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    "We'll do it this time" Bartleby's Avatar
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    If that's the case, then she'll be exposed.


    Until then, do we really need to be looking at her travel expenses every day?
    She brought it on herself when she started making fiscal accountability and government waste one of her key talking points.

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    These questions are pointless.

    As if Obama is anything better.

    Srsly.

    Most governors don't have foreign policy experience and we have done just fine. Before you rip back about dumbass Bush, think a little.

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    All I know is that if Obama or Hillary chose Palin as a VP, they would have been laughed off the campaign.

    Whatever.......this is about Palin as a President if McCain croaks........can she do it???

    If you have no faith in Palin, then I don't understand why you'd have faith in Obama. What scares me about Obama is not so much his inexperience, it his philosophy.

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    If there were no Obama, then we would not have had McCain go for a young beauty queen to try and save his old ass.
    if obama had done what was best, shown leadership, and good judgement than he shouldn't have tossed away 18 million votes 3 weeks ago, then you wouldn't have had to be worried about palin-who's the vp by the way.


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    I wonder if this MSNBC reporter regretted asking Newt about Palin's qualifications?


    pwned!!!!


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    if obama had done what was best, shown leadership, and good judgement than he shouldn't have tossed away 18 million votes 3 weeks ago, then you wouldn't have had to be worried about palin-who's the vp by the way.
    Can't really fault him for that.

    At the end of the day, dude would rather make it to 50 than become president I guess haha

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    And why is Obama that?

    Why are Democrats so easily duped into picking such a ing flawed candidate every 4 years that beating the scrub is child's play?
    They are both flawed. Extremely flawed. McCain sucks just as much as Obama does. This isn't much different than the last election.

    Republicans are better at winning elections. It's that simple.

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    I dayum sure would rather have Biden as president than Palin if Obama or McCain goes down.....that is for damn sure. I could lead just as well as Palin.....I have just as good of qualifications.

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    They are both flawed. Extremely flawed. McCain sucks just as much as Obama does. This isn't much different than the last election.

    Republicans are better at winning elections. It's that simple.
    No. It's easier than that, and, for the record, I believe EACH of these candidates is superior to the previous offering from their respective parties.

    Republicans, in a year when the country is sick and tired of extremism, puts forth the single most moderate voice in their party. The Democrats? Two of the most liberal in the Senate.

    It's not the people, it's the politics. Americans, as much as they are upset with Bush and the Republcans ARE NOT LIBERAL!!! McCain talks about NOT wanting a socialized medicine plan - and does so confidently. Most Americans DO NOT WANT the government seizing control of anything else (damn near our entire mortgage industry notwithstanding).

    Democrats COULD have nominated Hillary; and I think she would win; they could have put her as the running mate; which would have won. They could have nominated a more moderate candidate; but they went WAY left. Where's Romney and Huckabee? Fishing!!!!!

    We are a conservative country. Problem is, the people who the Dems want to vote for them; they despise!!! All of these "working class" people that they NEED for votes? Those people go to church, and go to work. They DON"T want a hand-out, or even a hand up (don't have a free hand 'cause they have both full with Guns and Bibles). They certainly don't give a about carbon credits!

    These voters want something different from what they see as a Republican party dominated by elite business and big wigs; but Dems have nominated a person who screams "elite" - haven't they? Clinton? NOT ELITE!!!! He spoke red-neck; and legislated VERY moderately!!! Obama would not have passed Welfare reform or NAFTA. Palin may be many things; but arguing she is in the pocket of big business is gonna be a stretch. Criticizing her religion? Gonna backfire. The atheists and liberal elites have been in the tank for Obama from day 1. In fact, that's the whole problem.

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    I dayum sure would rather have Biden as president than Palin if Obama or McCain goes down.....that is for damn sure. I could lead just as well as Palin.....I have just as good of qualifications.
    O.K., there's only 49 other states:

    Rendell, is that you?

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    I dayum sure would rather have Biden as president than Palin if Obama or McCain goes down.....that is for damn sure. I could lead just as well as Palin.....I have just as good of qualifications.
    Excellent argument. I have changed my mind.

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    Excellent argument. I have changed my mind.

    I never even heard of Palin till she was elected. At least I knew who Obama, McCain and Biden were.

    The republicans pulled Palin out of their ass to try and save their ass with a soccor mom, beauty queen. There are many, many more females in Washington with more experience......that are PISSED that they were passed over. Women with many more qualifications. Ive heard alot of women on the streets say this.
    Last edited by lebomb; 09-09-2008 at 03:24 PM.

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    I never even heard of Palin till she was elected. At least I knew who Obama, McCain and Biden were.

    The republicans pulled Palin out of their ass to try and save there as with a soccor mom, beauty queen. There are many, many more females in Washington with more experience......that are PISSED that they were passed over. Women with many more qualifications. Ive heard alot of women on the streets say this.
    You heard of Obama in 2004 at the DNC, just like the rest of us. I remember distinctly watching Andrea Mitc pea herself, and wondering what was up.
    I'm 40, and I'm pretty sure Biden and McCain have been around my entire sentient life.

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    You heard of Obama in 2004 at the DNC, just like the rest of us. I remember distinctly watching Andrea Mitc pea herself, and wondering what was up.
    I'm 40, and I'm pretty sure Biden and McCain have been around my entire sentient life.

    Yes this is true.............also the first time I ever heard of Palin was two weeks ago and Im over 40.

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    Yes this is true.............also the first time I ever heard of Palin was two weeks ago and Im over 40.
    That's just 'cause she was running for state, and not national, office. If Clinton hadn't spoken in '98 no one would have known him before '92. Carter was an unknown, etc....

    Also, Obama's been running for President for about as long as any person ever HAS run for president. This has given him much name recognition, but I'm not sure as much experience as Palin has had ACTUALLY running a state.

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    The problem is the Republicans have succeeded in dumbing down the political debate to the point where people are legitimately excited about a hockey mom becoming VP.

    As if 8 years of Bush wasn't enough, they want to elect the female version back into office. There really isn't any explanation I can think of for why Republicans vote the way they do other than our nation is full of idiots.

    Whatever happened to electing the best man for the job? Why the are we electing the guy we'd most like to have a beer with? Republicans are running this country into the ground.

    that's the thing about this country and Bill Maher said it best. People in this country dont want someone who is smarter than them, but someone who is just like them. might as well get all the ing hockey moms and dads together to form a cabinet.

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    that's the thing about this country and Bill Maher said it best. People in this country dont want someone who is smarter than them, but someone who is just like them. might as well get all the ing hockey moms and dads together to form a cabinet.

    Trust me.........one day you will see Charles Barkley and Ben Stiller in the white house. Oh, and your neighbor may be in the senate.

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    Damn.

    It's not like you lefties are playing into the stereotype or anything....

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    Damn.

    It's not like you lefties are playing into the stereotype or anything....
    No, some republicans said it best last week: Why is Palin a good choice?

    1. She's a good looking woman

    2. She can hunt and fish, so she's not afraid to get her hands dirty..

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    The problem is the Republicans have succeeded in dumbing down the political debate to the point where people are legitimately excited about a hockey mom becoming VP.

    I think P.Diddy and Lindsay Lohan are really raising the intellectual level of political debate in this country.

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    If, If something happens to McCain?? I dont think everyone is thinking straight.......McCain can lead the US, but Im not sure Palin can. She has no foreign policy experience whatsoever. She seems to be a nice, smart mother of 5, but it scares me that she may have to run this country if McCain isnt around.

    What are yalls thoughts????
    And it doesn't scare you more that Obama knows less? My God man... He wants to surrender in Iraq while we are winning. He want to 'talk' when that's been done to exhaustion without resolve. At least Palin is a smart lady. She will learn what she needs to, use her above average common sense, and appoint advisors who do know.

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    Wait wait wait.......we're winning in Iraq? pass me some of that good stuff WildCobra.

    I suggest you do a little "research" that doesn't involve browsing the RNC website. We're so far from "winning" in Iraq, we don't even know what we're trying to accomplish over there anymore.

    It's idiots like you that are ruining this country. Dumbing down complex foreign affairs. Please kill yourself.

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