LA was offering a 6 year deal with the mid level exception, IIRC. Spurs gave him that for 7 years.
They offered him a six-year contract starting at $4.5M with a team option for year seven, I believe.Is this true?
Malik's contract was for seven years. Was the Lakers' offer for seven years as well?
I think that was the main problem. They could have offered him a 4-5 years contract and we wouldn't be in any dilemma today.
IIRC, the Lakers offered 6-year, $42 and the Malik decided on Spurs at 7-year, $42.
Princess beats me to it.
Considering what the going rate for bigs was last summer I'd say that 4 years and $27 mil for a 30 year old power forward with Rose's ability isn't exactly that horrible of a deal, especially considering that is a 4 year deal at the mid level exception.
Spurs fans do seem to forget that the alternative to having Rose is to lose him to the team that had bounced them out of the playoffs in two consecutive postseasons. Rose would've been a very nice fit for the Lakers.
I'm sure Spurs fans would've been happy about the Spurs losing him to the Lakers at that particular point, especially when they think about the millions Holt Cat would've saved.
Do you have that in writing? How come the Lakers aren't throwing some bones toward Pop now? You mean to tell me that Pop and RC were scared of Malik leaving? The same two that tried to dump Robinson for Webber only to be saved by KSAT 12 and Peter Holt?
Wasn't Malik going to start for any other team in the Eastern Conference and possibly be an allstar?
I mean, come on, if we are going to play lets make a wish or fairy tale Malik stories and hopes, please send me the memo, because I ain't buying it.
Malik is not very good.
Actually, it was in writing. The media certainly covered that offer from the Lakers.
Had Malik accepted that then you could be starting threads now about how Pop, RC, Holt, and the Coyote suck because the Spurs lost Malik to the Lakers, instead of paying him.
Umm .. of course I don't have the offer in writing.
Here's a couple blurbs about it that are still on the internet. It was definitely in the LA papers at the time.
http://www.ibiblio.org/craig/draft/2...7_lakers.shtmlThe Lakers possess a $4.5 million exception for use in pursuing free agents. Although the Lakers would love to find a super quick point guard, there appear to be few suitable candidates in the free agent pool. In the ongoing search for improvement at the power forward position, the Lakers are likely to inquire regarding a number of free agents. Malik Rose of the Spurs is among players they will likely consider.
Here's the other teams that were after Malik at the time ...
Malik Rose, F/C, Spurs He's undersized (6-7, 255), he went to Drexel and he was a second-round pick--another good match for this group. Rose is a willing role player and solid frontcourt reserve. His numbers are not astounding (9.4 points and 6.0 rebounds), but he is a good defender and smart player. It's hard to imagine Rose leaving San Antonio, but the Lakers will be interested, as will the 76ers, Pacers and Wizards.
Geez! I didn't know the Lakers were involved in that sudden recognition by the Spurs! Holy Smokes!!!!!
Even so, there are a lot of us who thought that Malik coulda been a contender. What he seems to have lacked was the support of the coach... You bet, he's not 7', but he's tall enough and sure as has a solid build, which should have spelled defense to somebody.
Does anybody know the reason behind his continued "malfunction" regarding Pop? Will we ever know the whole story?
I recall those stories, that doesn't mean their true.
I believe the problem is exactly what Marcus said. The salary was inappropriate and Pop and the fans can't let it go.
I am curious to see Malik play for a different team. Lets see what he can do with significant minutes, because he is not going to see them on the Spurs.
Well that's all I can show you. But it was reported, BY THE LAKERS, at the time.I recall those stories, that doesn't mean their true.
Sequ doesn't have a clue. Why do you think the Spurs gave Rose the contract they did? Believe me, they knew what type of player he was before giving him the contract. The main reason they gave him the contract was because they didn't want him going to the Lakers and winning a fist full of championship rings.
The starting salary wasn't inappropriate ... it was less than the MLE. If Malik would have gotten a contract without raises, I don't think anyone would be ing about him making $4M per year. The problem is at the end of contract, he'll be making $7M+. That's only worth it to a team that is playing him solid minutes.The salary was inappropriate and Pop and the fans can't let it go.
You know, I love Malik. If Tim played with the same fire, can you imagine the type of player he is?
Malik makes mistakes, but he has more desire in his pinky than most players in any sport ever have.
I ing respect that, and I hope he sticks with the Spurs untill he can't dive on the floor for a ball anymore.
, the beloved Rasho Nestorovic could learn a thing or 204382390 from Malik.
The thing is, he'll be making $7 mil a year when the average NBA player salary is that. Sure, ultimately if this saga drags on and Rose is not consistently a part of the rotation then you might as well move him. For now it seems that absent the recent hiccup things have been much better this season.
Uhh... Malik is the main tenant of Pop's doghouse. That's a fact. At the time, Malik got that contract it was one of the highest contracts a Spur has ever gotten from this organization, much more than Bruce Bowen who is an annual all NBA defensive player. Malik never was, never has been worthy of any 7 year deal worth 42 million dollars. It was a mistake, it was stupid and if that's what he was offered, they should've let him go. Malik was going to guarantee the Lakers rings? Yeah, I am definitely studying the wrong hoopology. LMAO.
There are 20,000 people that fill chairs in the SBC center, why is he worthy of getting paid for it?
Example A for my original post in this thread.
Maybe a 2 time MVP, Finals MVP, Annual allstar, Olympian and leading his team to the current best record in the league and getting his coach the allstar bid?If Tim played with the same fire, can you imagine the type of player he is?
Is that the fire you are talking about?
You don't think that Rose playing against the team that let him go would have been better than Robert "0-90" Horry in the 2003 Spurs vs. Lakers series? Let's be real.
Funny I recall a host of Spurs fans ripping Duncan for playing soft during last year's series versus the Lakers. I'm sure Sequ wasn't one of them.
Yeah.
The Spurs won that 2003 series due in no small part to the fact that they had the much deeper and physical frontcourt rotation than the Lakers. Who would the Spurs have had in Rose's place as the 1st big off the bench? 57 year old Kevin Willis?
Give it a rest, Malik is not helping any team win a ring.
Without Duncan, the Spurs would be out of San Antonio, and Pop would be flipping burgers. Nough said.
So, the consensus is that Malik can only play if a significant other (TD) is injured and has no worth other than that? What I have found so remarkable about the current Spurs team is the "team" aspect. Send in the bench - Ha! Ha! Ha! The Spurs bench is better than the front line of most compe ors!
If I were Malik Rose, I'd seize every opportunity to shine while stroking my wealth as an entrepreneur. Have any of you ever tried a Philly Cheese Steak from Malik's place? Oh! So good!
But, on the other hand, if I had set my sights on becoming an NBA star, I'd want to prove myself in that venue (even if my cheese steaks made me a millionaire).
What makes me so damned mad is the fact that Malik has been totally thwarted by his coach and team. He'll never know what he can do; he'll never know how high he can go; he'll never be the star of any team because he's been bought by the San Antonio Spurs and is being victimized by a coach who has a love/hate relationship with him.
I'm reminded of a song from long ago, "Let me go, lover."
Malik is successful when teams aren't prepared for him. Just like the Lakers, the dude hadn't played in a long time and suddenly he came in there and the Lakers had no answer for him, rookie coach.
Malik is easily taken out of a game, just pressure him and he will collapse. Simple as that.
Then why was Malik able to play so well when he was a regular part of the rotation? Surely opponents expected him to be on the court then. Yeah, Malik always collapsed under playoff pressure. No doubt.
I'm done with you.
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