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At #4 NO!...at #8 I could be talked into it, depending who else is available.
Dementia.... that's the best case for drafting Edey at #4..
At #4 NO!...at #8 I could be talked into it, depending who else is available.
It’s funny that people think that the 3 point era came on without resistance. Teams TRIED to go against the grain, and overpower the small ball teams, and it didn’t work for one reason:3>2. It doesn’t matter if you have bigs scoring at 70% at the rim. They can’t out score the long bombers, and they can’t stay on the floor, because they get exploited on defense.
Style of play is always determined by the best players and defenses are adjusted to them.
Warriors run coincided with a lack of great bigs and them having three of the best shooters ever.
Even then, they always had issues with legit bigs. AD did whatever he wanted against them, so did Jokic.
Even LMA did great. I'll never get over that 2017 series not just because I'm a Spurs fan, but as a fan of basketball. Noone can convince me that Spurs didn't find a recipe for that monstrosity.
Anyhow, their lineups worked only because there were no two-way, superstar bigs to match up against them.
Scoring bigs would get ran off the floor on the other side.
That's why I really wanted Giannis to make 2022 finals, it would've been interesting to see how they stop him other than Draymond's flagrants.
With that being said, I absolutely don't want another big to start alongside Wemby unless it's a KAT/Porzingis type that will just sit behind the 3pt line.
Having a non-shooting big next to Wemby would just take away most of his advantages.
not too sure about his fit on this team, but head to head, he punked Clingan.
Style of play,in this case, is determined by the RULES. Not allowing players to fight thru screens, which has been illegal since the rule change in 2015, sounded the death knell of the big man era, and big men in particular. They’re specialists now, who play limited minutes. If you can’t switch, and most bigs can’t, you can be played off the floor. , GS did it to Clint Capela in the playoffs when he was with Houston, and they salary dumped him. He was a really athletic dude, too.
Golden State didn’t win a le until they changed that rule, and then they were unbeatable.
Rules obviously started favoring perimeter players, but that death kneel was just for average bigs. It was just a dry spell with the lack of elite bigs.
They’re specialists now, who play limited minutes. If you can’t switch, and most bigs can’t, you can be played off the floor.
There's no use for bigs like Capela against small lineups if they can't punish undersized opposition., GS did it to Clint Capela in the playoffs when he was with Houston, and they salary dumped him. He was a really athletic dude, too.
And MDA didn't care about punishing lack of size whatsoever unless it was Harden attacking the rim.
Spurs made LMA and 37 year old Pau effective against both Rockets and GSW just a year earlier.
you draft him at 4 if you think he'll be a serviceable PG. I know we have Sochan and Jones so it'll be tough to beat out, but if edy were the pick here i would believe PAFTO knows what he's doing. if he's just a C you get him at 8 and trade wemby for another pic to get a player who complements him. It's really no a hard case to crack.
It worked with Robinson, Duncan, and Perdue. That starting trio gave us multiple les.
Two teams are ideal for Edey….Spurs & Thunder. If neither select him, that will be telling.
It wouldnt be a crazy idea to take him at #8. I can see Victor at wing since he can shoot and has great handles and passing skills. Edey would command the center position with defense and being able to grab tons of rebounds. Why not?
It’s funny how a ton of basketball experts on this board swore a Vic and KP couldn’t work but we all now know that wasn’t true! I’ll do a wait and see on this; for what it’s worth “ I “ think it could work in a big way because we have Vic.
A big part was all the rules changed as the defensive were pretty much neutered all in the name to help team’s offense 3 ball shooters - The Steph Rules
That would be a tussle.
There’s no use for an Edey if he gets played off the floor by switching, and if the y can do it to the more athletic Capela of 5 years ago, they’ll be planning their offense around getting Edey on a guard.
I never said I want Edey or any other traditional big.
My point was just that the style of play in every era is determined by it's best players.
I do feel kinda bad for Edey, who just happens to exist in the wrong era for his type of game. 25 Years ago, he'd be in the running for the #1 pick. That, plus he surprisingly outperformed Clingan in the Combine's athletic testing portion, and still can't (for some) shake the label of "big stiff." I think he'll be better than many think-- look at what Hartenstein is doing for the Knicks... Edey can at least be an effective bench center.
People act like bigs don’t continue to dominate the league.
Yes, the 3pointer has changed the game, and we had a dry spell of elite bigs for a quick Golden State minute, but regular order has been restored.
The last 6 MVPs were elite bigs.
3 of the last 4 champs featured elite bigs.
Unless you have Curry (or a lucky string of injuries to your opponents) you have a hard time lifting a trophy without an elite big.This is why Boston keeps coming up short despite a stacked roster. Maybe this year finally?
Wemby and Chet are redefining what a big is but they’ll carry it forwards.
Meanwhile a slow stiff big like Jokic is the best player on the planet.
No one is questioning whether Eddy will score a lot in the NBA.
If a team decides to build around him and endure the learning curve on defense he will do well.
It’s about the supporting cast, Joker as well as others are insulated by the surrounding players on defense. If OKC would of had Edey, Dallas would’ve been in serious trouble.
^This
Some hate when facts get in the way of a good debate! Furthermore, this dudes stamina is unreal. Trim him down 10 lbs, work on footwork, and voila!
Fun video about how Denver built their defense to protect Jokic from PnR on the outside.
Keep in mind what a terrible defender Jokic is in space and then realize they built a top10 defense with him.
https://youtu.be/XqwTkgj5ORY?si=CYBFBH14ednwPhl2
Chip England or another competent shooting coach gonna have Edey spinnin treys?
It's just not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Edey isn't worthless, but he's limited and isn't starting on a championship caliber team.
So many comments sound like Pop when he didn’t think Scola & TD could play together, which he now admits was a huge mistake. Might have cost us a championship or two during “the gap years”.
sure, the current trend is dominant 3pt shooters, but extremely dominant 2pt scoring combined with good FT & good 3pt shooting could easily become the new winning formula in the NBA.
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