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For crying out loud...I'm so tired of people calling the candidates by silly nicknames.
You mean like McSame and Romney?
For crying out loud...I'm so tired of people calling the candidates by silly nicknames.
IF you want to see how full of crap Dan is on this...do a forum seach on his name and Hitlary.
Never mind...I'll do it for you:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=917198
52 references of Nbadan calling Hillary Hitlary.
He trashed her...and now he's pretending like it didn't happen.
The exact same thing that the Obama campaign and the media did to Hillary.
And they call the Republicans liars.
It just gets really old. I feel like I'm on a playground with some of these posters.
If you think this forum is bad you should see some of the Obama rallies.
Most of those Hillary supporters that are refusing to support Obama are doing so because they got called and at Obama rallies.
If you doubt this, just do a forum seach on Palin and posters like buddy holly, and see what they called her.
I don't doubt it at all. Pitiful.
Obamassiah was cool until the mainstream caught on.
Yeah he was your VP in 2000, I bet if Gore had won back then you'd be orgasmic about him right now.Yeah, Lieberman is objective...
the only thing Lieberman is good for is supporting the war effort, other than that he's a crazy liberal.
Did Hitlary win? Well, there you go...IF you want to see how full of crap Dan is on this...do a forum seach on his name and Hitlary.
Never mind...I'll do it for you:
Whott supported the war before he was aganist it, now he's for the war again...but short term cred is just that, short-term...that's why Whott disappears when the starts to hit the fan for the GOP..
Lie...I never posted on this political forum before we were in Iraq.
I protested before we went int...once we went it was too late to turn back, even if meant voting for W because the Dems refused to provide anything other than an extremist alternative.
No I'm not...I'm for the same thing I always was for, pulling out in conjunction with the Iraqi government.
now he's for the war again
Nah...I just get tired of refuting the lies, plus there is no changing your mind. You are going to consume leftist propaganda, and there is nothing I will ever be able to do to stop it....but short term cred is just that, short-term...that's why Whott disappears when the starts to hit the fan for the GOP..
It is extremist though, and the rest of America isn't going to all of a sudden embrace it.
It's not that I'm Pro-War...it's that I'm anti-convenient pullout.
And the war is winnable...and the logic behind it isn't near as stupid as you guys make it out to be if your goal is to remove the dictatorial regimes in the mid-east.
Here's another one:
See what I mean?
ing bigot...absolute trash. Surprised he didn't say anything about dinosaurs like all the other idiots are doing.
That link has bogus, dummy-link all over it.
Probably created by Republican internet trolls.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4897
Yeah, Hillary sure is working hard to get Obama elected.
Actually, the Dems should probably show some restraint on Sarah Palin. It's okay for undecided voters to like her. Just because you like the Veep nominee doesn't mean you're going to vote for a ticket. Excessive personal bashing will make the Dems look like bullies and backfire. Hillary only needs to point out that she and Palin differ on the issues. If somebody voted for Hillary because they want a woman to be President, Sarah Palin is going to be a tempting consolation prize. If somebody voted for Hillary because they want a liberal woman to be President, I don't see what appeal Palin holds. I'm just glad that Hillary is out stumping for Obama in Ohio. I was afraid the Clintons were going to sit on their hands and just pay lip service to Obama being elected.
The correct play for the Dems is to ignore Palin and let the novelty of Palin mania die down. It is primarily being driven by the GOP base and the news media. They need to save most of their rhetorical fire for John McCain, who doesn't excite anybody, Dems, Independents and Repubs, at the top of the ticket. Looks like the Dems are starting to get it.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...t6UJiA8xD7JcHw
WASHINGTON (AFP) — Barack Obama seems finally to have hit on a strategy to fight the Sarah Palin phenomenon: sidestep the feisty Republican vice presidential pick and turn full fire on an "out of touch" John McCain.
Palin's explosive debut left Obama's Democratic White House campaign flailing for an initial response as she trumped him as the freshest and most magnetic character in the history-making 2008 race.
Appearing on the "Late Show with David Letterman" Wednesday, the first African-American with a serious shot at the White House mused ruefully on how he had been upstaged.
"We didn't know much about her. Honestly, she's a skilled politician. There's no doubt that she has been a phenomenon," Obama said.
The Alaska governor made instant converts of the Republican conservative base, kick-started McCain's misfiring campaign and wiped out Obama's small but consistent leads in national opinion polls.
But the Democrat is now firing back -- branding 72-year-old McCain as an economic illiterate stuck in the pre-Internet era, while vowing to parry a negative post-convention Republican barrage.
"I think Palin's candidacy was such a surprise and she was such an unknown that it threw off the Obama campaign and drew them away from their message," said Kathleen Kendall of the University of Maryland.
Early Obama camp responses to Palin's broadsides seemed churlish, open to Republican complaints of sexism and left a candidate determined to elevate political discourse stuck in the trenches of snarling soundbite politics.
As visions of defeat on November 4 and Democratic panic engulfed liberal blogs, the Obama camp had a rethink.
The new battleplan turns the heat on McCain, and not his charismatic sidekick.
A day after Obama huddled with Bill Clinton, one of the former president's top aides, political bruiser Rahm Emanuel, led a fresh bid to frame the choice before voters -- with a distinctly Clintonian tone.
"What John McCain is offering you is two for one," the Illinois congressman said.
"George (W.) Bush's economic policies and Cheney's foreign policy -- you're going to get four more years of just what you got for the last eight years."
Later Friday, Emanuel passed up a chance on MSNBC to critique Palin's shaky performance in her first major television interview.
A blistering memo by Obama campaign manager David Plouffe only mentioned the Alaska governor in passing. For the first time in days the Illinois Senator skipped references to Palin at a rally in New Hampshire Friday.
Their reasoning was clear: deprive Palin of the spotlight and make a new attempt to twin McCain with unpopular Republican President Bush.
Ironically, Bush's political guru Karl Rove warned in a Wall Street Journal article on Thursday that attacking Palin was bad politics for Obama.
"These assaults highlight his own tissue-thin resume, waste precious time better spent reassuring voters he is up for the job and diminish him -- not her," Rove wrote.
Democrats view Rove with a mixture of dread and awe, and might ask, if Palin has been so influential, shouldn't the party try to take her down?
"It is not a good idea to dwell on her," said Bruce Buchanan, a political analyst at the University of Texas at Austin.
"Sooner or later it is going to be about McCain again."
But will an assault on McCain also dim Palin's influence on the race?
Polls in battleground states reveal that Palin is drawing increasing support among the crucial voter group of white, working class women.
In Quinnipiac University surveys, McCain's support among white women voters grew four percentage points in Ohio and five points in Pennsylvania since August 26.
Cue Hillary Clinton: the Democratic former first lady and Obama's vanquished primary foe was set to campaign for Obama in northeastern Ohio on Sunday, no doubt aiming to fire up her white, working-class base for Obama.
Clinton has so far not publicly attacked Palin, amid reports she does not want to detract from the Obama campaign with a headline-grabbing public spat with the Alaska governor.
But the shape of the electorate also suggests that Clinton alone may not be a decisive factor in stemming the flow of women away from Obama towards McCain.
"Hillary got about 10 million votes in the Democratic primary from women," said Peter Brown of the Quinnipiac University polling ins ute.
"You will probably see about 62 million women vote in November -- it's the other 52 million that Palin is aimed at -- if they get some of the Hillary voters that is gravy."
Bill Clinton is working hard to get Obama elected...
"Suppose for example you're a voter. And you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues, but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver. For whom would you vote? This has nothing to do with what's going on now."
I love the "This has nothing to do with what's going on now." part.
Hillary's play is not to piss off the Obama crowd while hoping McCain wins, so that in 2012 she can make another run.
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