Is Ricky Davis our Saviour?!?

[tp2021]

sign him and show finley the door.
dont let it hit ya where the good lord split ya.

[Solid D]

With Finley and Barry and a smaller front line, the Spurs have been allowing .445+ FG% the past 2 seasons. They were able to cover that up in 2006-07 but not in 2008, especially with Manu hurting.

I wanted to see the Spurs shore up their D a bit...but since Posey is gone and Barnes is too, now...I'd prefer the Spurs try to make sure they bring in Kurt Thomas and then get a cheaper player like Kasib Powell. Powell isn't any better defensively but he can give them scoring and he's cheaper. Javtokas is running in a background job processing in the recesses of my brain. Is he committed this year yet (Dynamo?)? If available, he would be my next move if Thomas signs elsewhere.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Weeks ago when people were talking about him being a good pickup, I didn't like the idea. I thought he'd get decent money and I didn't think he'd be worth it. But now that Mason/Udoka are the 3rd and 4th wings, it doesn't really matter too much who the 5th guy is. Nobody who is available is going to really make an impact. They could go with defense and pick up QRoss, or go with offense with someone like Ricky.

Whatever happens, we need to hope Bruce doesn't start dropping off rapidly and Manu can stay healthy because the reserves aren't very good. Hopefully Mason can continue to improve and be worthy of a good number of minutes.

We've got enough defensive specialists. Grab the best guy left at putting the ball in the hoop, which at this point means Davis should be at or near the top of the list.

[Bruno]

I like the idea of Ricky Davis. In Spurs case, I take the talented player over the good guy.
I take Davis over Finley but I'm not Spurs FO and it seems likely that Spurs will re-sign Finley.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I like the idea of Ricky Davis. In Spurs case, I take the talented player over the good guy.
I take Davis over Finley but I'm not Spurs FO and it seems likely that Spurs will re-sign Finley.

I agree with you, sadly. It's looking more and more like we sign Finley.

It's ridiculous to think that they have embraced a youth movement of sorts with their role players yet decide to keep the slowest, most one dimensional perimeter player out of their veterans.

Pop needs to get over the fact that Finley came for cheap a couple of years back.

[Solid D]

The Spurs frequently take slightly less talented guys who are solid people willing to play unselfishly within a system. I'm not sure Ricky Davis fits that bill.

[spursnatic]

I really hope not, but it might just have to be...I will say that I would rather have him than Finley. Yes, Finley's a much better locker room guy and all-around citizen, but we need talent.

Apparently Mr. Davis wants to rehab his career


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...etroit-pistons

Apparently there is no money for middle class FA's out there,
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9545

Yes, it's hoopsworld, but they have a point. With Ricky's rep around the league, he's not going to get paid. He might as well try to win a ring while rehabbing his rep a bit. If he wants to be a starter, the only guy he really has to beat out is Mason.
He's got a decent shot at it, just because of defensive matchups. Mason's only 6'5", Manu's 6'6", Hill is 6'2", Tony is 6'2", Udoka is 6'5". The only guy who really has a shot against bigger Wings (SF's & SG's ) is Bowen at 6'7". Ricky Davis is also 6'7", and is slightly thicker than Bowen.

I would rather have both to be honest with you! I don't know what the everyone has against Finley? Maybe it's because he is an ex Maverick? But who cares, he has really helped this team throughout the last few years. And all anyone ever does is bash him. Yes, sometimes he goes through slumps, but so does Ginobili, Parker etc. So come on guys let's give him some credit. He has averaged over 10 pts. per game and that's on top of having to split time with Ginobili and Bowen. And you never see him about it either or say he wants to be traded or any of that? So that means he is 4th in scoring on the whole team. And which he has the potential to be even higher, but he is a team player. Yes his better years are a little behind him, but trust me? He still has what it takes to help us get over the top!!

[Solid D]

RC Buford said during the game yesterday that Brent Barry and Robert Horry won't be back but he didn't say, Mike Finley won't be back. If the Spurs sign Finley, which is likely, then I would like to see them sign a defensive-minded Big. The defense just seems to get stingier when the Spurs can get that extra shot inhibiter in there.

I went back and checked and saw that in the past 30 days, Kasib Powell was given a qualifying offer by the Heat making him a RFA. If the Fin thing did fall through, he would be more trouble to sign than I thought.

[tp2021]

I would rather have both to be honest with you! I don't know what the everyone has against Finley? Maybe it's because he is an ex Maverick? But who cares, he has really helped this team throughout the last few years. And all anyone ever does is bash him. Yes, sometimes he goes through slumps, but so does Ginobili, Parker etc. So come on guys let's give him some credit. He has averaged over 10 pts. per game and that's on top of having to split time with Ginobili and Bowen. And you never see him about it either or say he wants to be traded or any of that? So that means he is 4th in scoring on the whole team. And which he has the potential to be even higher, but he is a team player. Yes his better years are a little behind him, but trust me? He still has what it takes to help us get over the top!!

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[MarHill]

Ricky Davis our savior...NO I don't think so!!!!

The Spurs should definitely pass on this guy. Yes, he has talent. Just because you have talent doesn't mean you take him and I know he would not fit with this team.

Also, I know everybody is bagging on Finley. But, I definitely rather have him than Davis.

Chemistry is just as important as talent and Finley fits well with this team.

Finley has made some big shots for this team (Game 1 of Spurs-Suns this year, Spurs-Knicks game this season at MSG, Spurs-Lakers of '07 regular season, Spurs-Nuggets Game 5 of 1st Round '07 playoff series).

Yes, he's been inconsistent but I would take him over Davis any day of the week.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Chemistry is just as important as talent

Not when the player no longer possesses any talent. Finley is toast. Bringing him back would be tantamount to bringing Sean Elliott out of retirement in the name of "chemistry."

[Spurtacus]

I thought Pop had been quoted saying he wants Finley back.

[MarHill]

Not when the player no longer possesses any talent. Finley is toast. Bringing him back would be tantamount to bringing Sean Elliott out of retirement in the name of "chemistry."

Finley doesn't have any talent?

What Spurs games have you been watching the last three years? The man can still hit big shots! I just listed several games in my last post where he hit shots at crucial points in important games.

Yes, he sucks on defense.

But I rather have him than Ricky Davis!!! When did Ricky Davis ever hit a big shot???????

[Spurtacus]

Finley doesn't have any talent?

What Spurs games have you been watching the last three years? The man can still hit big shots! I just listed several games in my last post where he hit shots at crucial points in important games.

Yes, he sucks on defense.

But I rather have him than Ricky Davis!!! When did Ricky Davis ever hit a big shot???????

41% shooting from a guy who gets open looks half the time? Not saying I want Davis but I would like someone who can shoot better than 41% and not be a defensive liability. Hopefully Roger Mason will step into that starting role that was held by Finley.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Finley doesn't have any talent?

What Spurs games have you been watching? The man can still hit big shots! I just listed several games in my last post where he hit shots in crucial points in important games.

Yes, he sucks on defense.

But I rather have him than Ricky Davis!!! When did Ricky Davis ever hit a big shot???????

Finley shot 41% from the field and 37% on 3's - horrible percentages when your one remaining attribute is supposedly your ability as a spot-up-only shooter. Even Roger Mason shot better than that last season. Finley's production, per-minute averages, and shooting percentages have declined every year, and now he's a year older and a year slower, and every other facet of his game is horrendous. He's about as mobile as Fred Sanford and the Spurs are NOT a better team when he's on the floor. If you think that trend is going to suddenly reverse itself, you're either in complete denial or mildly re ed.

[Marcus Bryant]

Not the prototypical Spur, but he did shoot 40.1% on 643 3pt FG attempts over the last two seasons. Considering he did that last year with Shaq playing in less than half of the games he played in last season (Davis didn't miss a game and averaged 36 minutes a night) that's not too bad. Only 28 years old. But he has played for 5 teams already in his NBA career.

[MarHill]

Finley shot 41% from the field and 37% on 3's - not very good when you're one remaining attribute is supposedly your ability as a spot-up shooter. Even Roger Mason shot better than that last season. Finley's production, per-minute averages, and shooting percentages have declined every year, and now he's a year older and a year slower. He's about as mobile as Fred Sanford and the Spurs are NOT a better team when he's on the floor. If you think that trend is going to suddenly reverse itself, you're either in complete denial or mildly re ed.

I'm not in denial or re ed. But...if you want to have a guy who has been a complete cancer on every team he has been..then take him!!!

I personally don't! Sorry!!

Yes, I know Finley is a year older and a year slower. I would rather take him on my team as 10th or 11th man who can still shots in important stretches of a game.

Ricky Davis is nothing but a ball-hog and selfish player. I would prefer a team-first guy over him...even if he's older and a little bit slower.

[The Franchise]

If Ricky Davis is anyones saviour there ed.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Ricky Davis is nothing but a ball-hog and selfish player. I would prefer a team-first guy over him...even if he's older and a little bit slower.

Might want to check the facts first before throwing out the "ball-hog" accusations. Ricky Davis averaged FEWER shot attempts per/40 minutes last year than Finley (never mind the fact that he also converted them at a higher rate) and averaged MORE assists per/40 minutes than Finley (3.7 to 2.1). If Davis is a ball-hog then Finley must be a ball-elephant.

[Spurtacus]

Might want to check the facts first before throwing out the "ball-hog" accusations. Ricky Davis averaged FEWER shot attempts per/40 minutes last year than Finley (never mind the fact that he also converted them at a higher rate) and averaged MORE assists per/40 minutes than Finley (3.7 to 2.1). If Davis is a ball-hog then Finley must be a ball-elephant.

[AC#21_TD ERA]

At the start of the off season I said no chance in . But it can’t get any worse now so why not. If it fails then trade, waive him. This guy can play but he's selfish. But sometimes in order to continue to be successful you have to give talent a chance and take risks.

[Buddy Holly]

Davis > Finley

Let's be realistic.

[Steve-O-Matic]

This guy can play but he's selfish.

Again, I'd like to know what the measuring stick is for "selfishness" that you people are using. Davis' Assist Ratio last season was 18.1, which was substantially higher than that of Finley (a horrid 11.8), as well as both of our SF's - Bowen and Udoka (Davis' primary position is SF). Additionally, during the previous season, Davis' Assist Ratio of 21.3 ranked him 6th among all SF's in the entire NBA. For his career, Davis has averaged 4.5 assists per/40 minutes. Finley has averaged 3.6. Davis has also averaged fewer shot attempts per minute over his career than Finley, despite having a higher overall shooting percentage. If all of that makes Davis "selfish," so be it, because I'll take that from one of my backup swingmen any day of the week.

[angelbelow]

if he wants to come for the LLE why the not.

[Obstructed_View]

Finely didn't.

Look at the picture again, go back to the post I was quoting and re-read it.