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    then he's screwed with Amadinejad.
    nobody knew this guy before bush came along.

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    the great speaker who will change the hearts of dictators and terrorist with words. If he can't handle O'Reilly, who looked to me he was trying to give Obama a fair shake, then he's screwed with Amadinejad. Or maybe Obama sells us out to Iran which makes communication much easier.
    Who gives a about that asshole O'reilly? He's nothing but a smug prick, who looks out for himself and his ideals.

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    the great speaker who will change the hearts of dictators and terrorist with words. If he can't handle O'Reilly, who looked to me he was trying to give Obama a fair shake, then he's screwed with Amadinejad. Or maybe Obama sells us out to Iran which makes communication much easier.
    Because talking to Bill O'Reilly on his show in an effort to win over Republicans is exactly like talking to Ahmadinejad. Great analogy.

    Using that logic, McCain didn't do that well last night talking to the American public. How will he ever give a State of the Union address...?

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    "Please tell me all you guys have snapped out of the change and hope thing."

    But when McSame, showing great originality, adopts the "change" theme in his acceptance speech, it's so much more credible, right?

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    Wake up SpurSpur, this country has already been brought down. McCain=Bush. He reiterated his support for him in his speech. And as it
    came out today, were still losing jobs!!
    how did Bush bring down this country and how will Obama create jobs?

    I ask the question about Bush because I blame the ills of the economy more on the Tech Bubble of the 90s, followed by 911, and then corporate coruption after that. Now we have a subprime mortgage mess.

    How is Bush or any politician responsible for that?

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    Because talking to Bill O'Reilly on his show in an effort to win over Republicans is exactly like talking to Ahmadinejad. Great analogy.
    Bill is worse, I get it.

    Using that logic, McCain didn't do that well last night talking to the American public. How will he ever give a State of the Union address...?
    What does that have to do with national security? Also, the whack jobs did a pretty good job of disrupting last night.

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    What does that have to do with national security?
    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Thanks for proving my point.

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    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. That's my point.
    that's not your point. Obama thinks he's skilled enough to talk to Amadinejad without any preconditions. That's on the record and part of his national security plan. You're saying he can't even handle O'Reilly.

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    Who gives a about that asshole O'reilly? He's nothing but a smug prick, who looks out for himself and his ideals.
    I get it. Leaders of terrorist states will be much nicer so Obama can explain himself. I think maybe it's because Libs and those terrorist leaders think a lot alike and believe Obama should easily develop rapport.

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    Well I am:
    anti - killing babies
    anti - raising taxes
    anti - allowing illegals to become citizens with no problem
    anti - universal healthcare
    anti - reparations for slavery
    anti - cutting and running in Iraq

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    Well I am:
    anti - killing babies
    anti - raising taxes
    anti - allowing illegals to become citizens with no problem
    anti - universal healthcare
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    anti - cutting and running in Iraq
    you're never going to win the nahne nahne boo boo game with libs. They are experts.

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    Present.


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    This is a really good thread.

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    that's not your point. Obama thinks he's skilled enough to talk to Amadinejad without any preconditions. That's on the record and part of his national security plan. You're saying he can't even handle O'Reilly.
    Is he going on some Ahmadinejad talk show in Iran in an effort to win over Republican voters? I don't understand the argument you are making. You are trying to equate complex global security talks with appearances on a right wing-leaning talk show. I don't see the two as being comparable.

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    This is a really good thread.

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    Well I am:
    anti - killing babies
    anti - raising taxes
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    anti - universal healthcare
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    anti - cutting and running in Iraq
    you must have great health care

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    Well I am:
    anti - killing babies
    anti - raising taxes
    anti - allowing illegals to become citizens with no problem
    anti - universal healthcare
    anti - reparations for slavery
    anti - cutting and running in Iraq

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    you must have great health care
    Yes i worked hard my whole life to get a good job. My company pays for my healthcare. I have worked very hard in order for that to happen.

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    I speak English so i don't know what your last sentence means. Go drink some jamba juice and talk about how the man is bringing you down at Starbucks.

    I for one don't want the country to be brought down by higher taxes on people and businesses. It will sure be a great economy when people get laid off cause their business has to cut back and then they pay higher taxes.

    did you see obama on o'reilly? He was so unsure of every word it was pathetic.

    What has obama accomplished? Anything?
    Companies will not cut back on workers and lay off if they have the work no matter what taxes are.

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    I get it. Leaders of terrorist states will be much nicer so Obama can explain himself. I think maybe it's because Libs and those terrorist leaders think a lot alike and believe Obama should easily develop rapport.
    Your argument is absolutely ridiculous. It would be like me arguing - Well, McCain's strength is in reaching across the aisle to work with others that don't agree with him and find common ground. However, he can't seem to find enough common ground with liberal voters to sway them. How the is he going handle people like Ahmadinejad...?

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    Companies will not cut back on workers and lay off if they have the work no matter what taxes are.
    If companies have to pay higher taxes, it means there overhead will be higher. Therefore, they will have to cut overhead. Whats the easiest way to cut overhead? Layoff people. Genius idea Barack

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    If companies have to pay higher taxes, it means there overhead will be higher. Therefore, they will have to cut overhead. Whats the easiest way to cut overhead? Layoff people. Genius idea Barack

    No if they have the work they will not cut the people because they lose money if they don't have enough people to do the work.

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    Barack the vote
    IMO- That slogan was cute in the primaries, but sounds lame now due to overuse.

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    IMO- That slogan was cute in the primaries, but sounds lame now due to overuse.
    Its a lame slogan. Angel are you excited about a female vice president?

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    All the promises from both parties to cut my taxes and your taxes doesn't make sense to me. We're already running huge deficits (while fighting two wars). The last time I checked, paying off a debt costs more than paying off the bill right away. To my mind then, these tax cuts are really tax increases in the long run. As for stimulating the economy, if the huge deficits we currently have (and have had for most of BushCo) aren't stimulating the economy that much, how does a bigger deficit change that?

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