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hmmm I believe there is a dark knight thread for this....idiot
....is dead.
hmmm I believe there is a dark knight thread for this....idiot
The entire point of what I was trying to say in my original prediction thread, was that we'll never know the true reaction to this movie without that junkie's olsen twin aided suicide.
Every single viewer of the Dark Knight is aware of Ledger's untimely demise. This affects reality and pushes the sequence of events through a different course than would have existed if that guy had just ran a few miles that morning. In my opinion noone would like this movie as much as they have without his drug death because its constantly in the conscious or subconscious mind of the movie viewer. This then adds to the 'mystique' and 'darkness' etc etc this movie claims to provide to the viewer.
One of the many previously unforeseen eventualities will hnaturally be him garnering an oscar from the grave.
Believe me, I was intentionally skeptical about Ledger's performance going in, but it really is good. Not because Heath Ledger died, but because it's really, genuinely, good acting.
I'd like to consider my opinion to be completely objective, but I'm sure it isn't on some level. However, neither is yours. Whether it be at the conscious or subconscious level, you made up your mind to call his performance overrated months before the film even came out.
ledgers performance is waaaaaayy overrated. he did a good job but he did in no way creep me out or give me any kinda chills i get while watching other movie villans. like a hanibal lector or patrick bateman (christian bale) or even other villans have been better.
overall he gets so much praise beacause hes dead. nothing more. it was good but not great or legendary. people dont believe the hype
Same for me. I expected to think it's overrated for the same reason I think Sublime is massively overrated... or Nirvana, or Jason Lee, etc. I'd go as far as to say a part of me WANTED to think the performance was overrated so I would have something to argue with all of the rabid Batman fanboys about.
His Joker blows Nicholson's out of the water...that's really all that needs to be said.
I don't really like the comparing of the two Jokers. Like, I can see why they're being made, but they're both damn good portrayals of the same character, and I like them both because they're character-accurate.
Ledger's Joker basically made this movie. For me, it had nothing to do with getting goosebumps or stupid like that. When you watched him move, talk, do that thing he does with his mouth, everything about his character screamed deranged psychopath, and all of it done with the kind of subtlety that made it look so natural.
Add to this his ability to introduce humor without having it come out as cheesy and contrived, or more importantly breaking out of character, was amazing. I think that was the most difficult aspect of playing a part like the joker. Being able to pull off a balance between lunatic and clown effectively. I tell you, the "magic trick" part had the whole theater laughing so hard you'd think we were watching a comedy.
I agree with whottt in that Ledger blew Nicholson out of the water on this one, and that's a feat all by itself.
I am surprised the end credits roll did not have "The Joker as HIMSELF", that's how good it was. If you have seen any Heath Ledger movie he made before Batman, you just won't recognize him at all. His sudden death is even more haunting after you see the film, since Ledger was basically the Joker's final victim.
Yeah. Not necessarily overrated, but misrated for sure. But the world needs people like me to counteract the others. I'll still see it, when it hits the dollar theaters. Probably in half a year.
you are so alone, you just quoted and insulted yourself
that is SO COLD!
but I
Dark Knight!
more like BOROPHYLL
Seriously though, who would have EVER thought that batman2229828288282 would create a thread focused on Heath Ledger instead of the actual movie based on a character named BAT-MAN
who would have thought?
does noone else see the irony? o??? Am I wearing marriott goggles or what? Am I the crazy one? Am I on a ing island?
This is life people, you can't ing make this up.
Batman98730497592805709234 was shot.
His name is batman and he starts a thread about the star of Brokeback Mountain and Ten Things I hate About You.
Not about the movie, or Bale (the actor who plays BATMAN), but Ledger.
Life is weird sometimes.
ask jeeves
Batman32893487537273246896322893047529835782903645 82736459872 is sitting in the VIP section of some club right now remembering when he was shot and talking about how much he loves Heath Ledger.
He's stroking his 99% mexican marriott to the smooth beats of reggeton and salsa music whilst thinking of new ways to prop up the knight from A Knight's Tale.
And please get off of my nuts. I was just doing my job.
He did an amazing job as Joker..
OMG!!! Did you see The Dark Night?
Keith Ledger was so in' good as the Riddler...he better win a grammy.
His performance was so much better than his last movie when he played Johhny Cash!
I hope he is in the next one too!
That black guy from Shawshank was pretty in' good too!
I agree, Heath should get the Oscar posthumously.
As an aside, I watched the trailer to what should be a great movie, Body of Lies which is coming out soon, with in my opinion, the best 2 actors alive, Leonardo DiCaprio and Russell Crowe.
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