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    faggy opinion + certainty Mark Celibate's Avatar
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    Harden is a loser who doesn't know how to win. MVP had 2 shots at home to beat Golden St and got decimated in both attempts. It's not even that he lost but he didn't show up and got destroyed. He's soft and ref reliant and when he doesn't get his usual flopping calls then he takes himself out of the game. It's over for Houston, they put all their eggs in one basket last year and choked it. It was considered a genius move by Morey bc they would've beaten Golden St had CP3 not gotten injured and probably ring against Cleveland. Until you factor in that CP3 has gotten hurt in like every single playoff series he's been in for like the last 5 years. It was almost 100% guaranteed he was going to get injured. Now they have to pay an old injured point guard like 40 million a year and Harden will do his usual feasting of meaningless regular season games but the moment all eyes are on him in a must win/big game, he will wilt under pressure like he does every single time.
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    It's actually harder to find a big game that he won tbh than the ones he choked
    Dumb logic. What about the fact that he took one of the most stacked teams ever to the brink of elimination despite a huge talent disadvantage?

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    Harden games the system in today’s nba but his game is flawed in a sense that he is not close to as dominant as his regular season self if the game isn’t called like today’s ultra soft era.

    His genius is that he learned to exploit the system
    His failure is that he didn’t learn to counter when that loophole is closed in the playoffs, and he’s had six years to do so.

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    Dumb logic. What about the fact that he took one of the most stacked teams ever to the brink of elimination despite a huge talent disadvantage?
    Chris Paul carried the Rockets that year. I live in Houston dude and was rooting for the Rockets. But the second Rockets lost Paul I knew that season was over and it had nothing to do with the talent. Rockets had the MVP and everybody knew that he wouldn't play like the MVP back here at home. It's a habit with him in the playoffs. Here was the offense in the last 5 minutes of the game and why Rockets won't win a chip with him: dribble dribble dribble, step back 3 point attempt. Dribble Dribble Dribble, oh man I ran out the clock and have no shot so let me pass it to Eric Gordon with no time left. He WILTS. It's not dumb logic, it's a fact.

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    Actually they didn’t get decimated in both attempts. They lost by 9 in game 7. The same game Ariza went 0 for 12 lol

    But tell me again how that is supposed to beat 3 All stars. I’ll be waiting.
    Hard to win shooting 2 for 13 from 3 point land himself. I expected the MVP to play like an MVP and overcome. It's why you guys on DRob to this day. I mean he was double and tripled team all seried long while single covering Hakeem yet that is never brought up by anybody. History remembers winners and Harden isn't a winner. I just wanted him to play like an MVP in those games and he didn't. It's that simple. Rewatch the end of those games and tell me that he performed well. He had an opportunity to close out (like you brought up) and he didn't. It was the worst basketball by an MVP i had ever seen since Lebron in the finals during the clutch moments.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Hard to win shooting 2 for 13 from 3 point land himself. I expected the MVP to play like an MVP and overcome. It's why you guys on DRob to this day. I mean he was double and tripled team all seried long while single covering Hakeem yet that is never brought up by anybody. History remembers winners and Harden isn't a winner. I just wanted him to play like an MVP in those games and he didn't. It's that simple. Rewatch the end of those games and tell me that he performed well. He had an opportunity to close out (like you brought up) and he didn't. It was the worst basketball by an MVP i had ever seen since Lebron in the finals during the clutch moments.
    Yeah you are right. It’s hard to beat FOUR all stars that way even though you score 30 points. Pretty sure you need the rest of your cast who aren’t all stars, one in the starting lineup, to score at least single digits instead of zero.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Chris Paul carried the Rockets that year. I live in Houston dude and was rooting for the Rockets. But the second Rockets lost Paul I knew that season was over and it had nothing to do with the talent. Rockets had the MVP and everybody knew that he wouldn't play like the MVP back here at home. It's a habit with him in the playoffs. Here was the offense in the last 5 minutes of the game and why Rockets won't win a chip with him: dribble dribble dribble, step back 3 point attempt. Dribble Dribble Dribble, oh man I ran out the clock and have no shot so let me pass it to Eric Gordon with no time left. He WILTS. It's not dumb logic, it's a fact.
    Harden averaged more points and assists than Paul in both the Regular season and playoffs. So carry, no. Paul and Harden together were hard to stop. Btw, you still didn’t answer my question. How do you beat 4 all stars, two 10 players with your bench consisting of Joe Johnson and Ryan Anderson for Game 7, and your starting Foward scoring zero points?

    Because when Hakeem kicked David’s ass i certainly don’t believe Hakeem had that kind of talent around him.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Btw, to whip on your dumbass some more. Paul made Curry work on defense. When he got hurt the Rockets lost that advantage.

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    Harden averaged more points and assists than Paul in both the Regular season and playoffs. So carry, no. Paul and Harden together were hard to stop. Btw, you still didn’t answer my question. How do you beat 4 all stars, two 10 players with your bench consisting of Joe Johnson and Ryan Anderson for Game 7, and your starting Foward scoring zero points?

    Because when Hakeem kicked David’s ass i certainly don’t believe Hakeem had that kind of talent around him.
    And yet they went to Paul every single time down the stretch. You didn't whip me at all. You point to averages but my point is his horrible crunch time numbers. I already said I didn't expect him to win, but I expected him to do better. He crapped the bed down the stretch. Harden switched onto Curry offensively alot during the games without Paul and Curry held his own defensively with no help. So Harden didn't make Curry work on defense bc Curry owned him. He scored twice on him and then no time after that once Curry figured him out. It's not whipping me to say that Paul made Curry work on defense bc that was my whole point. For that series, Paul was the MVP. Harden can stat pad all he wants, but at the end of games, who did Houston go to? Paul or Harden? At the end of games, who delivered for Houston, Paul or Harden? Who was the fire for Houston that series, Paul or Harden? All three answers are Paul. Now go ahead and be the one Houston fan who defends Harden til he's blue in the face, but you'll still be left ringless.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Kyrie delivered the game winning shot against the Warriors. That made him better than LeBron? Not sure I remember LeBron beating the warriors without an all star PG. Btw, Chris made his first conference finals playing next to who?

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Remind me again who was it that helped Paul to the conference Finals?

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    [QUOTE=djohn2oo8;9649328]. Btw, you still didn’t answer my question. How do you beat 4 all stars, two 10 players with your bench consisting of Joe Johnson and Ryan Anderson for Game 7, and your starting Foward scoring zero points?
    Strawman argument. If you bothered to actually read what I said (literally my second sentence clarifies what I meant), I already acknowledged that I didn't expect him to win, but I did expect him to play better. Especially during crunch time. If you're ok with his play down the stretch of games 6 and 7 then you're also ok with this being his peak. He went to the western conference finals player as a lead dog twice. There's no shame in that I suppose. It's more than westbrook has done.

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    Kyrie delivered the game winning shot against the Warriors. That made him better than LeBron? Not sure I remember LeBron beating the warriors without an all star PG. Btw, Chris made his first conference finals playing next to who?
    So are you saying that James Harden played amazing in crunch time? That he played so damn perfect that he can't possibly play any better? Do you even want the Rockets to ring? Serious question, are you even a fan of the Rockets? Harden NEEDS to improve in crunch time for them to have a chance to ring. That's a fact.

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    [QUOTE=Kobe'sAchilles;9649357]
    . Btw, you still didn’t answer my question. How do you beat 4 all stars, two 10 players with your bench consisting of Joe Johnson and Ryan Anderson for Game 7, and your starting Foward scoring zero points?
    Strawman argument. If you bothered to actually read what I said (literally my second sentence clarifies what I meant), I already acknowledged that I didn't expect him to win, but I did expect him to play better. Especially during crunch time. If you're ok with his play down the stretch of games 6 and 7 then you're also ok with this being his peak. He went to the western conference finals player as a lead dog twice. There's no shame in that I suppose. It's more than westbrook has done.
    And you say he played bad down the stretch. So did ALL of the 3 points shooters. The main 3 point shooters, Ariza didn’t score once. 0 for 12. Gordon went 2 for 12 from 3. Harden went 2 for 13 and still managed to shoot 41% that game. Ariza shot 0 percent. A 36% 3 point shooter for the entire playoffs couldn’t hit 1 three. They are in better position to win if Ariza hits just three 3’s for the whole game. 0 for 12 in a game 7?

    Golden State hit 16 3’s that game. Houston 7 and that was the difference in the game. Houston not hitting 3’s.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    So are you saying that James Harden played amazing in crunch time? That he played so damn perfect that he can't possibly play any better? Do you even want the Rockets to ring? Serious question, are you even a fan of the Rockets? Harden NEEDS to improve in crunch time for them to have a chance to ring. That's a fact.
    The Rockets as a team hit 7 threes that entire game. That’s a fact. One player ain’t beating the Warriors.

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    No he really does. When the refs stop calling all the touch fouls and going for his flops in the postseason you see how he keeps ting the bed.
    Yep, while the other team goes fast break 5 on 4 because he's staring down the ref

    Today's NBA

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    Harden just had 27fta

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    Putrid.

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    Man tonight Harden is doing it with minimal flops and FT attempts

    Like I said he doesn't need the crappy refs to do work.
    Maybe he will choke come playoffs ...but THIS version of Harden is the one that I actually enjoy watching ..and is a legit MVP choice.

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    rockets fck up by giving up too much to get injury prone cp3

    then the stupid trade for carmelo

    they like the spurs didnt need to do in the summers, instead got rid of their best perimeter defenders and now look like a pos team

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    How I wish derozan can play like harden

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    Shows me you don’t really watch the games. Most of his fouls are driving to the basket. And a lot of times he sticks the ball out so defenders will reach. That’s literally why the scouting report on him tells defenders not to reach lol

    Nicca please i watch him plenty ...

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    Wow, tie game. Rockets might actually pull this out.

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    Nice games tonight.

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    Lol taking a deep contested 3 instead of driving to the hoop

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    Absolutely the tiest look to end a game.

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