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    Fazekas is 5 years younger and 1 inch taller than Bonner and a heck of a lot cheaper. Sign Fazekas for the big deep threat and trade Bonner for Charlie Bell. Milwaukee gets to dump Bell's long contract and picks up a big deep threat. Bell fills the the scoring backup point.
    Fazekas plays on the inside and is not a really threat from the perimeter. Bonner is a better perimeter Big, as Tolliver has shown to be.

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    Stats from D league last year:

    Fazekas
    19.1 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.8 bpg, 22.75 Efficiency rating

    Mahinmi
    17.1 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 bpg, 21.82 EFF

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    Fazekas plays on the inside and is not a really threat from the perimeter. Bonner is a better perimeter Big, as Tolliver has shown to be.
    We would never take bells contract.

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    Stats from D league last year:

    Fazekas
    19.1 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.8 bpg, 22.75 Efficiency rating

    Mahinmi
    17.1 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 bpg, 21.82 EFF
    Cant judge the two together, Fazekas is a face up shooter and gets alot more uncontested looks, Ian is a post player.

    Ian is 10x the player Nick is.

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    I'm looking for Mahinmi to put up better numbers than Horry or Elson did last year. If he does that, the front line of the Spurs will be better than last year. I think he's a good young player with nice potential, but when I read people writing things like Ian will be the new DRob or Ian will be a 20/10 guy... it just sounds like wildly unrealistic expectations. I'd hate for him to be averaging 7 ppg and 5 rpg or 8 & 6 at midseason and have a bunch of people jump on spurstalk and say he sucks... but I guarantee you that will happen.

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    I'm looking for Mahinmi to put up better numbers than Horry or Elson did last year. If he does that, the front line of the Spurs will be better than last year. I think he's a good young player with nice potential, but when I read people writing things like Ian will be the new DRob or Ian will be a 20/10 guy... it just sounds like wildly unrealistic expectations. I'd hate for him to be averaging 7 ppg and 5 rpg or 8 & 6 at midseason and have a bunch of people jump on spurstalk and say he sucks... but I guarantee you that will happen.
    If Ian averages 7 ppg and 5 rpg, on a consistent basis, that would be a successful first full year.

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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bonnema01.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...fazekni01.html

    Player-----Career TReb%----Career PER
    Bonner-----11.4 -----------14.2
    Fazekas----19.2------------19.6

    Fazekas is theoretically still adapting to the league...Bonner is in the "prime" of his career. While Fazekas might not work out for the Spurs ( , he may yet bust), but try not to assume that I am a complete idiot...
    Stats from D league last year:

    Fazekas
    19.1 ppg, 9.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.8 bpg, 22.75 Efficiency rating

    Mahinmi
    17.1 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 bpg, 21.82 EFF
    Cant judge the two together, Fazekas is a face up shooter and gets alot more uncontested looks, Ian is a post player.

    Ian is 10x the player Nick is.
    Gentlemen, Fazekas has played at the NBA level, not the D-league. The stats I posted were for his NBA time. You might want to a) review those pages, and b) keep them in mind when you have this discussion. Finally, I would urge you not to think Fazekas OR Mahinmi; the discussion is better framed and Fazekas OR Tolliver... Mahinmi has a guaranteed contract.

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    ]Gentlemen, Fazekas has played at the NBA level, not the D-league.[/B]
    In truth, Fazekas spent time both at the NBA level and the D-League level. Specifically, he played for the Fort Worth entry of the D-league, while with the Mavs. I remembered hearing an interview with him locally and it seems he was laboring from boredom while during his stint there. He really, really felt he could've helped the Mavs right away. Unfortunately for him, he was never given that chance. Obviously, the Mavs, particuarly Avery, must've thought he wasn't ready.

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    In truth, Fazekas spent time both at the NBA level and the D-League level. Specifically, he played for the Fort Worth entry of the D-league, while with the Mavs. I remembered hearing an interview with him locally and it seems he was laboring from boredom while during his stint there. He really, really felt he could've helped the Mavs right away. Unfortunately for him, he was never given that chance. Obviously, the Mavs, particuarly Avery, must've thought he wasn't ready.
    Indeed he has played both the D-league and the NBA. If I am going to look at a player's utility in the NBA, I would focus on his NBA time. The vast majority of that time was after Dallas cut him to make room in the Kidd trade, and he was then signed by the Clips (9 minutes in 4 games with DAL, 260 minutes over 22 games with LAC). Avery may have made a mistake...While 260 minutes is not a huge sample, it is an acceptable reason for optimism.

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    Indeed he has played both the D-league and the NBA. If I am going to look at a player's utility in the NBA, I would focus on his NBA time.
    Makes sense.

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    Fazekas plays on the inside and is not a really threat from the perimeter. Bonner is a better perimeter Big, as Tolliver has shown to be.
    Fazekas shot 43.1% from the 3 point line his senior year in college. 28 for 65.
    He can hit the 3.

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    He signed a non-guaranteed contract with the Nuggs for training camp. I hope they bring him in as a big body for insurance.

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...man-on-campus/

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    A bit of Fazekas trivia, mainly for Ed Helicopter Jones:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Jones_(basketball)

    While playing college basketball for the University of Nevada, Reno (1975–79), Edgar Jones set the school's all-time points total record (1,877); a record which stood until broken by the Wolf Pack's Nick Fazekas on November 18, 2006

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    A bit of Fazekas trivia, mainly for Ed Helicopter Jones:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Jones_(basketball)

    While playing college basketball for the University of Nevada, Reno (1975–79), Edgar Jones set the school's all-time points total record (1,877); a record which stood until broken by the Wolf Pack's Nick Fazekas on November 18, 2006
    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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    Sorry dude, but we know who the true Nevada-Reno U balla was, don't we?

    Long live the Wild 'Copter!

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    he shawn bradley wannab

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