There is nothing wrong with George W. Bush.
Damn, this is potentially crippling for the NBA. Well actually, maybe this is what the NBA needs to make it clean house and put in some transparency to regain fan confidence.
If you asked me to name the crooked ref last year in the playoffs, I would have said Foster. I usually don't care enough about refs to notice who is making which calls but I remember Foster making a whole of a lot of bad calls. For example, look at this thread:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2514905
That foul on Parker against Chandler was a joke. That offensive foul on Duncan might have been even worse. I was dumbfounded when I saw those two calls. Now it makes sense.
What other games to Foster call during the playoffs?
Maybe they are just lovers.
I wonder what timvp has to say now about a possible conspiracy. I remember timvp repeatedly denying such a thing could happen in the NBA and of couse his loyal "ass tasters" marcus bryant, T Park, and ChumpDumper always agreed with him.
would not surprise me. did you see Donahy's wife? :
Is his wife that man or the dog?would not surprise me. did you see Donahy's wife? :
I don't recall tlong not hanging on a Spurs fan forum 24/7.
ESPN has the story now...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3487206
I don't know that the implication is that Foster was gambling on games -- more likely that Foster was feeding information to Donaghy, not that I think it's any better. With that, though, there's less of an implication that Foster was pushing outcomes, assuming that there's any validity to the report at all. I'm still stunned that something so inflammatory wouldn't have been a breaking news item on sports sites across the web at this point.
In any event, here's what Foster did in the 2008 playoffs:
Game 1 of CLE/WAS
Game 3 of ORL/TOR
Game 4 of SA/PNX
Game 5 of NO/DAL
Game 6 of DET/PHIL
Game 1 of BOS/CLE
Game 5 of DET/ORL
Game 6 of LAL/UTH
Game 7 of SA/NO
Game 4 of BOS/DET
Game 1 of BOS/LAL
Game 5 of BOS/LAL
Sorry guys, just had to post a reply....
This is a non-starter... for any of you who have been involved in any type of investigation on either side, this information was known the day they got Donaghy's cell phone records months ago ... why this comes out now is simply somebody not being able to keep their mouth shut during an investigation and figuring they can be a hot shot source to fox news.... whoever leaked should be fired... also, the NBA investigative staff has had this same phone record information and I'm sure Foster was investigated before he was allowed to work the playoffs... the NBA can be arrogant at times, but they are not STUPID..
give the conspiracy theories a rest.....
You should be flattered.
Refs need to tke lie detecter test. End this . Those who don't want to on "principle" them. The sport is bigger than they are.
i would like to agree with you. I read the article and the passage below leads me to think otherwise:
FOXNews.com reached Foster at the same cell phone number found in Donaghy’s phone records and asked him if he was being investigated by the NBA, the government or anyone else. “Not that I know of,” he said. He declined to comment on his relationship with Donaghy and the nature of the calls.
When called for comment again on Thursday, a voice message announced the person at this number “is not accepting calls at this time.”
If the investigators didn't check his luds (as Law and Order puts it), then heads need to be rolling quick. It would be in Donaghy's interest to have rolled on this guy by now, though, and it's probably someone from his camp that's leaked it since the NBA isn't doing anything to help him out.
If he was dumb enough to be intentionally making bad calls while the Donaghy thing is going on, then he deserves the idiot of the year award while he's in prison. I have a feeling it will be administered rectally.
It sounds to me as though this information is not news to the NBA or those who are very close to the investigation. It also sounds to me as though Foster has been interviewed about this subject and investigated. That the FBI hasn't indicted him -- it surely knew of these calls long ago -- would seem to say a lot about the nature of the calls. That the NBA allowed Foster to work so many playoff games in 2008, presumably after having knowledge of the connection with Donaghy, is also suggestive of the fact that the league's own investigation (and the reports demonstrate that Foster has been included in that investigation) turned up nothing.
I'm not trying to shill for Scott Foster at all, but I'm taking from the relative disinterest in this story that there's really nothing here. Perhaps I'm too forgiving on that, but I'll presume him innocent until proven otherwise.
Ultimately, I think it's incorrect (based on what we know) to say that Donaghy or even Foster are indicative of some league-wide conspiracy. The fact that Donaghy got away with betting on games he worked is, to me, indicative of the poor oversight of officials. The possibility that Donaghy was doing that while talking relatively openly with another official (about who knows what) is further evidence that the league's administration of its officials has been poor. It doesn't suggest, though, that the league was dictating outcomes of games and it doesn't suggest that Foster was doing anything wrong (other than, perhaps, being a poor official) in 2008.
You're right, they wouldn't do anything stupid like having Joey Crawford ref the pivotal game of Lakers - Spurs and conveniently favor the Lakers down the stretch after he got into a verbal altercation with Tim Duncan last year. Oh wait...
stern let me find my rope
I got a tree
the officiating in the NBA has always been a joke in favor of the glamour.
you're like, totally wrong. Stern has been running the league into the ground since he took over.
I wonder what timvp has to say now about a possible conspiracy. I remember timvp repeatedly denying such a thing could happen in the NBA and of couse his loyal "ass tasters" marcus bryant, T Park, and ChumpDumper always agreed with him.
Yep. Besides insisting that no referee changed the outcome of a game, several insisted (over and over, ad nauseum) that there is no way a referee could change the outcome of a game. And they mocked anyone who suggested otherwise. But if you're wondering if any of them are going to admit that they were smug, arrogant assholes, don't hold your breath.
The phone calls to Foster still aren't the worst of it. The league is playing a really stupid game, and it's going to wind up biting them in the ass. Nobody wants to see the league crippled, but they aren't going to let them get by with claiming that Donoghy was an isolated problem either. If Stern doesn't step up soon, more of the dirty laundry is going to get "leaked" to the press.
For the record, the league and the prosecutors knew about the calls from the beginning. And they decided that they don't conclusively prove that anybody else was involved. So Stern has plausible deniability for his public statement that "to his knowledge" Donoghy was an isolated, rogue official. But they also counted on the do ents not going public.
Whether you call it a full-blown conspiracy or not, there is no doubt that referees did change the outcome of games. And there is no doubt that league officials did influence referees. And if dumb Donoghy hadn't gotten involved with bookies, people would still be insisting that it can't happen.
Hopefully they'll get something on Joey 'Mr. Sense of Humor' Crawford....especially after that non-call when Fisher fouled Barry....
its all fixed when it matters to marketing side of things
Don't fall all over yourselves apologizing to me.
Who was pointing this out about the NBA officials for literally YEARS now?
Oh yeah, that was me!
LakerLanny = Vindicated
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