John Carlos Meets the Spurs

[Splits]

You're really bitter about this guy, aren't you?

Dude just raised a fist.

Or did he do something else to offend you?

He also took off his shoes.

[Birn]

You're really bitter about this guy, aren't you?

Dude just raised a fist.

Or did he do something else to offend you?

The guy hates America and everything we represent. He believes our country was founded illegitimately. He refuses to acknowledge that we are the greatest country on earth that has lifted more people out of poverty and oppression than any other nation on the planet. I don't like people who trash my country. He raised a fist because of the treatment of blacks during the Civil rights movement. Big deal. There were other civil rights leaders doing the same thing all over the country. He was not unique. What makes him different from the leaders at that time is he has developed a belief system that despises American capitalism and free enterprise. He demands ridiculous crap like reparations for all blacks and perpetuates lies regarding current urban issues in the black community. He tried to take Charles Barkley and Stephen A Smith to task for them calling the violent protesters in Ferguson and Baltimore thugs. Barkley didn't back down and told him the whole "hands up don't shoot " meme was a total fabrication. My issue with him is not what he did in 1968 but what he has done since then by trashing our country and working hard to transform it into a European socialist tyrannical system. If he doesn't like our values and ideals he needs to get all his and go.

[ChumpDumper]

The guy hates America and everything we represent. He believes our country was founded illegitimately. He refuses to acknowledge that we are the greatest country on earth that has lifted more people out of poverty and oppression than any other nation on the planet. I don't like people who trash my country. He raised a fist because of the treatment of blacks during the Civil rights movement. Big deal. There were other civil rights leaders doing the same thing all over the country. He was not unique. What makes him different from the leaders at that time is he has developed a belief system that despises American capitalism and free enterprise. He demands ridiculous crap like reparations for all blacks and perpetuates lies regarding current urban issues in the black community. He tried to take Charles Barkley and Stephen A Smith to task for them calling the violent protesters in Ferguson and Baltimore thugs. Barkley didn't back down and told him the whole "hands up don't shoot " meme was a total fabrication. My issue with him is not what he did in 1968 but what he has done since then by trashing our country and working hard to transform it into a European socialist tyrannical system. If he doesn't like our values and ideals he needs to get all his and go.

You've followed this guy very closely these past 50 years.

Or did you just google all that stuff for your speech?

[Splits]

Good to know racism and ultra-nationalism isn't confined to the political sub.

[Birn]

Good to know ignorance, intolerance and ultra radical anti American views isn't confined to the political sub.

[Birn]

Good to know racism and ultra-nationalism isn't confined to the political sub.

Show me one example where I have stated anything racist, asshole. Typical for uninformed s like yourself. Whenever you no longer can argue the merits of an issue you just call someone a racist.

[ChumpDumper]

lol ultra radical

[HI-FI]

Better than Porker tbh

[itzsoweezee]

Best organization in sports. So glad to be a spurs fan. It'll be a sad day when popovich retires.

[Mr. Body]

That's what this guy's problem is exactly. He's bitter that he never became more influential as a progressive radical. He's turned off that today's athletes don't know who he is and that they are incredibly affluent and famous. He actually believes that he made it possible for blacks to enjoy all the success they achieved in sports today. His passion for whatever he believes is no more important or influential than anyone else's passion. He assumes that today's successful black athletes owe him something, which they don't. He needs to get over himself. Pop is showing incredible hubris bringing in this anti American communist. This guy represents nothing meaningful other than to indoctrinate people into a collectivist and statist mentality. John Carlos HATES wealth and actually believes that today's athletes are being enslaved by money and greed which prevents them from protesting his favorite progressive causes. He fails to understand that most of today's athletes can speak for themselves and don't need people of his ilk to tell them how they should think and what they should support. He's intolerance for other views makes his message extremely hypocritical. Bad idea, Pop. You whiffed on this one.

You're ing re ed.

[tmtcsc]

I guess Ted Cruz wasn't available.
............... these are the jokes people, keep up.

[exstatic]

but John Carlos is bitter...

The demands of the protest were 1. Avery Brundage must be removed from being the head of the IOC 2. Banning participation from apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia 3. Hiring more African American coaches and 4. Restoring Muhammad Ali's le (he was stripped because he refused to go to Vietnam).

?? What? No wealth redistribution? The horror...

Psst. All of those were eventually done, because they were the right thing to do.

[Birn]

The demands of the protest were 1. Avery Brundage must be removed from being the head of the IOC 2. Banning participation from apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia 3. Hiring more African American coaches and 4. Restoring Muhammad Ali's le (he was stripped because he refused to go to Vietnam).

?? What? No wealth redistribution? The horror...

Psst. All of those were eventually done, because they were the right thing to do.

Let me help you out, moron. As I've stated previously, my issues with John Carlos relates to his radical views since the 1968 Olympics. Read his book and it will tell you all you need to know about the man and his disdain for the United States and that blacks deserve reparations through direct confiscation of assets from private citizens. He's a radical anti American communist. He was not responsible for the changes that occurred after the 68 Olympics. He likes to think that he was and that's how he has tried to brand himself. 95% of the people on this board had no clue who he was and same thing with pro athletes. Pop whiffed big time on this one. Why not bring in Kim Davis to speak to the team. She was jailed for upholding her religious beliefs and never waivered. She was released ultimately since the court realized that her protests were correct no matter the public backlash she suffered. If the point Pop is making is for athletes to know there are things bigger than basketball then why not her story? The problem with Pop is that he assumes athletes are basically dumb and uninformed so he feels compelled to show them how to think. These are all grown ass men who can think for themselves. Pop is perpetuating the rot of PC culture. Bad bad idea. Best to leave these matters for individuals to learn and decide for themselves.

[Splits]

Birn

[rastaspur]

Birn has anger issues and is re ed. That's a double whammy!

[K...]

Holy , did I just hear pop was going to ship Lenins's body and suit him up to as a rim defender? Something about a eastern European big man with stiff movements. This is outrageous.

I would think, inviting thibs to meet the team would be more controversial. But whatever, it's not like the 1960s ever ended and racism wasn't solved by Reagan in 1983.

[FromWayDowntown]

If there is one consistent criticism of Pop, it is his unwillingness to stray from PC (he only ever says the things that people expect him to say, he's never blunt, and he's almost never offensive) and his insistence that his players are stupid people. His utter inflexibility over time is equalled only by his total unwillingness to ever rock the boat.

And if there are any hallmarks of Pop's teams and the players on those teams, they would include the fact that the players are incurious and coddled people who refuse to act professionally or to perform their jobs with any sort of dignity or grace and are basically unthinking automatons who do only as Popovich tells them. The Spurs players are the walking embodiment of PC run amok.

If he exposed his team only to patriotic, pro-American (never minding that a significant portion of the team isn't actually American), conservative thought, the Spurs would be much better off -- more accountable and professional, at the very least.


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[Birn]

Pop shouldn't feel compelled to bring anybody in to address players on unrelated social issues. He should do that on his own time with voluntary participation from the players. There's literally hundreds of issues that are much bigger than basketball. Pop shouldn't cherry pick his favorite PC issue and shove it down their throats. Just stick to doing your job and stop using the Spurs organization as a cheap platform for ginned up social issues.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, I'm sure the players feel totally oppressed by Pop and forced to believe everything he does.

[FromWayDowntown]

No doubt -- it's entirely unlikely that any of the Spurs had any interest in hearing anything from John Carlos until Popovich forced him on the team.

And racial discrimination, particularly on a team with a roster that is overwhelmingly black, is a ginned up social issue that those guys don't care anything about.

[Warlord23]

The guy hates America and everything we represent.

And you're the kind that loves America, but hates most people living in it.

... European socialist tyrannical system ...

Is that what Rush and Hannity have told you about Europe? Please don't breed.

[Birn]

And you're the kind that loves America, but hates most people living in it.



Is that what Rush and Hannity have told you about Europe? Please don't breed.

Read his books asshole before shooting your mouth off. I love everyone that pledges allegiance to our great country and anyone else who feels like Carlos does about the usa should getthe out of here. I also have news for you, Carlos' primary objective and desire has little to do with race. He uses race as his vehicle to gain a platform but he's totally insincere about it. If he and Pop truly want to raise the consiousness of the Spurs players then we need to be talking about the key central issue of our time which is the deliberate and evil genocide of Christians and moderate Muslims all over the world. Look at all the refugees fleeing Europe to escape death and oppression. Gays and lesbians and Christians killed worldwide by the thousands just because they refuse to reject their belief system. Carlos is completely silent on this issue because it is exactly what he wants to see in our country. Read his book people.

[Splits]

Birn is the next mass school shooter. Better hope you don't live near this guy.

I pledge allegiance, to the flag

What are you, 12?

[Birn]

Real classy. I guess you have nothing else to add to the conversation at hand. Not surprised since I have detailed all the truth bombs regarding comrade John Carlos.

Can't wait for the season to start so we can hopefully focus on basketball instead of anti American filth like John Carlos and his bud Splits.

[ChumpDumper]

You are one angry dude.

truth bmbs