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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Chinook doesn't like when teams trade for players

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    coffee is for closers Infinite_limit's Avatar
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    Oh. He was no longer on the Nuggets?

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    holy , orlando can sign lebron and carmelo and they still get to keep the #4 overall? roll out oladipo/exum/vucevic with lebron/carmelo. that's a load of young talent.

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    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
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    Chinook doesn't like when teams trade for players
    Denver has $66 Million committed to the 2015 cap already. That's bonkers.

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    Denver has $66 Million committed to the 2015 cap already. That's bonkers.
    For a team that probably won't make the playoffs and has virtually no upside..

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    For a team that probably won't make the playoffs and has virtually no upside..
    There ya go---that's the ticket. Use that (66) instead of that other number you and your cohorts have been bandying about without so much as a break to catch your ing breath.

    Savvy?

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    Who else is going to Orlando? Denver don't have the cap space to absorb his contract.

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    Thread forgot to sign into his Jack Sparrow alt.

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    Ew...LeBron...Ew..Melo.

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    Thread forgot to sign into his Jack Sparrow alt.
    Look at Poonsie, God you're handsome at Championship level. Knit shirt, Haggar slacks, white shoes from the '70s.

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    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
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    Who else is going to Orlando? Denver don't have the cap space to absorb his contract.
    They used Iggy's TE.

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    Apparently they were offered Henderson and the 24th pick from the Hornets.

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    If you're LeBron, certainly Anthony/Vucevic/Harris/Oladipo has to look at least as good as Wade/Bosh/Chalmers/Allen with Wade and Allen breaking down. Only downside is going from Philibeaner to Jacque Vaughn at coach. But then you get Kevin Love in 2015 also.
    Orlando would have $12.8mm committed to four guys (Oladipo, Harkless, Nicholson, Fournier) but can cut about $2-$3mm by not exercising the team option on any of the latter ones (or dealing them for a future pick). Cap holds on Vucevic and Harris would take them up to $19+ million (assuming 125% of prior year), so adding in Lebron and Melo at $18mm each, that would bring them to $55mm. No way to get Love added with only $10mm in cap space. If Melo and Lebron were to take less, there might be some flexibility but there would be roster holds on the other ~6 spots.

    Would then have to sequence the new deals to Harris and Vucevic to happen after Love were signed, and some team could come in and screw up your plans as noted by Kevin Pelton on Lowe's podcast.

    It's probably not going to happen, but not impossible...


    On edit, I forgot to factor in the money for this year's first round picks. That cuts another $5 million+ from the money available to Love. So basically, it's Melo+Lebron, the picks and the team that they have today.

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    Afflalo is very tradeable and a decent player. He was so cheap, it didn't matter the ramifications of the deal, you have to do it IMO

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    Afflalo is very tradeable and a decent player. He was so cheap, it didn't matter the ramifications of the deal, you have to do it IMO
    I like him but thought he signed a sizable deal before he was traded ...No?

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    Orlando would have $12.8mm committed to four guys (Oladipo, Harkless, Nicholson, Fournier) but can cut about $2-$3mm by not exercising the team option on any of the latter ones (or dealing them for a future pick). Cap holds on Vucevic and Harris would take them up to $19+ million (assuming 125% of prior year), so adding in Lebron and Melo at $18mm each, that would bring them to $55mm. No way to get Love added with only $10mm in cap space. If Melo and Lebron were to take less, there might be some flexibility but there would be roster holds on the other ~6 spots.

    Would then have to sequence the new deals to Harris and Vucevic to happen after Love were signed, and some team could come in and screw up your plans as noted by Kevin Pelton on Lowe's podcast.

    It's probably not going to happen, but not impossible...


    On edit, I forgot to factor in the money for this year's first round picks. That cuts another $5 million+ from the money available to Love. So basically, it's Melo+Lebron, the picks and the team that they have today.
    Crap, I was thinking those were team options and not qualifying offers on Vucevic+Harris for 2015-16.

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    I like him but thought he signed a sizable deal before he was traded ...No?
    He's got 2 years, 15M left which isn't too bad for his progression. It's a short contract, he's a good player (even if overrated some) and will be easily tradeable (more than their 2nd round pick and Fournier that they gave up). Like I said, regardless, he was just a good value IMO.

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    He's got 2 years, 15M left which isn't too bad for his progression. It's a short contract, he's a good player (even if overrated some) and will be easily tradeable (more than their 2nd round pick and Fournier that they gave up). Like I said, regardless, he was just a good value IMO.
    Not bad like him. Would rather Ariza have at that price, though.

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    ing sucks for the Clippers
    and their fan

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    For a team that probably won't make the playoffs and has virtually no upside..
    no upside? wtf?

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