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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    And BTW...Maliki's manipulation of our election is impressive....it gives me faith the Iraqis will get the hang of Democracy real fast....I actually wonder if that idea came from Iraq or from the Obama camp. If it's Obama that gave him that idea then that actually makes Obama an excellent choice for this next phase of taking Democracy to the ME, to help the Iraqis strengthen their Democracy by showing them how ours works from the inside out...at the same time, if it's Obama that gave him that idea and he's doing it on Obama's advice instead of truly feeling that the country is ready to take the next step...that is incredibly stupid on the part of Obama Maliki.

    Hopefully Maliki came up with it on his own or it was a collaborative effort...as that bodes well for Democracy in Iraq and our relations with them....and hopefully Maliki isn't rushing it.
    Bush tried to strong arm him with the "security agreement" (but it's not an actual "treaty", honest!) that included unilateral control of Iraqi airspace; legal immunity for all U.S. troops and contractors; the unilateral right to arrest and detain any Iraqis his commanders desired, and for unspecified periods; and several military bases, and Maliki responded with "lame duck says what?"

    I don't think it would have been necessary for Obama to suggest it to Maliki; Maliki already knew that being seen as a stooge of a foreign government was politically untenable and unsustainable.

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    I will probably be voting for Obama inspite of the fact that I don't like the fact that he doesn't put his hand over his heart and I don't think he loves this country...

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    Even McCain is supporting Obama's plan now...


    "I was against the withdrawal timetable before I was for it!"

    BUFFALO, New York (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain appeared to leave a door open on Monday to a large-scale drawdown of U.S. troops from Iraq in the next two years.

    McCain, who has wrapped up his party's White House nomination, has long argued against setting a timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal.

    After a meeting with former President George H.W. Bush, McCain was asked whether it was conceivable for U.S. troops to be fully pulled out of Iraq in about two years.

    "I think they could be largely withdrawn," the Arizona senator replied, citing the success of the "surge" strategy of increasing U.S. troop levels in increasing security in the country.

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    Bush tried to strong arm him with the "security agreement" (but it's not an actual "treaty", honest!) that included unilateral control of Iraqi airspace; legal immunity for all U.S. troops and contractors; the unilateral right to arrest and detain any Iraqis his commanders desired, and for unspecified periods; and several military bases, and Maliki responded with "lame duck says what?"
    Well hey...it was a worth a try.



    I don't think it would have been necessary for Obama to suggest it to Maliki; Maliki already knew that being seen as a stooge of a foreign government was politically untenable and unsustainable.


    Yeah well...past attempts to influence our elections by influential mid-eastern leaders have been woefully inept and showed a decided lack of insight into ther American political mind...this one doesn't. This one shows a great deal of insight, so either Maliki is the sharpest ME leader to emerge...perhaps ever, or else someone is giving him some damn good advice...I'm undecided on which is which...Maliki hasn't particularly impressed me as a leader up to this point. And now I am impressed, and it comes at a time when I am simultaneously impressed with some of Obama's manipulations in a similar way.

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    dubya wants the Iraqi elections as scheduled in Octorber to showcase "true democracy" and help Old Senile 95% McKeatingC*nt.

    If Maliki's govt postpones them (noises say very likely), the stooge puppet Maliki will be kicking lame-duck dubya in the nuts, again.

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