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  1. #26
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    broussard is only good for a laugh when you hear his voice and hear him speak. other than that he is useless

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    I will root for Bayless and I do like the talent the Blazers have assembled, but most of my Blazers posts are a good bit tongue in cheek.

    Unfortunately, I'm still a Suns fan.

    I've PMed Kori to change my subhead to read "Effin' Robert Sarver" but I've had no luck just yet. Right now I'm torn between boycotting them to try and get a new owner in (which is the right thing to do), or support them because they've been my sports life for 20 years.

    As for the sinking ship, I'm a Suns fan. When has their ship not been sinking?
    I admire your allegiance. Actually, the Suns now seem to have some direction with Kerr and Porter at the helm.

    BTW, what exactly are your issues with that "chicken-fried" Sarver?

  3. #28
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    What's my issues with Robert Sarver?

    2004, Sarver starts what will be a long running tradition of selling 1st-round picks. This time for a future 1st and a 2004 2nd, passing on the opportunity to land Deng, Iguodala, Al Jefferson and Biedrins.
    04-05, balks at giving Joe Johnson a 6-year, 50 million dollar deal, sticking to his guns at 6 years 45 million, telling JJ to go earn his contract extension, which JJ does, then...
    2005, balks at giving JJ market value. After Redd, Allen and Hughes go for five years and 70 million each (pretty much), Sarver offers JJ 5 years, 50 million, which pisses JJ off, then after Atlanta gets involved, offers five years 60 million, still 10 million below Atlanta's offer.
    2005, Suns trade their acquired 1st to New York as part of an ever evolving package to obtain Kurt Thomas. The initial reports had Thomas and a New York 1st coming to Phoenix for just Quentin Richardson. Next it was straight up. Finally it was Richardson and the acquired 1st to New York for just Kurt Thomas.
    2006, To assert control and send a message that he's the absolute authority when it comes to the Suns, Sarver alienates Bryan Colangelo, running the defending executive of the year off mid-season. Colangelo immediately signs to be Toronto's GM, and is allowed to leave for no compensation given, despite BC still being under contract.
    2006, with both starting big men done the for the year, and minimal bench depth, Sarver opts not to use the several million in a trade exemption to bring in true big man help, despite several quality options being available. Signs Tim Thomas, which works out very well, but then leads to...
    2006, after selling off yet another two draft picks to "save money to resign Tim Thomas", Sarver then low balls the player who almost singlehandedly won them the Lakers series that previous postseason. Thomas wants four years, 20 million, a very reasonable request, but Sarver offers only three years 15 million. Tim takes the Clippers offer, leading to...
    2006, them handing Marcus effin' Banks a 5 year, 23 million contract.
    2006-07, with it very evident that Phoenix needed a backup PG, and with quality options like Lue and Anthony Johnson available, Sarver determines that they have enough players, only to see Nash almost break down in the coming playoffs after D'Antoni played him a career high in minutes.
    2007, Another draft, another sold pick, this time going along with quality rotation player, James Jones, for nothing bu 3 million for Sarver's pockets.
    2007, despite knowing his importance, Sarver greenlights (or mandates) the trading of Kurt Thomas and two future 1st-rounders, neither of which was protected in any way, to Seattle for literally nothing.
    2007-8, after years of feeling illused and ignored, Marion demands to be traded, and his request is granted as he and Banks are packaged together and sent to Miami for an aged Shaquille O'Neal, a move that has yet to may off in anything other than increased jersey sales.
    2008, despite absolutely know for a fact that this team is in dire need for a true back up PG for like the fifth year running, Sarver has ed around and allowed most every FA to sign elsewhere. He is engaged in ongoing discussions to sign acquired 2nd-rounder, Goran Dragic, but price will likely factor in and Mike Wilks appears to be the fallback plan.

    In Sarver's time as owner...

    2004 draft - sells an acquired 05-06 Cleveland 1st to Charlotte for them to take on Jahaidi White's remaining year.
    2004 draft - trades their #7 overall pick to Chicago for a future first, 3 million and a 04-05 second-rounder.
    2005 draft - trades their acquired Chicago pick to New York along with Quentin Richardson to acquire Kurt Thomas.
    2006 draft - trades their acquired Lakers pick to Boston for 3 million and an acquired Cleveland 1st
    2006 draft - trades their own 1st rounder to Portland for 3 million
    2007 draft - trades their acquired Cleveland 1st along with James Jones to Portland for 3 million
    2008 offseason - trades two future Suns 1st along with Kurt Thomas for 3 million

    Imagine if they had kept those picks.

    Players available with said picks?

    2004 (1 pick, 7th overall): Luel Deng, Andre Iguodala, Andris Biedrins, Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, Jameer Nelson, Kevin Martin

    2005 (2 picks, 13 overall, 21st overall): Sean May, Danny Granger, Hakim Warrick, Jarrett Jack, Francisco Garcia, David Lee, Ronny Turiaf, Monta Ellis

    2006 (2 picks, 21st overall, 27th overall): Rajon Rondo, Marcus Williams, Kyle Lowry, Jordan Farmar, Daniel Gibson, Paul Millsap

    2007 (1 pick, 24th overall): Rudy Fernandez, Aaron Brooks, Gabe Pruitt, Marcus Williams, Glen Davis, Marc Gasol

    - Players Alienated/Lowballed/Let Go or Traded For Nothing-
    2004/2005: Joe Johnson
    2005: Steven Hunter and Jim Jackson
    2006: Eddie House and Tim Thomas
    2007: James Jones and Kurt Thomas
    2008: Shawn Marion

    That's a solid team, right there, no?

    - Executives Alienated/Lowballed/Let Go For Nothing -
    2005: Head Scout, Rex Chapman
    2006: General Manager, Bryan Colangelo
    2008: Head Coach, Mike D'Antoni (not that I minded)




    Does this help to answer the question

  4. #29
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    Yeah, but we at Brophy only beat him once I think...
    My cousin just graduated from Brophy this past year... I have lived in Phoenix since I was eight. I have no sense of rivalry or detestment amongst the schools. I root for Bayless because he's an Arizona product in a sport where Arizona maybe has one every handful of years. That's my primary reason. Him going to UA was just gravy

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