we are screwed if they dont. If we are relying on Oberto and Vaughn to play solid minutes this season you can pretty much say goodbye to any plans for another championship. Lets not neglect the franchise's future, at least give the guys a chance.
George Hill..I would be surprised if he doesn't get minutes..the only thing JV has over him is experience..Hill should be a better defender, more athletic, more energy..there isn't really a possibly way that he could actually be WORSE than Vaughn offensively..
we are screwed if they dont. If we are relying on Oberto and Vaughn to play solid minutes this season you can pretty much say goodbye to any plans for another championship. Lets not neglect the franchise's future, at least give the guys a chance.
Here's what I'm hoping for:
By late Dec., 2008
Mahinmi-- 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 15 mpg
Hill-- 3ppg, 1 apg, 1 rpg, 10 mpg
By April 1, 2009
Mahinmi-- 6 ppg, 4 rpg, 20 mpg
Hill-- 6 ppg, 2 apg, 2 rpg, 18 mpg
Last edited by Tully365; 08-15-2008 at 09:53 PM.
I sure hope they can give us more than that. Ian needs to be a 8ppg and 5 rpg in 17 min imo. If not it could be taxing on the old bigs.
If they were playing for Oklahoma City or the Bucks I could imagine more eye-popping numbers, but I don't see them getting those kinds of minutes with a team like the Spurs.
I'd love to see it but it's not going to happen. Not even close.
7 and 6 for Ian would be cool
7 and 3 for George would be a good start
And I don't know why a few posters here have Udoka buried on the bench. He did well for us esp. on the defensive end. I think another year in the system could do wonders for his confidence on the offensive end.
If Hill and Mahinmi average 6 ppg each, that will add up to more than what Horry and Barry totaled per game last season. If Mason averages 10 ppg or more as a starter, that matches Finley's production from last year, and then whatever Finley averages as a reserve will represent a net gain in terms of total points. It's not glamorous, but the pieces are potentially in place for this overall younger Spurs squad to be slightly better offensively than last year's team.
I sure do wish that Gist had stayed though...
22ppg and 10rpg for Mahinmi.
6ppg and 3apg for Hill.
Did you watch the Summer League?
Right now, Hill absolutely IS a D-league player...and I'm not even that sure he would be dominant in that setting.
You're right about the mentoring and time to learn how to play the position, but you give this kid WAY too much credit if you think it can be learned by the time training camp is over with.
Maybe after a few months in the d-league of running a team and getting comfortable with his game, he'll make his debut with the big club...but at this point I don't see it.
He played solid D and showed flashes here or there, but at this point you have to say Vaughn is the safer option.
That would make Mahinmi ROY nevermind Oden, Beasley or Rose.
it will not! Mahinmi is not a rookie
You have confidence in three unproven players. What makes you so confident that all three--or any one of them--will step right in and be successful?
Mason at least has four years in the league--but he rode the bench all that time except for a period last year where injuries forced his team to play him. And it's not like he put up major stats. In 80 games he averaged 20 minutes and 9 points.
You have confidence--I'm looking for the number of dial-a-prayer.
amen to that, just wish pop didnt have this crush on jacque, cos when jacque comes in, he doesnt even defend well anymore. he looked more scared last season then the season before. imo why the spurs held on to him. i dont think the spurs saw jacque's horrible play coming after doing quite well the season before.
Yes, he can play in the D-League for another year. After that he's done.
Done with being sent down to the D-League.
i know i was just teasing you![]()
Please switch Finley with Udoka.
You don't see anything in Austin.
i see ian averaging 25 points 15 rebounds 5 blocks and george hill averaging 15 points 10 rebounds 6 assists and 4 steals.
Did he play in enough games last season? I thought he would be considered a rookie this season as he did not play in enough games.
I hope this was a joke...
so you think playing against NBA talent is kind of infectious?
because Ian currently doesn't show any symptoms that he carries NBA talent.
(ok, sorry I don't want to be to harsh. in fact Ian likely carries as much NBA talent as Elson.)
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