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When you don't pass the ball to start with what do you expect?
I doubt it. He could barely pass for .
When you don't pass the ball to start with what do you expect?
Green is better than 90% of the training camp players of these past years.
Unless they didn't like the way he plays in SL, he will receive an invite.
The true question is that "will he accept the training camp invite ?"
Training camp invite are usually almost fully non-guaranteed contract. Players rather go overseas where the money is guaranteed. A player like Tolliver should receive some solid offers form Europe. If Spurs want to have him for their training camp, they will have to guarantee a significant part of his salary.
from what i've seen and IMHO Tolliver deserves a better look than Green... i think it ends up in what you said him accepting being part of the camp...
Cue the people that only look at the first number in that stat line.
This Spurs summer league team seems to have more legitimate prospects than any other in recent memory.
And it couldn't come at a better time given the other developments (or lack thereof) this summer.
This is looking like one of the best drafts the Spurs have ever had.
Both Tolliver and Green started last season in the D-League and went to Europe in February since they were relatively late cuts from their respective training camps. A little guaranteed money could help convince them to do the same thing this season with the Spurs, but might not be necessary if they feel they are close to a call up.
And there's no need to choose between the two. Training camp will have close to 20 players, so they can both be invited.
Agree, Tolliver is deadly accurate both at 3pt line and the free throw line. Amazingly, he's reinvented himself from a center/pf to a shooting sf. He's played also in Europe and seems very comfortable playing the pick and roll.
The Spurs definitely need to include this guy at least in the training camp. I would even go as far as dropping Finley and devellop Tolliver/Gist to play the SF position.
I don't think Tolliver could play anything but PF in the NBA.
Despite only having 6 points, this is a very solid stat line. 6 rebounds and 3 blocked shots for only being 6' 2"? amazing.
I am more of a defensive guy than an offensive guy......however, I want Tolliver in TC. The Spurs lost cause of lack of offense, as well as defensive rebounding outside of Duncan. I know it is the SL, but Tolliver is en fuego. Plus, playing defense in SL is a lot different than playing when you have Duncan, Bowen, and Manu helping you out.
I am not saying he deserves to be on the team.....just that he has earned the chance to compete for a roster spot in TC. Hill and Gist have also earned a chance.
Our roster could end up looking this way
PG - Parker, Hill, Vaughn
SG - Manu, Mason, Tolliver
SF - Bowen, Udoka, Gist
PF - Duncan, Mahimni, ?
C - Thomas, Oberto, Bonner
I still think we need 1 more big man...sure wish we would have signed Patrick O'Bryant.
Put Tolliver behind Ian and the question mark behind Mason.
Why do people have such reading comprehension problems? Tolliver is 6'9", 250. He's a shooting PF and that' it. Him at shooting guard would be comical.
The only question with Tolliver is that he's got a redundant skill set to Bonner. I wonder if they will let those two battle it out in TC/preseason.
Tolliver wins, they trade Bonner. Bonner wins, they send Tolliver to Austin.
Hairston, Gist, and Tolliver, whom I've never heard of (up until now), have impressed more way more than Hill.
Hill seems he could play good in small ball lineup. He rebounds pretty well for his position. With some work with Chip and luck he may turn into a trip-doub machine.
I do think that the Spurs have been reluctant to entertain Bonner trades because no big man besides Horry had his range. If we get two more PFs who can shoot the three, then things might get interesting. Gist and Tolliver have a lot of work to do to make that happen though.
are we attending any other summerleagues or was this our last one?
Two is quite enough.
fair enough.
That's going to be a nice battle. I hope Pop gives Bonner a chance.
forgive me for not knowing his height and position...i have only seen him play once on that crappy feed from Utah. So I put him at SG....what is the big flippin deal....just say he is a PF not a SG and go about your day. No need for childish insults that could be saved for fans that actually deserve it, like Nones and Mavs fans.....hehehehe
But seeing as Tolliver is not the best defender in the world, I would rather have him at SF than PF and move Gist to PF.....Gist is a better defender, rebounder, and shot blocker....he just seems to be the type of low post energy guy we are desperate for....even if he isn't the tallest guy around.
Besides, even if we sign Tolliver, chances are he ends up in Austin for a while so he can work on his interior game and his defense. Cause if he is here, he will only get garbage minutes, if that.
i like tolliver. with a little polishing, i can see him having a david west like impact on the game with his ability to shoot. good shooters are always at a premium in the league.
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