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the Phins were trying to get a 2nd round pick for him before the draft and couldn't get it then.
Skins lost Daniels for the season without him getting injured Taylor most likely stay in Miami
Because the fans who have a team in the NFC East know the Redskins roster, past, direction and tendencies much better.
the Phins were trying to get a 2nd round pick for him before the draft and couldn't get it then.
Skins lost Daniels for the season without him getting injured Taylor most likely stay in Miami
2 notes:
1) time value of money (and draft picks). a 2nd round pick 1 year from now has less value than a 2nd round pick 2 weeks from now.
2) admittedly, the redskins had a need for him that others team did not. they lost 2 DEs, including a 4 year starter, for the season today. so, of course the price is going to be higher for them than a team that doesn't have a need for another DE. if Philip Daniels has 2 fully functioning ACLs, this deal doesn't get made.
if they don't make this deal, they are looking at demetric evans (9.5 career sacks in 7 years) as their starting left DE. as it is, they definitely upgraded the position for next year.
you make it sound like they're the mid 90s Bengals.
they've been to the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 seasons (including more playoff victories than the cowboys during that span) and still have a nice mix of veterans & young players to work with.
not saying this move vaunts them to the top of the division, but the Giants barely held on to make the playoffs last year before getting hot in January and the Cowboys haven't done squat after December in a very long time. it's the best division in football, but not invincible at the top.
I'm not making it sound like any team from any era...I just pointed out the fact that fans know teams within their division pretty well and are more ready to pick apart every move.
This is a move that a possible superbowl bound team makes...while it certainly helps them this year it just seems to be giving up so much considering the Redskins roster and his 1 year remaining.
So, that makes me wonder if the Redskins have a good idea he's willing to extend his contract 2 or 3 more years. Then that changes this a bit if he both extends and performs.
As a Cowboy fan I actually like it when the division is strong. Makes it much more entertaining...but of course I find great joy in failure as well.
...or a playoff team with a MAJOR hole on that side of the line. also a team that is well aware that the odds of a second round pick outperforming a talented veteran (albeit past his prime) are not good. the fact is that more second round picks fizzle before they've accomplished anything than don't.
i really like the two WRs (Thomas and Kelly) that Washington got in the 2nd round of this past draft. but the odds are pretty solid that - over the next 2 years - Taylor will be of greater value to the team than either of them.
and read the articles, he's backed off his one year statement and told the redskins that he intends to finish out his 2 year deal.
and seriously, in today's league, can we really tell who is a super bowl team and who is not?
who had the giants before last year (or even in november)? *crickets* *crickets*
Good pick up for the Skins might just be able to grab third place now. How do the Skins have cap room to take his contract? Oh well good luck fighting it out for third Skins fan.
skins had over 8 million in cap room. they can take his deal without even renegotiating it (although they probably will anyways).Good pick up for the Skins might just be able to grab third place now. How do the Skins have cap room to take his contract? Oh well good luck fighting it out for third Skins fan.
they are much much better at managing the cap than anybody in the media gives them credit for. over the past decade, they've really only lost 2 free agents that they desperately wanted to keep - Antonio Pierce and Fred Smoot, and both of those players were allowed to leave because they were significantly overpaid (for what they actually produced) by their new clubs, not because of a lack of cap space.
so-called analysts have been predicting the cap to bite the skins for about 10 years now. hasn't happened.
Good deal for both teams. I hope the change of scenario results in Taylor playing poorly against my Boys.
well since JT is married to Zach Thomas's sister the family get togethers became more interesting
nevermind JT and his wife are divorced
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that always made me chuckle. having never seen a picture of her, i could only assume that she looked exactly like zach thomas, only with long hair.
Peter King on SIRIUS this morning said they got a commitment from Tyalor's agent that he is for sure staying for 2 years. So that definitely makes the deal better for the Skins.
There is no doubt that the Skins are in the toughest NFC division, so I can understand why you would want taylor. But a second round pick, when the team is not in win now mode/ contention, seems too high of a price to pay.
Add another victory to the Tuna. His disregard for taylor after coming back from dancing with the stars, was all a covert operation to get a high draft pick.
Why are they not in a win now/contention mode?
Down the stretch last year, they were playing ball about as well as anybody not named the Pats. And that was with their QB, 2 of their best OL, best CB and 2nd best LB on the shelf. And that does not include their best overall defender - a true gamechanger - who died halfway through the season.
Besides, in TODAY's NFL, can we really tell who is a contender and who is not?
The last time Taylor saw the Cowboys he was so frustrated by getting stonewalled that he started ing with the signs that Cowboys fans were putting up behind one of the end zones.
The tuna at it again, can't believe he snaked a 2nd as part of this negotiation.
Under Snyder, going for high profile veterans has never worked for the skins in the past, what makes people think its going to work now.
Plus what about next year, are they going to regulate Daniels back to the bench, stunt his growth, so as not to piss off Taylor(if he even plays next year)
For the sake of argument:
I think we would all agree that Taylor is past his prime. But also that he will still likely push for 8-10 sacks over each of the next 2 years. He'll only be 34 at the time his contract runs up.
And as such, let's also speculate that the Redskins just hover where they were last year. The could do better or they could do worse, who knows, but just bear with me for this hypothetical.
Their second round pick last year was #48 overall. Let's assume that doesn't change.
From 2000-2007, the #48 pick was:
2000: Jason Webster
2001: Matt Light
2002: Reche Caldwell
2003: Chris Kelsay
2004: Dontarrius Thomas
2005: Odell Thurman
2006: Cedric Griffin
2007: Justin Durant
Now, Matt Light's been a player. But anybody else on that list you would gladly trade for 15-20 sacks over 2 years, screaming 'NO TAKE BACKS' immediately afterwards.
And if this makes them slightly better and they're picking at #53 next year, then you're talking about an even less impressive group.
This guy will play more than 1 year.He can't make the kind of money anywhere else.The guy goes on a dancing show and all of a sudden he thinks he is going to be a movie star. Thats such a joke. Parcell was smart to get rid of this virus.
He was on a team that went 1-15 last year. Great leader. Thats a difference maker!
Pretty misinformed post.
First, Daniels is 35 years old (2 years older than Taylor). He's still a very good run stopping end. But he only has 5.5 sacks over the past 2 years. If you take away that dominant performance (4 sacks in one game) against Dallas in 2005, he's only got 9.5 sacks over the past 3 years. What kind of growth is going to be stunted? His prostate?
Second, it's actually a big myth that the veteran moves have not worked out for Washington.
Yes - Archuleta, Trotter, Deion, Brandon Lloyd, and Jeff George were busts.
But most of the other veterans have actually pretty productive. Clinton Portis, Marcus Washington, London Fletcher, Andre Carter, Shawn Springs, Cornelius Griffin, Renaldo Wynn, Randy Thomas, Casey Rabach, Laveraneus Coles (who was spun for Santana Moss), Brad Johnson, Bruce Smith, and Mark Carrier all gave production worthy of their contracts, if not exceeding them.
Washington's problems during the Snyder era has primarily been due to two factors: lack of continuity at the top & some terrible luck regarding injuries in some years where they had the personnel to make some noise.
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Yeah and whats your point. I am already used to it. At least everyone in this thread, you excluded follows home town teams. Plus this discussion was about the Skins signing taylor. I just found the Romo man love funny. Nothing was said about the texans, or any of thier qb's. Since you want to change the topic I can play that game too.
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I just heard that Daniels and another defensive end were lost for the season during the skins 1st training camp practice, and the skins made the deal for Taylor shortly after.
Now it makes sense.
Loser talk.
You live in Houston?
Romo >>>>>>> Shaub and you know it.
Plus this discussion was about the Skins signing taylor. I just found the Romo man love funny. Nothing was said about the texans, or any of thier qb's. Since you want to change the topic I can play that game too.
As for Notre Dame, yeah we had a bull year, but I don't make excuses for it.
I could go with the "I'm used to it" routine you go with, but I'm not a loser.
As for the Yanks, they're 4 games out of first and 3 games out of second. They're 3 games out of the Wild Card. And, there's still a load of baseball to play.
Hey, can you tell me where the Astros are at in their division and where they stand in the Wild Card chase?
Take your time.
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