the Spurs' "victory" isn't tainted.
Seriously, what could possibly be the reason here?
Are you waiting for Lisa Marie Presley to show up again?
We won, you lost. Go complain to Amare and Diaw. It's their fault they got suspended.
The Spurs aren't boring but the Spurs are guilty of letting themselves be labled as boring.
A scientist could explain why Amare and Boris couldn't follow a simple rule.
So spurfans are buying that myth now?
It's been discussed here ad nauseum.
But to sum it up, Amare is a dumb azz.
Sorry, but the organization has to bear some of the blame for this. It's horrible PR for them not to be able to sell out the games on the heels of the whining by the rest of the country. It seems like they would have been willing to do anything to prevent that from being the lead story on ESPN.
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