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    With Manu being out for the most part of this year, Its only going to be Duncan and Parker running the show till the end of 2008
    Manu should miss one month or even less, that is to say 15 games or less. Duncan won't have to carry the team for too long.

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    Has Duncan's productivity gone up since he's been having his minutes "managed"? Is there a simple way to figure that out?

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    And personally, I'd almost rather the Spurs start out poorly and get it ratcheted up as the season goes. Starting out strong hasn't really translated to anything for them IIRC. Chasing playoff position towards the end of the year might actually be a good thing.

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    Has Duncan's productivity gone up since he's been having his minutes "managed"? Is there a simple way to figure that out?
    hasn't really gone up or down. A lot of the "managing" since 2004 has been from nagging injuries. Duncan seems to have less of them the past two seasons, which is my reason to believe he will better.

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    as much as i would like duncan to win another MVP, the process is mostly biased. lebron james obviously gets a turn next year to win MVP, he just needs to put up similar numbers and get cleveland 50-55 wins. with mo williams now on the cavs, it doesn't seem too unlikely. duncan will have to put up near '01-'02 numbers where he averaged 25, 12, and 2.5 blks, in order to get in the top 3. i would like duncan to get DPOY though. i don't think he's ever got one and it's a shame because he has been on the first all-defensive team for 8 seasons. he has probably been the best low post defender in the league for some time now.

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    as much as i would like duncan to win another MVP, the process is mostly biased. lebron james obviously gets a turn next year to win MVP, he just needs to put up similar numbers and get cleveland 50-55 wins. with mo williams now on the cavs, it doesn't seem too unlikely. duncan will have to put up near '01-'02 numbers where he averaged 25, 12, and 2.5 blks, in order to get in the top 3. i would like duncan to get DPOY though. i don't think he's ever got one and it's a shame because he has been on the first all-defensive team for 8 seasons. he has probably been the best low post defender in the league for some time now.
    All it takes for Duncan to win the MVP is:

    1) Spurs pull long winning or hot streak to start season with Ginobili out.

    2) 20+ points per game & team's leading scorer w/ 50%+ shooting

    3) usual rebound and block numbers

    4) Spurs end up with best or near best record in West

    He could also pull off DPOY if the Spurs are in the top three on defensive points allowed & defensive FG%, and Duncan keeps blocks over 2 per game. if Duncan can pull off another season with nearly as many blocks as fouls he's got it in the bag.

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    Duncan finished the playoffs last year with a triple-double, 10 straight 13+ rebound games, and 9 straight 14+ rebound games (all the games after he recovered from the flu).

    Go try to find me the last time someone had 10 straight 13+ rebound games in the playoffs. Not even the young jumpers can do that.
    You rattle off a different subject all you want. My point remains. You need to learn how to read before you go replying to folks.

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    You rattle off a different subject all you want. My point remains. You need to learn how to read before you go replying to folks.
    Duncan is not slowing down. He is the only legitimate big man on the team and is carrying a bigger load on his shoulders than before.

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    Duncan is not slowing down. He is the only legitimate big man on the team and is carrying a bigger load on his shoulders than before.
    I agree with the last part. But it is evident by just watching him his quickness and speed is not what it once was. However it does not affect his playoff performance.

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    With Manu being out for the most part of this year, Its only going to be Duncan and Parker running the show till the end of 2008, with Parker playing for france( thats going to take a great toll on him being fresh, but he will be ready) and Duncan being fresh sitting at home and working out, could have a MVP season, i still think he has one MVP season left in him, and he would have to play more minutes this season if the spurs want to be a contender or even make the playoffs in this tough Westren Confrence.. What do you Guys think, does THE BIGFUNDAMENTAL STILL HAVE IT IN HIM????
    No. Duncan will give us double doubles. But when teams double Tim, the Spurs will get toasted like last season. Once Timmy lost his off the glass shot, Imo he's basically saying, I dont have it anymore.

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    no. but not because he can't but because he won't. pop won't allow it unless its the playoffs.

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    No. Duncan will give us double doubles. But when teams double Tim, the Spurs will get toasted like last season. Once Timmy lost his off the glass shot, Imo he's basically saying, I dont have it anymore.

    IMO This post of yours basically says that you suck.

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    I agree with the last part. But it is evident by just watching him his quickness and speed is not what it once was. However it does not affect his playoff performance.
    Is there any drills or training that Tim can do in the off season to work on getting some speed and agility back? I can't really tell if Tim is just a little slower or a lot slower? Sometimes he seems like he's a lot slower than he used to be.

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    Duncan and Parker will run the team...And udoka and hill may show us then what they got.... Good time for them to show us what they got...

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    No. Duncan will give us double doubles. But when teams double Tim, the Spurs will get toasted like last season. Once Timmy lost his off the glass shot, Imo he's basically saying, I dont have it anymore.
    I don't get why you're a Spurs fan. I've never read anything positive from you. If this team disappoints you so much why are you here? It's like Spurs Dynasty 21 reincarnated.

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    Is there any drills or training that Tim can do in the off season to work on getting some speed and agility back? I can't really tell if Tim is just a little slower or a lot slower? Sometimes he seems like he's a lot slower than he used to be.
    Duncan got worn down in the playoffs because he is the only rebounder on the team, and they rigged the schedule with game after game every other day, plus he was sick an they had a seven game series. Even so, he was brilliant. Against the Lakers he average 22.5 points and 17.5 rebounds.

    Duncan has not had much time to work on new moves. After '04, '05, and '06, he was coming back from injuries and more concerned with conditioning than new moves. Last year, he was resting from an NBA le.

    This offseason is his first to work on new moves in a long time.

    Look for his bank shot to be the best its ever been.

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    I don't get why you're a Spurs fan. I've never read anything positive from you. If this team disappoints you so much why are you here? It's like Spurs Dynasty 21 reincarnated.
    -Hiss- Speak not the name! Speak not the naaaaame!

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    -Hiss- Speak not the name! Speak not the naaaaame!
    Sorry.

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    The playoff schedule was released 1 month in advance, it could have been ANY team, it just happened to be the Spurs. The Playoffs have to be scheduled with the TV stations far in advance so it has nothing to do with the actual team playing. It could have been Rockets/Spurs for all they knew at the time of scheduling.
    Link?

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    I don't get why you're a Spurs fan. I've never read anything positive from you. If this team disappoints you so much why are you here? It's like Spurs Dynasty 21 reincarnated.
    He's not, he's a troll posing as a Spurs fan.
    I smell Louis, Princess Pimp, etc .....

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    The playoff schedule was released 1 month in advance, it could have been ANY team, it just happened to be the Spurs. The Playoffs have to be scheduled with the TV stations far in advance so it has nothing to do with the actual team playing. It could have been Rockets/Spurs for all they knew at the time of scheduling.
    I have not been looking at the playoff schedules, but I am quite sure they are released right after both the previous series were wrapped up. Games could go anywhere from 4 to 7 games, there are just too many combinations for the league to release the playoff schedules a month in advance.

    However, if you have more information, I would be more than happy to read it.

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    Is there any drills or training that Tim can do in the off season to work on getting some speed and agility back? I can't really tell if Tim is just a little slower or a lot slower? Sometimes he seems like he's a lot slower than he used to be.
    Last I heard the Fountain of Youth is yet to be found. When it is I'm sure Duncan will inject some in his legs and feet.

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    he's my favorite player, but Tim is clearly declining..he's still a top 5 player in the NBA, but the guy is in his 30's now..he's slowly going to decline every year, because that's just how age works..it's a natural decline..

    he's still a playoff beast, but we obviously don't have early 2000's Duncan anymore..we don't have the same guy that carried an average supporting cast to a le in 2003..we can't expect that..Duncan can't carry us anymore, as we saw in the Lakers series, when he was the only one doing anything in single coverage..once the Lakers started doubling him, we were screwed..

    this team is gonna be more about the improvement of Tony Parker..we NEED him to take the next step, and that's the way we're gonna get back to winning les..

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    Last I heard the Fountain of Youth is yet to be found. When it is I'm sure Duncan will inject some in his legs and feet.
    I honestly don't think Tim has slowed down any at all. He has better teammates now than he did even with David Robinson. Spurs need to be able to attack from all angles and he makes sure that the team does that. Besides, players who rely on athleticism tend to fade alot faster than players who rely on basic skills. I honestly think that Timmy could easily get a few more MVP awards if he is ever needed to. He plays within the system, and the system doesn't require him being a superhero every night.

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    he's my favorite player, but Tim is clearly declining..he's still a top 5 player in the NBA, but the guy is in his 30's now..he's slowly going to decline every year, because that's just how age works..it's a natural decline..

    he's still a playoff beast, but we obviously don't have early 2000's Duncan anymore..we don't have the same guy that carried an average supporting cast to a le in 2003..we can't expect that..Duncan can't carry us anymore, as we saw in the Lakers series, when he was the only one doing anything in single coverage..once the Lakers started doubling him, we were screwed..

    this team is gonna be more about the improvement of Tony Parker..we NEED him to take the next step, and that's the way we're gonna get back to winning les..
    Duncan's career playoff averages are:

    23.4 points
    12.7 rebounds
    3.5 assists

    TOP (Total Offensive Production) = 39.6

    against the Lakers he averaged:

    22.4 points
    17.4 rebounds
    4.8 assists

    TOP = 44.6

    In 2003 playoffs he averaged:

    24.7 points
    15.4 rebounds
    5.3 assists

    TOP = 45.4

    He's not declining.

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