Oh and to be fair, tipping in the US usually does ensure that you get a decent wage for the services you do. There are times however, when you do get stiffed and it simply pisses you off. Especially when people working these jobs for the most part are college students who can't afford to have someone's bad day to translate to a ty payday.
If you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again.
This he is ignorant to American customs claim is utter bull because I've happened to have been in BA, Argentina on business once and saw the Argentinian associate of ours get his car from a restaurant valet and lay a nice tip on him. Its pretty much common sense. Now that Manu is locked up for several years we can start criticizing his faults without worrying about him bolting town.
Again I understand that people can make good money (although I'm sure it doesn't apply to the majority) but why is it the only industry where the customer is directly influencing the salary of the employees? If it's so great why not apply it to everyone, and if it sucks why not change it? Again I do not undestand why the exception.
As for the political forum debates, they're far from being debates but are more name calling so I just decided to not participate.
That's not true for everyone. I worked for tips through college and while 99% of the time I leave a great tip, if I get really ty service and at ude at a restaurant and I can see they are just screwing off, I won't stiff them, I will leave them a nickel or a penny or something. I'll leave them something so they'll know I didn't just forget.
That' the flipside...people that have worked for tips can tell if someone is really busy or just ty at their job.
So you think that liberalism is that better?Uh, ok communism is fantastic.
Pay everyone the same amount of money.
Ive been served alright.
Im soooooo scared.
Socialism, communism, same ideals.
Everyone should get the same, top to bottom, if your rich sahem on you, same ideals.
Do you know that in Brazil, 10% of the wealthiest earns 50% the ressources?
Do you know that in your country, while you are spending millions and millions of dollars for war in Iraq, the poorest peaple can't be cured without payng a fortune?
Anyway, you should stick to basketball comments because you don't seem to know much about politics and economics.
Just when I'm ready to start being nice to Tpark......
No the majority make good money for the type of job it is. Just depends on the restaurant really.
Put it this way Slomo...a good waiter will make good money at a good restaurant. A bad one won't.
You know, I don't really know the answer to that Slomo...I just know that waiting tables is probably the best job you can have while in college.but why is it the only industry where the customer is directly influencing the salary of the employees? If it's so great why not apply it to everyone, and if it sucks why not change it? Again I do not undestand why the exception.
The only reason I can think of for the minimum wage being lower is that you make a heck of a lot of cash money daily in tips and only have to pay taxes on like 10% of what you make. No one but you really knows how much you are making in tips.
But Waiters make well over the minimum wage.
And as for why it's different than other jobs...well it's just a niche type job. It fits the needs of a certain segment of the population. It's got a lot of flexibility with the hours. As for the why the customer has so much impact in what you make...well it's a customer service job. To tell you the truth, most customer service jobs probably should be more directly reliant on pleasing the customer. It just depends on what the place of business wants to do though. The government really has no say in it except to gurantee a minimum salary.
And some restaurants do pay an hourly wage above minimum wage, plus tips.
Some place automatically include the tip...
It's different at every restaurant really.
LMAO I never thought about how hard it could be to explain it to someone, but I guess I can see why it is confusing. But it really is a good job for a college student.
LOL ok. You are right. But I personally would like to hear some of your insight on what it is like to have lived in a socialist or communist country. And I promise not to call you names if you come in thereAs for the political forum debates, they're far from being debates but are more name calling so I just decided to not participate.
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I suppose everything is subjective, and ultimately, and individual's choice as to whether or not to do a certain type of job. I was a waiter while in college. Years ago, I used to work at Morton's of Chicago, and I made over $75k per year. I have a MBA now, and I still don't pull that much as an accountant (but I don't work weekends, nights, or holidays anymore!
Had to go out for some breakfast. And, Yes I did leave a tip for Monique, my waitress.
Then I had difficulty getting back on-line because the rain is disrupting the wireless LAN in the Hotel (and the lobby is really in danger of being flooded)
Well I'm not afraid of being called named if it's deserved, so who knows maybe I'll look at this political forum more.LOL ok. You are right. But I personally would like to hear some of your insight on what it is like to have lived in a socialist or communist country. And I promise not to call you names if you come in there
Are you in Vegas? What hotel?
wow, isnt it amazing how much a tip can accomplish?
You pay taxes on tips? Wow I never knew that, I never waited tables though, but I can see where slomo is coming from. I dont think he is advocating communism TPark, he just didnt understand how tipping works here.
Actually, you DO pay taxes on tips.
That guy is a moron for sending Manu a message telling him that he didn't tip him...
And this guy is a moron for not realizing that was ME
And this guy is a moron for not realizing that was ME
And this guy is ....still....a moron.
And this guy is a moron for not realizing that was ME
No, you may go now. And here is your tip: I tip for good service, so you get jack s###. Stop begging
Last edited by SpursChamps0399; 02-11-2005 at 05:47 PM. Reason: Thought of more trash talk
Last year, I valleted the Tux and Tennis event. I was fortunate to bring your car up and meet you for a moment. However, it is customary to tip the vallet and you didn't. Why?
Thanks,
Manuel
Yes, Imperial Palace.
He actually had a rep with the vallets because he never tips and we did several events he attended. It's weird, but he has to know by this time.
Anyhow, one day somene is going to remember the non tip and his car is going to be parked under 200 pigeons with the top down. And thatmy friend, is not going to be pretty!
After reading through that forum, I understand why you are such a phobe.
It's because you are in love with Manu.
Am I really? Just because he's my favorite athlete, I'm a phobe?
Not to criticize the french or anything (as some of my best friends are french)...
but I don't understand how they can hate American foreign policy so much seeing how it was that policy that saved them from the Germans not once but twice!!!!!
Such ungratefulness!!!!!!!!!!!!
It must be that they are being swayed by the growing muslim population within France. Not that all muslims are bad but they tend to see 'America' as the "Great Satan".
Anyways I know these comments belong in the political forum....
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