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    There is so much more in basketball than just jumping-dunking and shooting.
    Some of these guys in the list have problems with dribbling with the left hand.
    Not to mention passing the ball.
    I am generous not to mention defense, an horrendous word for a lot of folks in this list.
    Simple things like that.
    Ray Allen? Are you serious? LOL

    You're criticizing defense and you put Ray Allen onto this list.

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    Wow. Who writes this stuff? Last I checked, Carter averaged 21 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists per game last season. His numbers were far superior to McGrady's. The #3 SG on this list, that is actually put out by a professional broadcasting company nonetheless. Unbelievable. Carter goes no lower than #4 by anyone with any kind of sense. I'd probably rather have Manu, only because Carter is disinterested in defense, but I'd take him over McGrady any day of the week. As well as any player on that list other than Manu, Kobe and possibly Wade because of age factor.
    T-Mac is better than Ginobili based on most stats the past 3 years. Tracy also isn't as injury prone as people say...the past four seasons he's played 78, 47, 71, and 66 gms per season. Ginobili's never even averaged 20pts per game although he shoots a better percentage and does have the toughness and heart T-Mac lacks. Just look at the numbers...

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    Bryant
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    There is so much more in basketball than just jumping-dunking and shooting.
    Some of these guys in the list have problems with dribbling with the left hand.
    Not to mention passing the ball.
    I am generous not to mention defense, an horrendous word for a lot of folks in this list.
    Simple things like that.

    lol

    how are you gonna say there is more to basketball than shooting, but then put Ray Allen on your little list there?

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    Kobe Bryant is a year younger than Manu and has been in the NBA a year longer than Tim Duncan. Not sure why Manu's "window" and durability are always so strongly questioned for any reason other than wishful thinking by fans of his opponents.
    Kind of like how Duncan is aging and KG is a ing fountain of youth, even though Garnett is the same age as Duncan and has played several more seasons in the NBA than Duncan.

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    Kind of like how Duncan is aging and KG is a ing fountain of youth, even though Garnett is the same age as Duncan and has played several more seasons in the NBA than Duncan.
    Precisely. Duncan has been in "decline" for years, but they never mention Garnett's age.

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    T-Mac is better than Ginobili based on most stats the past 3 years. Tracy also isn't as injury prone as people say...the past four seasons he's played 78, 47, 71, and 66 gms per season. Ginobili's never even averaged 20pts per game although he shoots a better percentage and does have the toughness and heart T-Mac lacks. Just look at the numbers...

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    When McGrady gets out of the first round, then we can talk about it. If he doesn't this year, with that stacked team, we can officially put him as the #1 overrated player in the league, somehow eclipsing Allen Iverson.

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    T-Mac is better than Ginobili based on most stats the past 3 years. Tracy also isn't as injury prone as people say...the past four seasons he's played 78, 47, 71, and 66 gms per season. Ginobili's never even averaged 20pts per game although he shoots a better percentage and does have the toughness and heart T-Mac lacks. Just look at the numbers...
    Actually, don't bother with the numbers and focus on the text in bold.

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    True, taking more shots does equal more points, good for you!

    Plus you can't overlook Tim's years playing in college, plus the fact KG has had the whole summer to rest almost every ing season, compared to Timmy making it to the 2nd round every year(not sure if he has ever been bounced in the 1st round, but I highly doubt it). When you have the best big man of this era on your team, you don't need to score 23 pts a game. Plus, Manu has been on star teams his entire career, he's never had to been the man, and I bet Tracy has played more withought Yao than with, unless they've been injured more over the same period of time than not.

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    T-Mac is better than Ginobili based on most stats the past 3 years. Tracy also isn't as injury prone as people say...the past four seasons he's played 78, 47, 71, and 66 gms per season. Ginobili's never even averaged 20pts per game although he shoots a better percentage and does have the toughness and heart T-Mac lacks. Just look at the numbers...

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    minutes played, number of touches, PER, toughness and heart. Manu wins.

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    T-Mac is better than Ginobili based on most stats the past 3 years. Tracy also isn't as injury prone as people say...the past four seasons he's played 78, 47, 71, and 66 gms per season. Ginobili's never even averaged 20pts per game although he shoots a better percentage and does have the toughness and heart T-Mac lacks. Just look at the numbers...

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...2ecaqG9wmkvLYF
    To be an elite player, you have to take your team to the promised land. T-mac is very talented. But he has never been out of the first round. Take a look at the 05 season. Manu made more big plays in those playoffs than T-mac has in his entire career. He was 1 vote away from sharing the Finals MVP trophy, which is pretty much the highest individual honor you can earn. T-Mac...has a scoring le.

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    Redd before AI? I doubt it

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    To be an elite player, you have to take your team to the promised land. T-mac is very talented. But he has never been out of the first round. Take a look at the 05 season. Manu made more big plays in those playoffs than T-mac has in his entire career. He was 1 vote away from sharing the Finals MVP trophy, which is pretty much the highest individual honor you can earn. T-Mac...has a scoring le.
    It's possible to share it?

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    So for you, TMac is just a shooter and/or an athlete?

    I agree with what you say, but your list is so short... it is ridiculous.

    OK TMac is also an athlete, but what about Dunleavy? He is a below average athlete but a good shooter, passer, has a good IQ, good footwork, is a solid passer and ball handler, his a smart defender...

    OK.

    Dunleavy in, conditional though: I have to see him play a serious zone defense.

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    Ray Allen? Are you serious? LOL

    You're criticizing defense and you put Ray Allen onto this list.
    Ray Allen has played some excellent defense that I watched, including this year.

    I think he has proven that he belongs to the basketball players list and NOT to the circus list, as most of the others.

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    T-Mac is better than Ginobili based on most stats the past 3 years. Tracy also isn't as injury prone as people say...the past four seasons he's played 78, 47, 71, and 66 gms per season. Ginobili's never even averaged 20pts per game although he shoots a better percentage and does have the toughness and heart T-Mac lacks. Just look at the numbers...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...2ecaqG9wmkvLYF
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...2ecaqG9wmkvLYF
    McGrady is better than Ginobili in one single area.

    Income.

    And that doesn't include how the surplus income gets invested, probably.

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    Redd before AI? I doubt it
    You are right.

    In the circus list Iverson comes before Redd.

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    True, taking more shots does equal more points, good for you!

    Plus you can't overlook Tim's years playing in college, plus the fact KG has had the whole summer to rest almost every ing season, compared to Timmy making it to the 2nd round every year(not sure if he has ever been bounced in the 1st round, but I highly doubt it). When you have the best big man of this era on your team, you don't need to score 23 pts a game. Plus, Manu has been on star teams his entire career, he's never had to been the man, and I bet Tracy has played more withought Yao than with, unless they've been injured more over the same period of time than not.
    Garnett rested for large parts of a lot of springtimes, actually.

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    You are right.

    In the circus list Iverson comes before Redd.
    2007-2008 Stats -

    AI

    PPG 26.4
    RPG 3.0
    APG 7.1
    SPG 2.0
    BPG 0.2
    FG% 0.458
    FT% 0.809
    3P% 0.345
    MPG 41.8

    Redd

    PPG 22.7
    RPG 4.3
    APG 3.4
    SPG 0.9
    BPG 0.2
    FG% 0.442
    FT% 0.820
    3P% 0.362
    MPG 37.5


    Gimme AI over Redd anyday. Heck, Redd can't even get his team into the playoffs in the Leastern Conference.

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    2007-2008 Stats -

    AI

    PPG 26.4
    RPG 3.0
    APG 7.1
    SPG 2.0
    BPG 0.2
    FG% 0.458
    FT% 0.809
    3P% 0.345
    MPG 41.8

    Redd

    PPG 22.7
    RPG 4.3
    APG 3.4
    SPG 0.9
    BPG 0.2
    FG% 0.442
    FT% 0.820
    3P% 0.362
    MPG 37.5


    Gimme AI over Redd anyday. Heck, Redd can't even get his team into the playoffs in the Leastern Conference.

    I will give you Iverson.

    And I trust my eyes and knowledge better than statistics.

    The basketball player to watch in a Nuggets game is Anthony. He'd be a critical player in an excellent team.
    In fact, he was key for the US team in the Olimpics.
    Iverson would be a major drawback in a good team and could only function in a circus team.

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    There are four legitimate basketball players in this list.
    Everyone else is just in for shooting and athletics contests.
    You should just temper your posts, all players in the NBA but a bunch of athletic 7 footers are legitimate basketball players and all the players on that list are good/great basketball players.

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