The Ginobili Effect (Hoopsworld)

[Pero]

Well you know, I didn't really forget.

[Pero]

But great to see that play again. It was great watching that game.

[duncan228]

Well you know, I didn't really forget.

But great to see that play again. It was great watching that game.

I know you didn't forget, no Spurs fan will ever forget. I'll take any excuse to watch it again!

[Pero]

I know you didn't forget, no Spurs fan will ever forget. I'll take any excuse to watch it again!

[Los Spurs]

Can't wait for the new season too start

[Chucho]

I love Manu as much as the next person, but alot of people around here are seriously over stating his importance. He is not the main reason for the Spur's success as many seem to think. He is part of the "Big 3" and a very vital part of what the Spurs do, nothing more, nothing less. I certainly wouldn't call him one of the leagues "few elite game changers" he doesn't do what Kobe, LeBron or Chris Paul do. He doesn't put the Spurs on his back and bring them back by himself, that is not the Spurs' style, nor would Popovich allow it. He's gotten ths Spurs through some tough games with clutch shots with an insane style, but the same can be said for Timmy and TP, who ya know, have Finals MVPs. It's not 2005 anymore, Tony has closed the gap and I think he is more vital to the Spurs than Manu. He gets more whistles when he goes to the rack, plays more minutes, isn't 1/10th as injure prone and wins a higher percentage of games when Manu is injured as compared to Manu playing when Tony is out. And when Tim is gone the Spurs lose the most often. So to say Manu is the most important piece of the Spurs puzzle is a flat out lie. Not to mention for everything clutch and sick and rewarding Manu has done, there are two instances of him taking a bad shot, making a bad pass, going to the rack in vain attempts to get whistles that are not going his way to begin with and other things that make Spurs fans pull their hair out, but that's just the other side of the sword known as his style.

I'm not trying to rag on Manu, but the people here thinking he should be untouchable in regards to trading him are holding on to him as if he is THE reason the Spurs have the banners they have, that trading him would be the end-all-be all of the Spurs. And that's untrue. The only person that could even reasonably argued for is Tim Duncan. And Manu ain't Tim, not by a longshot. Manu is becoming the Spur's Danny Manning.

[urunobili]

I love Manu as much as the next person, but alot of people around here are seriously over stating his importance. He is not the main reason for the Spur's success as many seem to think. He is part of the "Big 3" and a very vital part of what the Spurs do, nothing more, nothing less. I certainly wouldn't call him one of the leagues "few elite game changers" he doesn't do what Kobe, LeBron or Chris Paul do. He doesn't put the Spurs on his back and bring them back by himself, that is not the Spurs' style, nor would Popovich allow it. He's gotten ths Spurs through some tough games with clutch shots with an insane style, but the same can be said for Timmy and TP, who ya know, have Finals MVPs. It's not 2005 anymore, Tony has closed the gap and I think he is more vital to the Spurs than Manu. He gets more whistles when he goes to the rack, plays more minutes, isn't 1/10th as injure prone and wins a higher percentage of games when Manu is injured as compared to Manu playing when Tony is out. And when Tim is gone the Spurs lose the most often. So to say Manu is the most important piece of the Spurs puzzle is a flat out lie. Not to mention for everything clutch and sick and rewarding Manu has done, there are two instances of him taking a bad shot, making a bad pass, going to the rack in vain attempts to get whistles that are not going his way to begin with and other things that make Spurs fans pull their hair out, but that's just the other side of the sword known as his style.

I'm not trying to rag on Manu, but the people here thinking he should be untouchable in regards to trading him are holding on to him as if he is THE reason the Spurs have the banners they have, that trading him would be the end-all-be all of the Spurs. And that's untrue. The only person that could even reasonably argued for is Tim Duncan. And Manu ain't Tim, not by a longshot. Manu is becoming the Spur's Danny Manning.

you should change your nickname to TP>Manu

[Pero]

Timmy and TP, who ya know, have Finals MVPs.

It's not 2005 anymore, Tony has closed the gap and I think he is more vital to the Spurs than Manu.

Oh so that's why the Spurs won the championship this year.

Not to mention for everything clutch and sick and rewarding Manu has done, there are two instances of him taking a bad shot, making a bad pass, going to the rack in vain attempts to get whistles that are not going his way to begin with and other things that make Spurs fans pull their hair out, but that's just the other side of the sword known as his style.

Yeah, and Tony never heard of the word disappear.