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    Surgery +rehab is always a crap shoot when it comes to estimating recovery time. 6-8 weeks may be right but you always wonder with older guys, and Manu's no spring chicken. September is not when you want to be making these decisions.

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    Bad news.

    Very bad news.

    The question of whether it was appropriate to play in the Olimpics is now totally irrelevant.

    If the ligament is as bad as requiring a surgery on, the injury he had at the Olimpics would have most likely happened within the first games of the new season.

    I seriously wonder whether we will ever see the old Manu again.

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    He needed this surgery after the playoffs if his ankle is in fact in basically the same condition that it was at the end of the season. To me the issue is that:

    1) He could have gotten the surgery in July if he passed on the Olympics and would have been ready to go by November

    or

    2) He would not have gotten the surgery anyway and could have aggravated the ankle during the season resulting in surgery much later down the road and much more costly to the Spurs.

    Depending on how you look at it the Olympics were either a curse or a blessing.

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    Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for about 6 months now, but have never registered cause I am a girl and guys give me crap cause I like basketball.


    Anyways...

    I had surgery yesterday morning at the surgical center next to the Spurs training center. It's the same place that duncan and me had our knee surgeries around the same time back in 2001. We had the same surgeon. Dr. David Shmidt. Well he was there yesterday, (the dr, he's also the Spurs team Dr) and I over heard a bunch of Docs talking about Ginobili, it wasn't clear what they were saying, but my mother and I DEFINITELY heard Ginobili's name, and I swear this was before my anesthesia was administered. My mom also saw Duncan there at the center, she said he needed a hair cut. She saw him leaving and went out and yelled "we love you Duncan!" and he turned around smiled and waved, then got back on his cell phone. I wonder if Ginobili was there yesterday and Tim was visiting???

    I swear all of this is true. And no, my meds ARE NOT making me hallucinate.

    Just thought I share this bit of info with y'all. I'm bored at home recovering and I wanted to get an update on Ginobili so I got on Spurstalk and saw the surgery thread and I am now very dissapointed.


    P.S. I had torn ligaments and a torn meniscus in my right knee when I was 15 and Dr. Shmidt repaired it. I started rehab at week 3, and was back to normal at 6 weeks. I'm no basketball player, but I was a scrawny 15 year old girl and I healed quickly. Just pray that Ginobili gets it fixed fast, he should be great by January at the latest.

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    Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for about 6 months now, but have never registered cause I am a girl and guys give me crap cause I like basketball.


    Anyways...

    I had surgery yesterday morning at the surgical center next to the Spurs training center. It's the same place that duncan and me had our knee surgeries around the same time back in 2001. We had the same surgeon. Dr. David Shmidt. Well he was there yesterday, (the dr, he's also the Spurs team Dr) and I over heard a bunch of Docs talking about Ginobili, it wasn't clear what they were saying, but my mother and I DEFINITELY heard Ginobili's name, and I swear this was before my anesthesia was administered. My mom also saw Duncan there at the center, she said he needed a hair cut. She saw him leaving and went out and yelled "we love you Duncan!" and he turned around smiled and waved, then got back on his cell phone. I wonder if Ginobili was there yesterday and Tim was visiting???

    I swear all of this is true. And no, my meds ARE NOT making me hallucinate.

    Just thought I share this bit of info with y'all. I'm bored at home recovering and I wanted to get an update on Ginobili so I got on Spurstalk and saw the surgery thread and I am now very dissapointed.
    So, you're saying you sat on this information for 24 hours and didn't tell us?


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    My mom also saw Duncan there at the center, she said he needed a hair cut.

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    So, you're saying you sat on this information for 24 hours and didn't tell us?

    I just read the thread today, I was too busy with my own surgery recovery until now!!! Be glad I had the courage to talk to you scary boys!

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    i just want him back at 110% for the playoffs....thats all
    Didn't you hear? We aren't suppose to make the playoffs this year!

    I hope you have a speedy recovery.

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    The ligament was evidently bad before, and it got worse, of course.

    In essence, surgery is the last resort.

    Don't expect it to solve the problem, though, unless the ligament is given a lot of time to stabilize.

    Manu SHOULD not be back before the ASB.

    This is my advice to him.

    But of course he is Manu and will want to rush things up.....

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    I just read the thread today, I was too busy with my own surgery recovery until now!!! Be glad I had the courage to talk to you scary boys!
    Don't be afraid-- it's all bark and no painful bites at Spurstalk. Thanks for the good info.

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    I broached this idea last year during the offseason and I think it's worth revisiting it now: breaking down Matt Bonner into healthy replacement parts for rotation players.

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    Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for about 6 months now, but have never registered cause I am a girl and guys give me crap cause I like basketball.
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    There are plenty of lovely girls here that talk basketball on this forum. There is no reason for you to not post just because you're a girl! I hope you feel better too! Duncan228 would have just about fainted from seeing Tim Duncan.


    But as far as this surgery goes, as a lot of other people have said, better now then December, January, or god forbid, even February. I just hope he comes back and better then ever. It'll be a rough start for us without him, but we're a strong team!

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    Hey guys, I've been reading this forum for about 6 months now, but have never registered cause I am a girl and guys give me crap cause I like basketball.


    Anyways...

    I had surgery yesterday morning at the surgical center next to the Spurs training center. It's the same place that duncan and me had our knee surgeries around the same time back in 2001. We had the same surgeon. Dr. David Shmidt. Well he was there yesterday, (the dr, he's also the Spurs team Dr) and I over heard a bunch of Docs talking about Ginobili, it wasn't clear what they were saying, but my mother and I DEFINITELY heard Ginobili's name, and I swear this was before my anesthesia was administered. My mom also saw Duncan there at the center, she said he needed a hair cut. She saw him leaving and went out and yelled "we love you Duncan!" and he turned around smiled and waved, then got back on his cell phone. I wonder if Ginobili was there yesterday and Tim was visiting???

    I swear all of this is true. And no, my meds ARE NOT making me hallucinate.

    Just thought I share this bit of info with y'all. I'm bored at home recovering and I wanted to get an update on Ginobili so I got on Spurstalk and saw the surgery thread and I am now very dissapointed.


    P.S. I had torn ligaments and a torn meniscus in my right knee when I was 15 and Dr. Shmidt repaired it. I started rehab at week 3, and was back to normal at 6 weeks. I'm no basketball player, but I was a scrawny 15 year old girl and I healed quickly. Just pray that Ginobili gets it fixed fast, he should be great by January at the latest.
    I'm a lady too.....and a Spurs fan...that's why I'm here.

    And thanks for the information...how exciting to see Timmy!

    Get well and welcome!

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    Stick around, lolo21209. Hope you recover soon. Surgery is no fun thing.

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    here comes the usual string of surgery bookings for the run up to the season. First Monta, now Manu......im just waiting for a Kmart or Nene knee injury

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    ligament damange requiring surgery to the foot is not good for a basketball player. He will need 9months to recover fully IMO.

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    We had the same surgeon. Dr. David Shmidt. Well he was there yesterday, (the dr, he's also the Spurs team Dr) and I over heard a bunch of Docs talking about Ginobili, it wasn't clear what they were saying, but my mother and I DEFINITELY heard Ginobili's name, and I swear this was before my anesthesia was administered.
    Wow, talk about a major HIPAA violation by those doctors.

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    I broached this idea last year during the offseason and I think it's worth revisiting it now: breaking down Matt Bonner into healthy replacement parts for rotation players.

    I have a hacksaw in my trunk!

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    Olympic was not so bad at all because he would have problems with the ankle in the regular season and the ankle could be as bad as last year in the playoffs.
    Now IMO he could be better in May and he could be full of energy when all the players are tired.

    But now we need the best Finley in the regular season

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    Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

    I've actually waited on Timmy before when I worked at Macaroni Grill on I-10. He came in after the lunch rush on a tuesday around September 2006. He likes to sit in the back where its very dark and private. He was very nice and tipped well. Another time I was at Walmart on I-10 and DeZavala getting groceries after a long day at school and work. I saw a tall guy in line and I got behind him cause he looked hot, then I realized it was Timmy!!! I didn't bother him though because I was afraid to say o. This was back in March of 05. Other Spurs I have met are Malik Rose, Robert Horry an Beno Udrih(who hit on me when I worked at the OG but I heard he's a BIG player). I also met Tony Parker when I worked at Dillards last spring. He did an autograph signing because he is sponsored by Perry Ellis. I have also sung the Nat'l Anthem for some Spurs games, and even though the staff never gives me a chance to talk to them I get to stand on the court and sing with them right there!!! They're all sasquatches!!! Ok, enough bragging. I just wanted to tell you all that they are all very nice. I really wish I could meet Ginobili, who knows maybe I will this year...


    Oh, and thanks for the get well wishes. I had a deviated septum and a hairline fracture on my nasal bone from an old gymnastics injury. I finally had the courage to fix it yesterday. I feel pretty good right now, just bored here at home.

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    Wow, talk about a major HIPAA violation by those doctors.
    I guess it was pretty much violated today since I just heard about it on KSAT 12.

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    I guess it was pretty much violated today since I just heard about it on KSAT 12.
    Ginobili announced it and KSAT reported it.

    It's a whole different situation than overhearing doctors speak about the treatment of a patient of theirs.

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    Get well soon. We'll see you during Christmas and make the typical Spurs run in early '09.


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    Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!

    I've actually waited on Timmy before when I worked at Macaroni Grill on I-10. He came in after the lunch rush on a tuesday around September 2006. He likes to sit in the back where its very dark and private. He was very nice and tipped well. Another time I was at Walmart on I-10 and DeZavala getting groceries after a long day at school and work. I saw a tall guy in line and I got behind him cause he looked hot, then I realized it was Timmy!!! I didn't bother him though because I was afraid to say o. This was back in March of 05. Other Spurs I have met are Malik Rose, Robert Horry an Beno Udrih(who hit on me when I worked at the OG but I heard he's a BIG player). I also met Tony Parker when I worked at Dillards last spring. He did an autograph signing because he is sponsored by Perry Ellis. I have also sung the Nat'l Anthem for some Spurs games, and even though the staff never gives me a chance to talk to them I get to stand on the court and sing with them right there!!! They're all sasquatches!!! Ok, enough bragging. I just wanted to tell you all that they are all very nice. I really wish I could meet Ginobili, who knows maybe I will this year...
    Well, in one post you just made duncan228, angel_luv, and the various Parker groupies jealous. Pretty soon the scary boys will be the only ones you haven't pissed off.

    Oh, and thanks for the get well wishes. I had a deviated septum and a hairline fracture on my nasal bone from an old gymnastics injury. I finally had the courage to fix it yesterday. I feel pretty good right now, just bored here at home.
    But can you still sing?

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    Pretty sure for it to be a HIPPA violation it has to be a specific condition that is discussed regarding a specific person. Hearing doctors say Ginobili's name is not what I would consider a HIPPA violation.

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