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    If any other Spur gets in, it will be Manu. Phoenix is getting 3 players in. That's a done deal.
    ....if you insist

    But, in what year did that happen that there were 3 players invited from 1 team to the ASG?

    As what the NBA debated last yr. they cannot allow it.

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    Manu already butt whipped the all-stars in the Olympics.

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    What rule disallows 3 players from one team? Look at their statistics. They are one game back from the Spurs. In any other year, their record would probably be 5 games better than the rest of the league. Its pretty simple, they are all in.

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    Manu already butt whipped the all-stars in the Olympics.

    Thats very true. Gold medals don't make allstars in the NBA.

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    Amare averaging 25 +, Nash is a MVP candidate, and Marion has a double double. Sorry, no spur not named Duncan is close to that.

    Get real and take off the blindfold.
    ...reality is:

    if Amare & Marion will play in the ASG w/o Duncan against ShaQ/LeBron/AI, I DON'T THINK THE WEST WILL WIN THIS YEAR. SORRY, TOO

    ..& I will be cheering for AI and the East to win, too

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    Marketing makes all-stars and that's why Manu has a good shot. By play he's a contender and by play he's become one of the most exciting players in the league who opens up a whole new market, Latin America. I expect to see him make it.

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    Here was last year's allstars:

    *Kobe Bryant (L.A. Lakers) G 6-6 220 6
    *Tim Duncan (San Antonio) F 7-0 260 6
    *Steve Francis (Houston) G 6-3 200 3
    *Kevin Garnett (Minnesota) F 6-11 240 7
    *Yao Ming (Houston) C 7-6 310 2
    Ray Allen (Seattle) G 6-5 205 4
    Sam Cassell (Minnesota)** G 6-3 185 1
    Andrei Kirilenko (Utah)** F 6-9 225 1
    Brad Miller (Sacramento) C 7-0 261 2
    Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas) F/C 7-0 245 3
    Shaquille O’Neal (L.A. Lakers) C 7-1 340 11
    Peja Stojakovic (Sacramento) F 6-10 229 3

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    What rule disallows 3 players from one team? Look at their statistics. They are one game back from the Spurs. In any other year, their record would probably be 5 games better than the rest of the league. Its pretty simple, they are all in.
    ...i just want to know the year WHEN that happened-allowing 3 players to the ASG?

    if your answer is:NEVER happened before;

    then, just pray your 3 picks will make it this year. Who knows, the inviting committee might be reading this forum.

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    I have no idea, however, Phoenix is having one of the best years ever in the NBA, including the Spurs.

    They have no bench, their starters do it all. Dude, I don't care if none of them make it, but H O W is it possible for them not to go???????????????

    If any player goes before them, then the selections aren't legit. Objectively, all three of those dudes belong in the allstar game.

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    Here was last year's allstars:

    *Kobe Bryant (L.A. Lakers) G 6-6 220 6
    *Tim Duncan (San Antonio) F 7-0 260 6
    *Steve Francis (Houston) G 6-3 200 3
    *Kevin Garnett (Minnesota) F 6-11 240 7
    *Yao Ming (Houston) C 7-6 310 2
    Ray Allen (Seattle) G 6-5 205 4
    Sam Cassell (Minnesota)** G 6-3 185 1
    Andrei Kirilenko (Utah)** F 6-9 225 1
    Brad Miller (Sacramento) C 7-0 261 2
    Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas) F/C 7-0 245 3
    Shaquille O’Neal (L.A. Lakers) C 7-1 340 11
    Peja Stojakovic (Sacramento) F 6-10 229 3
    ...i didn't see 3(THREE) players from the same team

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    Kareem, Magic, Worthy

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    This is BS, Manu is an All-Star whether the coaches select him or not.

    Gold medal olmypians not in the ASG...? Sounds dumb to me.

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    [QUOTE=SequSpur]
    They have no bench, their starters do it all. /QUOTE]

    NO.

    Steve Nash make it ALL happen. That's why they are winning those games. That's why Amare is having the best season of his career.Marion, too. And the reason Nash an early MVP favorite. Amare & Marion played last season together, they didn't win much.

    Remember, when Nash got injured? Remember those losing streak?

    Nash & Amare are just my picks. Nash for being the top pt. guard this season. Amare as a solid backup for Yao(if Miller can't make it).

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    Sure Milkyway, whatever you say, thats your mo, fine.

    Marion is out, we hear ya.

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    Shawn Marion is at about 20 ppg and 10 rpg.

    He's a great player and DOES deserve to be an all-star.

    HOWEVER, his team scores at a much higher clip than other teams in the league, giving him many more shots.

    AND, he plays nearly 10 more minutes a game than Manu does.

    IF Manu played 40 minutes a game, he'd be a lock for the ASG.

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    This is BS, Manu is an All-Star whether the coaches select him or not.

    Gold medal olmypians not in the ASG...? Sounds dumb to me.
    What do the olympics have to do with the NBA all star game? Nothing. The NBA all star game includes popular player having good seasons in the NBA...not internationally. While a player's international performances might make him more popular worldwide, that doesn't really matter much when you're talking about the reserves.

    If a gold medal makes a player a lock for the all star game, Nocioni should be there, too.

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    If a gold medal makes a player a lock for the all star game, Nocioni should be there, too.
    Nocioni didn't lead his team, Manu did.

    I'm just saying, people vote for the same people year after year in the US.

    Winning a gold medal, and defeating the US 2 consecutive times , you would think that helps...

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    Shawn Marion is at about 20 ppg and 10 rpg.

    He's a great player and DOES deserve to be an all-star.

    HOWEVER, his team scores at a much higher clip than other teams in the league, giving him many more shots.

    AND, he plays nearly 10 more minutes a game than Manu does.

    IF Manu played 40 minutes a game, he'd be a lock for the ASG.
    That's true, but you have to consider a player's ability to play 40 or more mpg into the equation when debating a player's greatness. A player capable of playing 42 minutes per game is going to be more valuable than an identical player capable of playing only 32 minutes per game.

    Manu doesn't get less minutes because Pop doesn't like him or because the Spurs are deep. He gets less minutes than other stars because he isn't capable of playing at a high level for 42 minutes per game every night. He expends lots of energy and gets tired.

    He's at his best when he's playing less than 36 minutes per game. Some players can be fine playing much more. But you have to consider a player's ability to play big minutes when considering his effectiveness.

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    Manu doesn't get less minutes because Pop doesn't like him or because the Spurs are deep. He gets less minutes than other stars because he isn't capable of playing at a high level for 42 minutes per game every night. He expends lots of energy and gets tired.
    That's because he spends so much energy into every single move he makes on the court.

    Other players don't have to do that, but he gives a lot of effort in everything that he does on the court.

    Duncan is a forward, and he doesn't necessarily have to move around as much as Manu.

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    Nocioni didn't lead his team, Manu did.

    I'm just saying, people vote for the same people year after year in the US.

    Winning a gold medal, and defeating the US 2 consecutive times , you would think that helps...
    And it might. But I hope it doesn't.

    NBA all stars should be there because they get it done in the NBA. I'd like Manu to make it, but his performances in another league really shouldn't translate to an all star berth in an entirely different league. If he gets voted in because he's more popular as a result of his international play, that's fine. But the coaches should select him or not select him based solely upon what he's done in the league this season.

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    That's because he spends so much energy into every single move he makes on the court.

    Other players don't have to do that, but he gives a lot of effort in everything that he does on the court.

    Duncan is a forward, and he doesn't necessarily have to move around as much as Manu.
    Or it could be that Manu is so good because he plays with so much effort and energy. If you reduce Manu's energy level by 35%, he isn't going to be a star. If you reduce some other stars' energy level by the same amount, some will still be effective because their games don't rely on creating havoc.

    Manu is as good as many other top two guards, but he wouldn't be if he didn't put forth the effort that we see every night.

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    That's because Manu plays on both ends of the court, doesn't take a rest on the defensive end like Marion does.

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    Hey, I didn't realize it, but Shaq didn't start last year?

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    Hey shortstuff - Talk about being blind. The coaches MUST pick a player from the center position on the ballot. Amare doesn't count, as he was listed as a forward. Learn or burn.

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    Thats very true. Gold medals don't make allstars in the NBA.
    how about 2 NBA les in the last 6 years?

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