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What a . this guy is definitely a hater. Just 'cause he's stuck in Denver w/the sorry ass Nuggets. Hopefully some argentinos up in Denver will turn his ass into an asado(steak)
Manuel, your article was a thing of beauty!
What a . this guy is definitely a hater. Just 'cause he's stuck in Denver w/the sorry ass Nuggets. Hopefully some argentinos up in Denver will turn his ass into an asado(steak)
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Mr. Lincicome:
I have read many of your past articles and usually am in strong agreement about with your points but not over a recent column dissing the all star selectons.
First, I want to say that firmly believe that Carmello may come back even next year in a spectacular fashion. Why, he won at the collegiate level, he is not afraid of failure and he has incredible skill = champions comeback and he has a solid coach in Karl.
However, this letter is about Ginobli.
The case for Ginobli as an Allstar is very simple:
One cannot deny that he is a proven winner at every level, a former MVP of a professional league and arguably one of the 2-3 most exciting players in the game to watch today even without the ball. He is unselfish and one of the best passers in the game.
Besides that he is a total player whose defense is outstanding and he also has that special “clutch” factor of coming up in big games, i.e. Olympics, recent game against Suns etc. You cannot say that about Webber, Stoj, or many of the players listed at least yet – let them prove they can win something or play defense!
As an expert on statistics, I guarantee if you look at this all around statistics contribution on minutes played or more importantly, his teams point differential when he is on the floor or any measure he will be near the top and above most who missed the cut. He is surely one of the key reasons that this years Spurs have one of the largest point differentials in history.
The truth is that he is always a threat to upstage anyone, especially around his size, in any game or on any stage, I don’t care if its Kobe, James, Wade you name it.
The bigger the game, the bigger the stage = the better historically. It has often been true of Ginobli, can you honestly say that about any King - please?
The coaches know this. They also know that he is simply Mr. Excitement, a winner, and a player any coach would droll having on any team in combination with any other 4 players on the floor for his all around game and guts. In addition, you give me him and let me pick 4 other currently selected WCF player and we will thrash the team you talk about with his flexibility to play the 2 and 3. Your statement about the neglected players was a joke surely beating the selected team?????
My hope is that next year Manu is back and hopefully Carmello will show maturity and earn it too.
Regards,
Peter D. Rumm, MD,
Director the Center for Public Health Readiness and Communiction
(Maddoc)
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Hey Bernie, read your manu bashing article....your a real .
-big z
Manu is a difference-maker on a team that is expected to win the championship. THat's why he was selected, and all the others weren't. The only one who one could argue should be there instead is Tony Parker. `
What a mother ing re , this guy shoul die.
I too wrote him. i argued that manu is averaging less points and like 1 less rebound due to the fact that he plays way less minutes while averaging more steals and a better fg%. and i said that when Melo can take over a game single-handedly to talk to me about being an all-star. until then he can have fun in the sophmore game while the real all-stars do the ballin
I sent him a message, but it wasn't very friendly....
duncan2k5 doesn't mess around.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr...
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Sorry if already posted...
It seems you can be very persuasive
LinkLincicome: Roster's big enough for genuine Ginobili
February 19, 2005
So, what's a skinny Italian from Argentina doing in a place like this? Having the time of his life, to hear Manu Ginobili tell it. And he can tell it in several languages.
"Just three," Ginobili said in his third accent after Spanish and Italian. "I have no room for more."
Being multilingual is, of course, a highly prized skill, whereas one tongue is trouble for most NBAers. Dunking over Amare Stoudemire might cause more immediate gasps. Or scoring 48 points on a night that rescues your team from a 17-point hole. Of such things is made a spot on the NBA Western Conference All-Star team - that, and having your own coach coaching doesn't hurt.
The Mystery of Ginobili, as I like to think of it, or "Why Is This Man an All-Star?" caused me to observe when the All-Stars were named that anyone but Ginobili deserved to be on the West team.
This innocent, if overstated, impulse was not received well in places where Ginobilimania has roots, places such as San Antonio and Buenos Aires and Bologna - the town rather than the lunch meat.
To quote one of my correspondents, "Are you a freakin' idiot?"
Getting punked by disc jockeys can fill up the e-mail quickly and redundantly, but to honest questions I give honest answers and my answer is, "Usually not until later in the evening."
Feeling duty-bound to actually meet young Ginobili, rather than to work from impressions and statistics and the distance of press row, I asked the question directly. Did he think he deserved to be on the NBA All-Star team?
"I'm not sure," he said. "But I'm doing good on the best team at the moment, so . . ."
No resentment at the question, no scowls, no bile. This is going to be harder than I thought.
Here is what I already knew about Ginobili. He is full of energy, he can shoot a bit, he is not afraid to take his Adrien Brody body to the rack, and he was most responsible for Argentina winning the Summer Olympics.
"We've been together eight years as a team," Ginobili said. "The USA had been together, what, a month?"
Gloating would have made it easier to reinforce my original opinion of Ginobili, not that pride is a misdemeanor or a character defect. I mean, if Ginobili wanted to trash talk, he could diss an entire wing of the United Nations.
Here is what I learned. Ginobili is charming and modest and happy and grateful. Once again, these are not obvious traits of the NBA sort.
"I just came from a room," Ginobili gushed. "And within 15 minutes, there is (Tracy) McGrady and Kobe (Bryant), and I'm used to Tim (Duncan). And there is K.G. (Kevin Garnett) and Yao (Ming) and me. I must say it is a very nice feeling.
"I have some dreams inside of me, and I have a chance to make them true. Yes, being here is a great gift."
Now it is getting difficult to stick with my initial impulse. I like the guy. And what's more, I believe the guy. He is so proud and happy, and he promises to enjoy the All-Star experience more than anyone else.
I remember the years with Michael Jordan, when he would just write a check for the fine that goes with missing the sideshow duties of the All-Star Weekend, go play golf, show up for the game, and disappear before his head was dry from the shower.
But this is Ginobili's first time in the main room. Last year, he was a peripheral, like Carmelo Anthony was and still is. Even Shaquille O'Neal was civil and audible in his first All-Star Game.
Ginobili takes a local question. The Nuggets made a run at Ginobili - a serious run last summer. He considered Denver, he said. He stayed with San Antonio because the money was good enough and he likes it there.
Another local question. Who is more popular in South America, Nene or Manu? Nene is, of course - the Brazilian center who may one day help the Nuggets. "Brazil is bigger," Ginobili said. "But maybe I can beat Nene because of the (Olympic) championship."
And here's the clincher. Ginobili feels a responsibility to the kids. I suppose to world peace, too, if asked. His example, being at the All-Star Game, helps kids to dream: "To see me as part of their dreams."
OK. Enough. I give in. Manu is my All-Star.
Who was it I said deserved to be here before Ginobili? Half the Sacramento Kings, for sure. Chris Webber. Mike Bibby. Tony Parker from his own team. Brad Miller. Lamar Odom. Peja Stojakovic. Elton Brand.
I will amend my list. Not Stojakovic. And I expect to hear from Belgrade before noon.
Kind of half-hearted if you ask me. This is an "I get it, Manu is a good guy" column; it is not an "I get it, Manu is a tremendous ball player" column. Rather than asking Manu, who is modest almost to a fault, the guy should have asked some of the other all-stars, just to see what they had to say.
In the end, it seems that he's convinced only that Manu is more deserving than Peja, but still not more deserving than Anthony, Webber, Bibby, Parker, Miller, Odom, or Brand.
Dear Lincicome,
Your going to f*cking die. Maybe your bud, Carmelo, can save you, biotch... Muhahaha.
wait, Mello got snubbed? But I thought he MADE the all-sophmore team......
Here is another article from him, this time supporting MANU. Haha.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...560507,00.html
Excellent find -- did you just click on Marhq's link to get it or did you search for the article that Marhq posted about 4 entries above yours in this thread?
Either way, props to you on your investigative work there, Sherlock.
All moron team forum.
I heard someone say that the Denver play-by-play guy said that this guy really doesn't even show up and watch any of the games. I wonder what he'd be saying if Manu was a Nugget.
Manu is not an allstar. He is a TNT star.
No more, no less.
Quit bull ting about Manu dude, why don't you shut the up and support your team damnit, you ing ass New Jersey fan.
We already heard you say this 1000 + times, nothing new, so just STFU or die.
This innocent, if overstated, impulse was not received well in places where Ginobilimania has roots, places such as San Antonio and Buenos Aires and Bologna - the town rather than the lunch meat.
To quote one of my correspondents, "Are you a freakin' idiot?"
Getting punked by disc jockeys can fill up the e-mail quickly and redundantly, but to honest questions I give honest answers and my answer is, "Usually not until later in the evening."
HAHAHAHA!!!!
I guess this bag got our e-mails hahahahaha.
Lebron > Carmelo
Manu -2 feet, -1 arm>Melo.
Wether or not Manu was deserving is up for debate, but what the **** does Mello have to do with this? Other than being drafted the same year as LeBron James, what has he ever done?
Last edited by FearDaFro; 02-21-2005 at 09:15 PM.
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