All racist!
I wouldn't necessarily call is racist, but it is definitely racially insensitive.
down with PC!
porch monkeys!!!
This is getting out of hand. Its ok for Dave Chappelle to do it but no one else? People need to calm down. A joke is a joke is a joke. It's going to offend someone. You make a joke about dead babies, offensive. Joke about an American, offensive. Joke about tacos border hoping, offensive. Jokes about Jesus's abs, offensive. But guess what they're all funny. The thing is most funny people don't discriminate who they offend, even themselves in most cases. I think people should concentrate more on the feelings behind a joke and stop raising whenever something offends you.
Just as stupid was the "outrage" over Tropical Thunder because they use the word re . Some people actually started using "the R-word" Are you ing kidding me? Those people should be offended because they are re ed!
Chappelle uses racist stereotypes to show the absurdity of racism and racist stereotypes (and to make people laugh, of course).
The "slanted eye" pics at the Olympics, on the other hand, are simply tasteless and lame.
It's still a joke, just because it's not that great of a joke doesn't mean it's any worse. I'm not even defending what they did, its just ridiculous how "outraged" people get. Shut the up, you babies!
I don't see any outrage in this thread, but yes, I agree that there are much more important things worth getting outraged about.
@ racism
Dave Chappelle is a comedian. The Spanish basketball team are acting as ambassadors of their country in a good will world athletic compe ion in China. It's not about it just being a joke. It's not grade school recess. The joke itself isn't bad. It's not racist. It's the fact that the Spanish team has an international platform where this "joke" takes away from the spirit of the Olympics.
Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock can tell "######" jokes. Think it would be cool if John McCain told a "######" joke at a Republican rally in front of thousands of black people? I mean, it's just a joke.
I agree with your point about the basketball team and being ambassadors. But what does all of this complaining and whining about it do? Will it happen again? yes. Some people will always get offended. who cares.
As to your point about "######" jokes, if he was funny enough and had the balls to do it, then by all means. It wouldn't outrage me and it's a ridculous double standard anyway. Use the word or don't, but don't when someone else uses it. No one has the right to tell anyone on this earth what they can and can not say of their own free will.
They tell "cracker" jokes too. Is that cool? it probably offends some white people but no one gives a if white people get offended.
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But you would understand why people would blast McCain if he did tell "######" jokes in front of thousands of black people. You might not be offended, but you have to understand some people would be, and it would be stupid for McCain to do such a thing. It's not about the joke. It's about the cir stances surrounding when an insensitive joke is being used. Around your close friends, ing around or at a bar with a bunch of drunk people, who cares is exactly right. When you are taking a picture for a newspaper in your national team's uniform representing your country in the Olympics in China, perhaps save "that" particular joke for another time and place. That's the issue. If we want to have fun with racist or borderline racist jokes, it's cool because it's only seen, heard, or otherwise observed by a handful of people and probably people who know us. If someone in the public eye says a borderline racist joke and in the newspaper, in front of a camera, on a stage where the whole world can see, not such a good idea.
I agree with you, I was just glad someone pointed out that there is a double standard for blacks.
Great points. I don't think I've disagreed with a thing you've said. I'm just sick and tired of the press and blogs drumming up the "hate speech" drum everytime someone says or does something dumb. It does nothing to prevent it from happening in the future. It doesn't teach the people a damn thing except to find a new type of hate for PC a-holes and it leads to like this DUMBASS
Here's the youtube
Dallas County Commissioners black hole video
Last edited by romad_20; 08-20-2008 at 12:08 AM.
For any joke, comment, or action to be considered offensive, the offending party declare that they are offended by the gesture. In this case, I've read the Chinese people of Beijing have not yet expressed that sentiment. Until they do, case closed.
Stick your lower lip out so far it curls under, then stick out your tongue a bit.
Last edited by Flight3107; 08-20-2008 at 05:46 PM.
I agree completely. It all has to do with context. Growing up, my best friend was Italian-- he would jokingly called me shanty irish and or whisky mick and I'd call him a dumb wop or greasy guido... but we were best friends, we knew the joke. I wouldn't walk into an Italian restaurant and say the same thing to strangers. And if I accidentally stepped on someone's foot on the subway and they said watch it ya dirty irishman, it just wouldn't be the same scenario either. You have to establish rapport with people before you can joke in certain ways. Chappelle is an established comedian-- no sensible person watches him perform not expecting him to make racial jokes. But he's not only very good at it, he's also pretty fair when it comes to satirizing almost everybody. I understand why some people get frustrated at the PC stuff-- and it does go too far sometimes, but the general rule should be don't purposely do something that would offend a reasonable person. It's no different from meeting someone's parents or interviewing for a job-- just be as respectful as possible. It doesn't mean you can't have a sense of humor, but we all make adjustments every day, and this is another area where making adjustments makes sense. You don't tell the same jokes at a picnic with your grandmother as you would to a bunch of buddies on poker night, and you shouldn't make the same racial jokes around strangers as you would around friends of that same race.
But at the same time, a person shouldn't be accused of being a racist for making a joke about race, if their was no malicious intent behind the joke.
If I were to make a joke about another race to a person of that same race, and it was meant to be humorous and satirical, you could say that I'm being insensitive if that person gets offended... but how could you say I'm being racist? I was joking!
It's important to think about who your audience is when you make a joke about race if you care about the feelings of others. But a non-racist person who makes a racially-oriented joke with no malicious intent shouldn't be tagged as a racist simply because the audience couldn't handle the joke.
And I find it humorous that a group of Spaniards aren't allowed to make slanty-eyed gestures, but it's okay to say that all Spaniards are arrogant. Interesting.
Racism would be less and less of an issue if people weren't so quick to call others racist.
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