Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 58
  1. #26
    Esse quam videri ploto's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    10,994
    Very happy for Goran. He is one of my favorites and will surprise NBA fans who have never seen him play because he can be tenacious. His shot has improved, too.

    This is the second instance that I know of in the past 2 off-seasons where an NBA team helped a player secure a buy-out of a contract when no buy-out was even in the contract. It also was made possible, of course, because they used a second round pick on him.

    The situation with Splitter was created because of the limit of the amount the Spurs could spend on him because of where they drafted him. It is kind of ironic-- because of their problems negotiating with Scola, the Spurs decided to use a first round pick to secure a specific salary amount that could not be negotiated. Then it bit them in the butt because the player simply did not accept that amount then.

  2. #27
    Can't Start Threads
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    2,417
    The Spurs are no fun if they aren't going to take risks!

    Absolutely no balls in having guys like Van Exel play over building talent like Beno Udrih.

    Absolutely no balls by not sigining Scola just to unload a crappy player like Butler.

    Absolutley no balls by not negotiating with Splitter to get him in the NBA. Now both Scola and Dragic from Tau are in the NBA because the other teams are willing to make the commitment.

    We are being hoodwinked by our rivals (Suns and Rockets) because we are all too conservative!

    The best we should do now is give our youth playing time. None of this B.S. of playing Finley for 23 minutes a game!
    what do you expect from an owner who buys the most expensive equipment in construction. and then has his choice of thousands of machine operators that come and go, like day and night. he already has 3 of the best machines in the nba, there is noway holt is gonna waste time looking for another machine to work alongside those 3 on his construction site. its holts way and its holts highway as well

  3. #28
    Can't Start Threads
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    2,417
    I really don't understand how or why Tau agreed to allow Dragic to leave. Did they not think as highly of him as they did Splitter, whom they desparately wanted to retain?

    Furthermore, if Dragic is so ing good, why didn't the Spurs simply keep him for themselves? What do the Spurs see in Hill that they rate him so much better than Dragic? Or was it Dragic's contractual situation that made him such a perceived risk?

    It's frustrating to see several of the Spurs chief rivals fortify their rosters, while the Spurs either give away talent for pennies on the dollar (Scola) or lose out on prime Euro prospects (Splitter, Jaktovas) because of international economics or bad blood between management teams.
    no joke.... if he does sign with the suns, then i too am left wondering what on earth is going on the spurs FO?

  4. #29
    Esse quam videri ploto's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    10,994
    Big ing deal.

    Dragic was never coming.
    Well at least the Suns won't have him for 2-3 years.
    By the time Dragic ends up in Phoenix Shaq and Nash will be 40 years old.
    Nice job Spurs.

    Kerr knows nothing of Tau Ceramica.
    Spurs learned their lesson, and gave the Suns TAU bull to deal with...guess it ain't all that bad. Kerr's a bag.
    Woohoo! Good job Spurs FO. Way to make the Suns look like es again. I'm feeling a little better now...
    Again, I'm sure the fans of Tau will love his game for the next 10 years.
    "A few years"



    Sounds like Buford with Splitter.

    Hes not coming from Tau.

    Give it up Suns fan.

  5. #30
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
    My Team
    Phoenix Suns
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Post Count
    10,116
    All this signals is that Sarver will now turn around and trade either Barbosa or Diaw for a bag of chips and 3 million in pocket change.

  6. #31
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    2,209


    Good find...

    But i guess only Slovenian spurs fans are happy about this

  7. #32
    No Sasha, no ring ata's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    1,366
    Hmm, not really.

    Don't get me wrong, Dragic has potential, however he is not NBA ready at all. He shouldn't have problems on the defensive end (he is quick, agile...) however he offence is not there - especially for NBA standards.

    He may end in the NBDA before new year. I hope he proves me wrong.

    Go Dragic, go!

  8. #33
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    1,971
    what do you expect from an owner who buys the most expensive equipment in construction. and then has his choice of thousands of machine operators that come and go, like day and night. he already has 3 of the best machines in the nba, there is noway holt is gonna waste time looking for another machine to work alongside those 3 on his construction site. its holts way and its holts highway as well

    Uhh...his grandfather was the one who founded Caterpillar, hence the name Holt Caterpillar...here's a little info..


    Holt Caterpillar Tractor

    More about:
    The first practical demonstration of this tractor took place in a peat field on Roberts Island on November 24, 1904, and was patented and in production by December of 1907. The existing machine represents the earliest gasoline-powered track-type tractors that were to help revolutionize agriculture, logging, construction, road building, and transportation around the world. Its design and development is credited to Benjamin Holt (1849-1920), president of the Holt Manufacturing Company of Stockton.

  9. #34
    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    55,054
    ploto

    did you pay up on your lost bet with TIMVP yet over Rasho?

    Thought not.

  10. #35
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    2,209
    ploto

    did you pay up on your lost bet with TIMVP yet over Rasho?

    Thought not.
    What exactly does a bet betwen ploto and timvp has to do with this topic?

    You failed

  11. #36
    God Talks To Me. angel_luv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    24,451
    Hooray, Dragic is in the NBA.
    Boo that he is not playing for the Spurs.
    An even bigger boo that he is playing for the Suns.

  12. #37
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    2,209
    Angel i hope Rasho and Beno dont get each traded a couple of times because your sig will become too big to handle:P

  13. #38
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Post Count
    7,288
    "The Suns considered the idea of drafting Dragic with their 15th overall pick in June if Robin Lopez, their eventual first-round pick, was not available. They ranked Dragic second only to the top overall pick, Chicago's Derrick Rose, among all point guards in the draft."

    Now that makes me wonder, who is better George Hill or Dragic?

    Dragic has got some pretty impressive ball handling skills (based on the videos I watched), seems to be ambidextrous too. He however looks too thin too be a NBA player.

    Hill however is extremely atheletic, however his ball handling skills aren't that great nor is his ability to slash the lane.

    So who did we trade the rights to Dragic? Malik Hairston??! :-(

  14. #39
    God Talks To Me. angel_luv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    24,451
    Angel i hope Rasho and Beno dont get each traded a couple of times because your sig will become too big to handle:P
    No kidding!

    I need both Sho and Beno to get moved to Orlando with Hedo and then I can delete the Pacers and Kings logos.

    I kept the Raptors one because I like Jose Calderon and the Mango tree is for our dearly departed from our team Brent Barry.

  15. #40
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905


    But seriously, why are you holding his play to the same standard?
    In case you haven't noticed, when European players come to the NBA, their defense almost always gets better -- not worse. Like I've said, I've seen Dragic stay in front of Parker. No matter where that occurs, that is definitely noteworthy. I'm not sure that five players on the planet can claim that.

    Hopefully Dragic takes some time to transition and Parker has improved ... but this is definitely not good news for the Spurs.

  16. #41
    Remember kobyz's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Post Count
    4,406
    how weak is R.C Buford?!?!!? Stive Kerr can get a player out of Tau and R.C can't, i dont care from any excuse, R.C should be fired!

  17. #42
    Esse quam videri ploto's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    10,994
    ploto

    did you pay up on your lost bet with TIMVP yet over Rasho?

    Thought not.
    You must have missed our discussion. My bet was based upon the stipulation that Rasho had to be on the Raptors still on June 30, 2008. "Technically" he was but the trade to the Pacers had been agreed to in principle clearly before that date. In addition, I posted in April that Rasho would be picking up his player option in order to play for Slovenia this summer due to the July scheduling of the Olympic qualifier tournament games. Timvp let me off the hook, especially considering that my punishment was a sig that said "I love Jackie Butler" and Timvp was so wrong about him.

  18. #43
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Post Count
    7,288
    how weak is R.C Buford?!?!!? Stive Kerr can get a player out of Tau and R.C can't, i dont care from any excuse, R.C should be fired!
    Yeah, isn't that a real cause to worry.

    That's 2 players now that other NBA teams have negotiated with Tau to be released.

    The least the R.C. can do to redeem himself from the Scola is to at least bring in Splitter.

    It's downright embarrasing for us to be hoodwinked twice by two other NBA teams. The Suns trade up for us and grab Dragic, they didn't that once before and we gave away Barbosa.

    The Rockets are also toying around with our front office.

  19. #44
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    You must have missed our discussion. My bet was based upon the stipulation that Rasho had to be on the Raptors still on June 30, 2008. "Technically" he was
    True, timvp won the bet. Luckily for you I usually don't cash in my bets. I think there are about a good half dozen posters who owe me either cash, sigs or les for losing bets. I just let you join the club.

    In addition, I posted in April that Rasho would be picking up his player option in order to play for Slovenia this summer due to the July scheduling of the Olympic qualifier tournament games.
    Link? Last time I asked for that link, you didn't come through. I just looked at your April posts and I don't see such a post.

    Fibbing is bad

    Timvp let me off the hook, especially considering that my punishment was a sig that said "I love Jackie Butler" and Timvp was so wrong about him.
    The reason that was the bet was because you hated Butler for "replacing" Rasho. Not for his superstar talent.

  20. #45
    Five Rings... Kori Ellis's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    64,671
    Why is this in the Spurs forum?

    It's irrelevant to the Spurs - the trade was made before the pick. If the Spurs wanted Dragic, they would have pick him.

    I moved 3 Dragic threads to the NBA forum yesterday. You'd think this guy was Jordan.

  21. #46
    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    55,054
    What exactly does a bet betwen ploto and timvp has to do with this topic?

    You failed

    When she made a thread about a worthless euro white stiff coming over personal.

    Go back under your rock kiddo.

  22. #47
    Bruce Almighty Bruno's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    19,194
    I like the way Drgic plays, he plays with a lot of heart.

    However, calling it a bad news from Spurs is quite a reach. From what I've seen of him, Dragic isn't a great prospect or a player able to have an impact in his rookie year. His offensive game is very underdeveloped.

  23. #48
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Post Count
    3,744
    I like the way Drgic plays, he plays with a lot of heart.

    However, calling it a bad news from Spurs is quite a reach. From what I've seen of him, Dragic isn't a great prospect or a player able to have an impact in his rookie year. His offensive game is very underdeveloped.
    Yeah no kidding, I'm a little afraid he'll turn out a bust in the NBA.

  24. #49
    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    2,209

    worthless euro white

    Go back under your rock kiddo.
    Let me guess, republican?

    And yeah... you really show your supremacy with insults. Good for you.

  25. #50
    Free Throw Coach Aggie Hoopsfan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Post Count
    31,094
    Yeah, isn't that a real cause to worry.

    That's 2 players now that other NBA teams have negotiated with Tau to be released.

    The least the R.C. can do to redeem himself from the Scola is to at least bring in Splitter.

    It's downright embarrasing for us to be hoodwinked twice by two other NBA teams. The Suns trade up for us and grab Dragic, they didn't that once before and we gave away Barbosa.

    The Rockets are also toying around with our front office.
    Pop needs to be called out for this as well. Everyone here loves to treat the guy with kid gloves. He's just as involved in our personnel decisions as R.C.

    And whoever you want to blame, the fact is this is another black eye for what's been a pretty ty summer for the Spurs FO.

    I guess all that's left to do is re-sign Horry and they can make this summer's failure complete.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •