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    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    You win with the best talent! You very rarely win with mediocre talent at the highest level...in any profession!


    To say you are not impressed is missing out on his accomplishments. I don't care for Phil Jackson (in a public sense) but you do have to acknowledge his abilities as a coach.

    Furthermore, The Chicago Bulls had Jordan/Pippen before he came and they didn't win a championship until he came.

    The LA Lakers had Shaq/Kobe before he came and they didn't win a championship until he came. Even Shaq has said publicly during their run...that Phil was the difference.

    I don't think it was just coincidence...that he happened to be the coach in both situations.

    Everyone uses the argument that if Phil Jackson would have coached The Hawks or The Clippers to winning a championship that would be more impressive. Well, that would be impressive in taking those teams from bad to good.

    However, it's more impressive to take a team from good to greatness and win consistently. You had superstar egos, executives, hangers-on, and everybody else wanting to be a part of their success. In both cases, the Bulls-two three-peats & the Lakers-one three-peat.

    So Phil Jackson deserves all the credit in the world for doing something that very few coaches have done in all of professional sports. Going from Good to Great!!

    Also, if you ever get a chance...there is a book written by Jim Collins called "Good to Great". He writes about big companies who are good and big companies who are great and their differences. You can apply a lot of those differences...to any profession.

    Horry, who won championships with 3 different teams and played under both Pop and Phil said Pop was better.

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    Coach Coattails #1?!

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    What has Phil done when he has only had one of the best players in the game on his team? Nothing. Pop did it with Duncan and virtually no other top 100's. (D-Rob was valuable but on the decline in 2003.

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    That championship argument is such a folly. It would be like saying Horry was better than Barkley because he has rings. While you must take into consideration those accomplishments, it is not the only thing that matters.

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    D.I.R.T.Y. till we die manufor3's Avatar
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    lets all admit, almost no player is in their correct place

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    PhillyGirl 1Parker1's Avatar
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    How are you going to use Duncan and Robinson, and not mention anything about Jordan/Pippen/Shaq/Kobe?
    My thoughts exactly...

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    Senior Member TheMadHatter's Avatar
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    Phil Jackson - Best coach of all time. Can't be denied.

    Everyone else is a toss-up.

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    Pop has better defensive schemes for his team than a Phil Jackson coached team. Phil Jackson has a much better offensive scheme for his teams with the triangle offense than Pop has ever had. Each has his strengths and weaknesses.

    And I think Jerry Sloan continues to get a little underrated.

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    Believe. MarHill's Avatar
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    Horry, who won championships with 3 different teams and played under both Pop and Phil said Pop was better.

    I like Horry as a player.

    But he left LA with hard feelings after he was blamed for his shooting woes in the 02-03 season.

    So I have to take that comment from him...with an understanding he doesn't care for Phil Jackson.

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    Veteran Indazone's Avatar
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    Why is O'Brian even coaching. He sucks. That being said...no mention of Jeff Van Gundy and Thibodeaux?

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    wtf? Del Negro has never coached a game and is already overrated, you should rank him dead last until after his first season.
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